Template talk:Themes

Musical themes that don't qualify for articles yet

Per this proposal, musical themes must appear in at least 8 pieces of Super Mario-related media, not counting appearances of the theme in retro services, to have an article created about them.

Appearances that do not count towards the article creation threshold should still be noted that within the recurring theme's article, such as appearances in retro services and non-Super Mario-related media.

Here are examples of what would and would not count towards the “8 pieces of media” threshold:

Counts towards the threshold:

• Any form of a theme in the original game.
• Any form of a theme in a remake of the original game.
• Any form of a theme in another game.
• Any form of a theme in a remake of another game.
• Any form of a theme in any other type of Super Mario-related piece of media.

Doesn't count towards the threshold:

• Any form of a theme in a retro service.
• Any form of a theme in a piece of non-Super Mario-related media.

All themes in green qualify for articles.

HELP: Easy places to look for reuses and arrangements: Crossover game series (Super Smash Bros.; Mario & Sonic...); Donkey Konga series; Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix; remakes, reissues and ports; established game series (Super Mario; Mario Kart...); Albums; TV/film adaptations.

Super Mario Bros. series

VS. Super Mario Bros.

• "Business-Use Mario Name Entry" (NB: On its own, not counting Ground Theme from Super Mario Bros.)

1. VS. Super Mario Bros. / Super Mario World (album) / Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS / Super Mario Maker 2

2. Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen! / Super Mario Brothers: Peach-hime Kyuushutsu Daisakusen! Original Soundtrack

3. Super Mario Maker 2

Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic / Super Mario Bros. 2

• "Player Select"

1. Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

2. Super Mario Bros. 2

3. The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!

4. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

5. Super Mario Advance

6. Super Mario 3D World / Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

7. Super Mario Maker 2

(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. Also, under the proposal, this should be in the template. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))

• "Underground Theme"

1. Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

2. Super Mario Bros. 2

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance

5. Super Mario Run

6. Super Mario Maker 2

(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. This fits the template, but only just BARELY.--SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))

• "Boss Theme"

1. Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic

2. Super Mario Bros. 2

3. The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!

4. Super Mario All-Stars

5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Could only find in Ultimate via List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate in-game music by series (A–M).)

6. Super Mario Advance

7. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!

8. Super Mario Maker 2

(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. Also, this should be in the template. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))

• "Slot Machine"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "Slot Winner"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "Lose a Life (Super Mario Bros. 2)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "Game Over (Super Mario Bros. 2)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "World Clear (Super Mario Bros. 2)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "Wart Battle"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

• "Ending (Super Mario Bros. 2)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 2

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance

Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Fortress"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Paper Mario

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. WarioWare: D.I.Y. Showcase

5. Super Mario Maker

6. Super Mario Maker 2

7. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

• "Map 2 World

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Fantasic World of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

4. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

5. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

6. Super Mario Maker 2

• "Dark Land"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Mario Party

4. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

5. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

6. Mario Kart DS

7. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

8. Mario Party Superstars

• "Demon King Koopa"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Fantasic World of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

5. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

6. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

7. Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)

• "Map 4 World"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Map 5 World"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Map 6 World"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Map 7 World"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Underwater Theme (Super Mario Bros. 3)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Warp Zone Theme"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

4. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Warp Whistle Theme"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Victory Fanfare"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Restored Fanfare"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Clear Fanfare"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Lose a Life (Super Mario Bros. 3)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Game Over (Super Mario Bros. 3)"

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

3. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

• "Ending (Super Mario Bros. 3)" (NB: On its own, not counting Ending from Super Mario Bros.)

1. Super Mario Bros. 3

2. The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Super Mario All-Stars / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition

Super Mario Land

• "Underground Theme / Easton Kingdom"

1. Super Mario Land / Game Boy Graffiti

2. Super Mario Land (album)

3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl

4. Super Mario Run

Super Mario World

• "Fortress Boss (Super Mario World)"

1. Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS / Super Mario Maker 2

2. Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2

3. New Super Mario Bros. 2

4. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

• "The Evil King Koopa, Bowser" (NB: On its own, not counting the "Castle" theme from Super Mario World)

1. Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario Maker 2

2. Super Mario Kart / Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

4. Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2

5. Itadaki Street DS

6. Fortune Street

7. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "P Switch (Super Mario World theme)"

1. Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World / Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS / Super Mario Maker 2 / WarioWare: Get It Together!

2. Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2

3. Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games

• "Star World"

1. Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World

2. Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)

3. Mario is Missing! (SNES)

4. Mario's Time Machine (MS-DOS)

5. Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2

6. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

7. Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge

Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins

• "Star Maze"

1. Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins

2. Paper Mario: Sticker Star

Super Mario 64

• "Dire, Dire Docks"

1. Super Mario 64 / Super Mario 64 Original Soundtrack / Super Mario 64 DS

2. Super Mario Run

3. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

• "Merry-Go-Round"

1. Super Mario 64 / Super Mario 64 Original Soundtrack / Super Mario 64 DS / Minecraft

2. The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

3. New Super Mario Bros.

4. Mario Strikers Charged

5. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

New Super Mario Bros.

• "Castle Theme"

1. New Super Mario Bros.

2. Itadaki Street DS

3. Mario Super Sluggers

4. Fortune Street

5. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

• "P Switch (New Super Mario Bros. theme)"

1. New Super Mario Bros.

2. New Super Mario Bros. Wii / New Super Mario Bros. 2 / New Super Mario Bros. U / New Super Luigi U / New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U / Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate / New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe / Super Mario Maker 2

Super Mario Galaxy

• "Luma"

1. Super Mario Galaxy

2. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

3. Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge

4. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

• "Waltz of the Boos"

1. Super Mario Galaxy

2. Super Mario 3D Land

3. Paper Mario: Sticker Star

4. Super Nintendo World

• "Enter Bowser Jr.!"

1. Super Mario Galaxy / Super Mario Galaxy 2

2. Mario Party 9

3. Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

New Super Mario Bros. Wii

• "Title Theme"

1. New Super Mario Bros. Wii

2. New Super Mario Bros. 2

3. Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition

4. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

• "Tower"

1. New Super Mario Bros. Wii

2. Mario Party 9

3. New Super Mario Bros. 2

4. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

Super Mario Maker

• "Title Theme"

1. Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker 2

2. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

3. Super Nintendo World

• "Airship" (SMB style)

1. Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker 2

2. Super Mario Odyssey

3. Super Mario Bros. Wonder

Mario Kart series

Super Mario Kart

• "Donut Plains"

1. Super Mario Kart / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

3. Mario Kart DS

4. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Choco Island"

1. Super Mario Kart

2. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

3. Mario Kart DS / Mario Kart Tour

• "Koopa Beach"

1. Super Mario Kart / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

3. Mario Kart DS

• "Vanilla Lake"

1. Super Mario Kart / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

• "Battle Course"

1. Super Mario Kart

2. Mario Kart Wii

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Tour

Mario Kart 64

• "Moo Moo Farm / Yoshi Valley"

1. Mario Kart 64 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Koopa Troopa Beach" (arrangement of Choco Island?)

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Kalimari Desert"

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Toad's Turnpike"

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Frappe Snowland / Sherbet Land"

1. Mario Kart 64 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart Wii

• "Choco Mountain / Block Fort / Double Deck"

1. Mario Kart 64 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Bowser's Castle"

1. Mario Kart 64 / Mario Kart Wii

• "DK's Jungle Parkway"

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart Wii

• "Banshee Boardwalk"

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart DS

• "Big Donut / Skyscraper"

1. Mario Kart 64

2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7

Mario Kart: Super Circuit

• "Peach Circuit / Mario Circuit / Luigi Circuit" (NB: Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe uses an earlier version of this theme)

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart Tour

• "Shy Guy Beach / Cheep-Cheep Island"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

• "Riverside Park"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Bowser Castle" (NB: On its own, not counting Koopa's Theme from Super Mario 64)

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart Wii

4. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Boo Lake / Broken Pier" (NB: On its own, not counting Obake Yashiki BGM from Super Mario World)

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Cheese Land"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sky Garden"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart Tour

4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sunset Wilds"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Snow Land"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

3. Mario Kart Tour

• "Ribbon Road"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Yoshi Desert"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Tour

• "Lakeside Park"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Tour

• "Rainbow Road"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)

2. Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

• "Battle Course"

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit

2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7

• "Peach Circuit / Mario Circuit / Luigi Circuit" (Early)

1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit (Early)

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

• "Peach Beach / Daisy Cruiser"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

2. Nintendo Sound Selection Vol.3: B-Side Music

3. Mario Kart Wii

4. Mario Kart 7

5. Mario Kart Tour

6. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Baby Park / Tilt-a-Kart" (NB: On its own, not counting Ground Theme from Super Mario Bros.)

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Dry Dry Desert"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Mushroom Bridge / Mushroom City"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart DS

3. Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games

• "Waluigi Stadium / Wario Colosseum"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sherbet Land"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!!

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "DK Mountain"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 7

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Bowser's Castle / Luigi's Mansion"

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Nintendogs

2. Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix

3. Mario Kart 7

• "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)

1. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! / Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Mario Kart Arcade GP

• "Main Menu"

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "Mario Cup" (Mario Highway / Mario Beach)

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "DK Cup" (DK Jungle / Bananan Ruins)

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "Pac-Man Cup" (Pac Mountain / Pac Labyrinth)

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "Bowser Cup" (Bowser's Castle / Castle Wall)

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "Rainbow Cup" (Rainbow Coaster / Rainbow Downhill)

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

• "Challenge Mode"

1. Mario Kart Arcade GP

2. Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

Mario Kart DS

• "Figure-8 Circuit / Mario Circuit"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

3. Mario Kart Tour

4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Yoshi Falls"

1. Mario Kart DS / Mario Kart Wii

• "Cheep Cheep Beach"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

3. Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U)

• "Luigi's Mansion"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Desert Hills"

1. Mario Kart DS / Mario Kart Wii

• "Delfino Square"

1. Mario Kart DS / Mario Kart Wii

• "Shroom Ridge"

1. Mario Kart DS / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "DK Pass"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Tick-Tock Clock"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Airship Fortress"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Wario Stadium"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Peach Gardens"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

3. Nintendogs + Cats

4. Mario Golf: World Tour

5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Super Smash Bros. for 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

• "Nintendo DS / Twilight House / Palm Shore / Tart Top"

1. Mario Kart DS

2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7

Mario Kart Wii

• "Moo Moo Meadows"

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Wii)

3. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Mushroom Gorge"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7 / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 7

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "DK Summit"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Wario's Gold Mine"

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Wii) / Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games

3. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Daisy Circuit"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Koopa Cape" (all versions)

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 7

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Maple Treeway"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 7

3. Paper Mario: The Origami King

4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Grumble Volcano"

1. Mario Kart Wii

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Dry Dry Ruins"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour (presumably)

• "Moonview Highway"

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'

• "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart)

1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'

Mario Kart 7

• "Toad Circuit / Mario Circuit"

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Daisy Hills"

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Cheep Cheep Lagoon" (NB: On its own, not counting Peach Beach / Daisy Cruiser from Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Shy Guy Bazaar"

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Music Park"

1. Mario Kart 7

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Rock Rock Mountain"

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Piranha Plant Slide" (NB: On its own, not counting Ground Theme or Underground Theme from Super Mario Bros.)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Wario Shipyard" (NB: On its own, not counting Main Theme from Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 or Main Theme from WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

• "Neo Bowser City" (NB: On its own, not counting Toad's Turnpike from Mario Kart 64 or Luigi Circuit / Mario Circuit from Mario Kart Wii)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

3. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "DK Jungle" (NB: On its own, not counting DK Island Swing from Donkey Kong Country)

1. Mario Kart 7

2. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Rosalina's Ice World"

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Bowser's Castle" (NB: On its own, not counting Bowser's Castle from Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour (presumably)

• "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)

1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour

2. Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Mario Kart 8

• "Mario Kart Stadium"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Water Park"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sweet Sweet Canyon"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Thwomp Ruins"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Mario Circuit"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Toad Harbor"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Twisted Mansion"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Shy Guy Falls"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sunshine Airport"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Dolphin Shoals"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Electrodrome"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Mount Wario"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Cloudtop Cruise"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Bone-Dry Dunes"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Bowser's Castle"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Rainbow Road"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Dragon Driftway"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Ice Ice Outpost"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Wild Woods"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

• "Super Bell Subway"

1. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Original Soundtrack / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Mario Kart Tour + Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "New York Minute"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Tokyo Blur"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Paris Promenade"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "London Loop"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Vancouver Velocity"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Los Angeles Laps"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Merry Mountain"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Berlin Byways"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Ninja Hideaway"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sydney Sprint"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Singapore Speedway"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Amsterdam Drift"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Bangkok Rush"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Sky-High Sundae"

1. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

2. Mario Kart Tour

• "Piranha Plant Cove"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Yoshi's Island"

1. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

2. Mario Kart Tour

• "Athens Dash"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Rome Avanti"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

• "Squeaky Clean Sprint"

1. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

2. Mario Kart Tour

• "Madrid Drive"

1. Mario Kart Tour

2. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Role-playing games

Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars

• "Hello, Happy Kingdom"

1. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars / Super Mario RPG Original Sound Version / Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)

2. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3

3. Itadaki Street DS

4. Fortune Street

5. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

6. Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)

Mario Discovery series

Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)

• "Mexico City, Athens / Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro" (NB: On its own, not counting the "Super Star" theme from Super Mario Bros. or the Star World theme from Super Mario World)

1. Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)

2. Mario is Missing! (SNES)

3. Mario's Time Machine (MS-DOS)

Mario is Missing! (NES)

• "Title Theme"

1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)

• "World Map"

1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)

• "Boss Battle"

1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)

• "Rome, Italy / Montreal, Canada"

1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)

Donkey Kong series

Donkey Kong

• "Game Kaishi"

1. Donkey Kong

2. Donkey Kong (Game Boy)

3. Mario Tennis

4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong

5. Mario Power Tennis

6. Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix

7. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U

9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!

10. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

11. The Super Mario Bros. Movie

12. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)

Donkey Kong Jr.

• "Stage 1"

1. Donkey Kong Jr.

2. Donkey Kong Country Returns

3. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

4. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

• "Ending"

1. Donkey Kong Jr.

2. Donkey Kong Country Returns

3. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

4. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Donkey Kong Country

• "Simian Segue"

1. Donkey Kong Country / Donkey Kong Country (Game Boy Color)

2. Super Donkey Kong Game Music CD Jungle Fantasy

3. Donkey Kong Country Returns

4. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

5. Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (Donkey Kong Adventure)

6. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

• "Bonus Room Blitz"

1. Donkey Kong Country / Donkey Kong Land / Donkey Kong Country (Game Boy Color)

2. Donkey Kong Country Returns

3. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

4. Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge

5. Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle (Donkey Kong Adventure)

6. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest

• "Stickerbush Symphony"

1. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest / Donkey Kong Land 2 / Donkey Kong Country 2 (Game Boy Advance)

2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl

3. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

Wrecking Crew series

Wrecking Crew

• "Golden Hammer Theme"

1.

Appear in: Wrecking Crew / Wrecking Crew '98 / Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Yoshi's Island series

Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

• "Story Music Box"

1. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island / Template:Media link

2. Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3

3. Yoshi Touch & Go

4. Yoshi's Island DS

5. Yoshi's New Island

6. Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

7. Super Nintendo World

• "Yoshi's Island" (title theme)

1. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island / Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3

2. Tetris Attack

3. Paper Mario

4. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

5. Itadaki Street DS

6. Fortune Street

Wario Land series

Wario World

• "Courtyard"

1. Wario World

2. Mario Power Tennis / New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis

• "Greenhorn Forest"

1. Wario World

2. Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix

Wario Land: Shake It!

• "Stonecarving City"

1. Wario Land: Shake It!

2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl

3. Mario Party 10

WarioWare series

WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!

• Unnamed theme used in cutscenes and in Dr. Crygor (theme)

1. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!

2. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!

3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (WarioWare, Inc. Medley)

4. WarioWare: D.I.Y. (as Dr. Crygor's theme)

5. WarioWare: D.I.Y. Showcase (as Dr. Crygor's theme)

6. WarioWare: Get It Together! (in the WarioWare microgame)

• "Pyoro"

1. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!

2. WarioWare: Twisted!

3. WarioWare: Smooth Moves

4. WarioWare Gold

5. WarioWare: Get It Together! (in the credits)

6. WarioWare: Move It!

Mario vs. Donkey Kong series

Mario vs. Donkey Kong

• "Mini Mario Stage"

1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong

2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

3. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!

4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!

5. Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move

6. Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge

7. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)

• "Donkey Kong Jungle 3"

1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong

2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

3. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)

• "Spooky House 1"

1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong

2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

3. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)

• "Bonus Game"

1. Mario vs. Donkey Kong

2. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis

3. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)

Wii Sports Resort

1. Wii Sports Resort

2. Mario Kart 7

3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit

4. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Legend of Zelda

• "Overworld Theme"

1. Super Smash Bros. (series) (which ones?)

2. Donkey Konga (series) (which ones?)

3. Tetris DS

4. Super Mario 3D World / Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

5. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

6. Tetris 99

Flipnote Studio

• "The Mario Drawing Song"

1. Flipnote Studio

2. Super Mario 3D Land

Other

• "Game Start (Donkey Kong Jr.)" / "Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565"

1. Donkey Kong Jr. / Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.

2. Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Table Top) / Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Panorama Screen)

3. Donkey Kong Jr. (Atari 2600)

4. Donkey Kong Jr. (Intellivision)

5. Donkey Kong Jr. (Coleco Adam)

6. Donkey Kong Jr. (FDS) / Donkey Kong Jr. (NES) / Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson / Donkey Kong Jr. Math / Donkey Kong Classics / Famicom Music / Nintendo FAMICOM MUSIC / Donkey Kong Jr.-e

7. Donkey Kong Jr. (BBC Micro) (unreleased)

8. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Retro Ramp-Up)

• "Le Galop infernal d'Orphée aux Enfers"

1. Donkey Kong Jr. / Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros. (presumably)

2. Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Table Top) / Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Panorama Screen)

3. Donkey Kong Jr. (Coleco Adam)

4. Super Mario Land / Game Boy Graffiti / WarioWare: Get It Together! (different from the original?)

5. Super Mario Land (album)

6. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars / Super Mario RPG Original Sound Version / Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)

7. Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)

• "Pop Goes the Weasel"

1. Donkey Kong Circus

2. Mario's Egg Catch

• "Go Go Mario!!"

1. Mario no Daibōken / Go Go Mario!! (single)

2. Mario & Zelda Big Band Live

Actual talking

Unnamed theme used in cutscenes and in Dr. Crygor (theme)

(Potentially more. Should the usages/remixes/... be counted here? Both Lost a Life & Game Over (theme) are counted with Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), so maybe. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 10:28, May 10, 2024 (EDT))

My understanding is that a different version of the same theme only counts towards the threshold if it's in a different game; multiple versions in the same game only count as one (while still being notable enough for an article). The version of this theme used in the Reality stage is itself reused as Dr. Crygor (theme), but most of the instances of that theme specifically use a melody line that's not featured in the version of the theme found elsewhere in Mega Microgame$!. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 10:37, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

I brought up Lost a Life & Game Over (theme) because they are different versions of Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), but they are counted separately. That's what I'm talking about. Different versions in the same game, not re-uses. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 11:48, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

I know. I'm saying that my understanding is that those don't count towards the threshold. They count as examples of the theme, but they do not count as additional uses for the sake of reaching the threshold for notability. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:05, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

Well, the top of the page itself says this for what counts: "Any form of a theme in the original game." SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:25, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

It says "appear in at least 8 pieces of Super Mario-related media", not "appear at least 8 times in Super Mario-related media". jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

The full section itself:

Counts towards the threshold:

Any form of a theme in the original game.

Any form of a theme in a remake of the original game.

Any form of a theme in another game.

Any form of a theme in a remake of another game.

Any form of a theme in any other type of Super Mario-related piece of media.

Doesn't count towards the threshold:

Any form of a theme in a retro service.

Any form of a theme in a piece of non-Super Mario-related media.

Hope that clears things up. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:33, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

That's not the whole section. The thing I quoted is immediately before that, the part where it says "8 pieces of media". Yes, all of these count as appearances, but if more than one of these is in the same piece of media that doesn't count as an additional piece of media. Sorry for being unclear. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:37, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

Then why does it say Any form of a theme then? Is that false? Cause if it is, it would need to be removed. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:40, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

It says "any form of a theme" counts towards the threshold of appearing in "8 pieces of media". As in, any form of a theme appearing in a piece of media counts for that piece of media. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:43, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

Ugh, only the 1st part made sense for me. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:46, May 10, 2024 (EDT)

Mario Land 2 motif in Wario Land?

Should that count?: https://twitter.com/PRINGLE2612/status/1617609014719975425. I would naively be inclined to say yes, but what do you think? --Conradd (talk) 10:24, May 11, 2024 (EDT)

It sounds similar enough that it could be intentional, but the "inverted harmony" version isn't an exact match. The 3D Land theme doesn't appear to be counted as a version of the ground theme from Super Mario Bros. 3, so I don't think a song being intentionally somewhat similar (but not quite the same) is enough. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 10:32, May 11, 2024 (EDT)

I can give an analogy. When I saw a few SMB movie trailers (2020, not the old one), the end would play a version of the SMB ground theme, but it wasn't exact. It had an ending, which the OG version didn't. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:48, May 11, 2024 (EDT)

Super Mario Land Ending & Mario Kart: Double Dash!! Rainbow Road

Probably a coincidence, but fun nonetheless.:

• First, the original from Super Mario Land:

• Then, the arrangement from the Super Mario Land album:

• And finally, the Rainbow Road theme from Mario Kart: Double Dash!!:

--Conradd (talk) 09:12, May 12, 2024 (EDT)

I can definitely hear the similarities. I can also hear similarities between the OG ending and the Ground Theme from Super Mario Bros. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:18, May 13, 2024 (EDT)

Composers subsection

Lately, I've had an idea. How do you guys feel about adding a Composers subsection in the Recurring themes template? The idea is to have dedicated articles about Mario composers, with breakdowns/analyses on how they've composed their music over the years, their habits, the music concepts they've put on the table, etc...etc... You know... what makes their music theirs and not someone else's. To gives you an idea:

--Conradd (talk) 16:34, May 13, 2024 (EDT)

Yeah, that would be fine with me. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 08:42, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Should I make a proposal? --Conradd (talk) 09:26, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

(shrug) That would be up to you, not me. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:29, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Why am I even asking? --Conradd (talk) 09:57, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

This talk page section contains an unresolved talk page proposal. Please try to help and resolve the issue by voting or leaving a comment.

Current time: Saturday, November 9, 2024, 23:40 GMT

Proposer: Conradd (talk)
Deadline: May 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Conradd (talk) per proposal.
2. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) Per proposal & @Conradd.

Oppose

1. Hewer (talk) We already have Template:People, so this is redundant and also kinda off-topic for the themes navbox. Should we include game developers in the games navbox, for instance?
2. JanMisali (talk) Per Hewer. Seems redundant and off-topic.

Comments

Would the composers be recurring as well, or is it just having composers in general be included? Because if it's the latter, then I don't see how that would fit on a nav template called Recurring themes - especially if the composer only worked on one game. Might as well introduce a separate nav template for composers, which would be redundant given that {{People}} already has a subsection for composers and sound engineers. rend (talk) (edits) 13:13, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Good point. @Conradd? Anything to answer this question? SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 13:45, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

@Hewer I'm not seeing any redundancy here. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 14:09, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Template:People has a whole section for "Composers and sound engineers". Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 14:15, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

To quote from the original post, "The idea is to have dedicated articles about Mario composers, with breakdowns/analyses on how they've composed their music over the years, their habits, the music concepts they've put on the table, etc...etc... You know... what makes their music theirs and not someone else's." SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 14:17, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Well, we already do have dedicated articles about those composers, and there already is a navigational template that has a directory of those articles. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 14:22, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

But do those articles have anything listed in that quote I put? SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 14:25, May 14, 2024 (EDT)

Well, the thing is, the ideas Conradd had in mind for these composer pages could simply be added on the already existing articles without the need to unnecessarily add all the composers on the Themes template. In fact, if the idea was to create dedicated articles for these composers, then this proposal to add them to this template is not even necessary? It's merely tangential to Conradd's idea and only seems to have been made because a nav template for composers is useful. But given this concept-turned proposal despite {{People}} already including composers, and the fact that Conradd seems to speak as if not a single composer has a dedicated article yet, speaks to me that, while their ideas for these articles are good, Conradd had done some poorly executed research - if any - on the wiki to come to this conclusion. All you had to do was look up Koji Kondo in the wiki's search engine. rend (talk) (edits) 15:08, May 14, 2024 (EDT)