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* [[Door Guy|Door Shy Guy/Door Guy]]
* [[Door Guy|Door Shy Guy/Door Guy]]
* [[Sensuikan Heihō|Submarine Shy Guy/Submarine Guy]]
* [[Sensuikan Heihō|Submarine Shy Guy/Submarine Guy]]
* [[Tree Heihō|Tree Shy Guy/Tree Guy]]
* [[Tree Guy|Tree Shy Guy/Tree Guy]]
* [[Fly Heyho]] - there already are official [[Fly Guy]]s and [[Flying Shy Guy]]s
* [[Fly Heyho]] - there already are official [[Fly Guy]]s and [[Flying Shy Guy]]s
* [[Rush Heyho]] - is rush an established prefix?
* [[Rush Heyho]] - is rush an established prefix?
* [[Zombie Debuho]] - ''Zombie Heyho'' is Zombie Guy, ''Debuho'' is Fat Guy, no way to decide which would get priority.
* [[Zombie Debuho]] - ''Zombie Heyho'' is Zombie Guy, ''Debuho'' is Fat Guy, no way to decide which would get priority.
* [[Relay Heihō]] - name suggests ''Relay Shy Guy'' or ''Relay Guy'', but is actually a Boo Guy.
* [[Relay Heihō]] - name suggests ''Relay Shy Guy'' or ''Relay Guy'', but is actually a Boo Guy.

Revision as of 04:34, February 20, 2025

Rock Pikmin's Spirit sprite from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
I love those Pikmin

I'm PopitTart. I'm more of a casual here. My focus is on Pikipedia under the same username.

Proposal Draft

When going through the wiki, I often come across pages like Fwoosh that have infoboxes showing their first appearance in a game, and their latest appearance in... a port or remake of that game. Yes, Super Mario 3D All-Stars may literally be the latest release to feature it, but I feel like this misses the point of the inbobox entries. In my mind, it gives a quick look at the history of the subject. Bull's-Eye Blaster being introduced in Super Mario Bros. 3 and appearing in Super Mario Bros. Wonder quickly gives the jist that this is a historic subject that continues to see use today. Meanwhile, Bob-omb Buddy's appearances being Super Mario 64 and Super Mario 3D All-Stars just tells me that it was in 64, despite the extensive history that they actually have.

To remedy this, I propose that these infoboxes should distinguish when the latest appearance is in a reissue. When it is, the box will be split to have the reissue game displayed alongside the subject's most recent original appearance, in a fashion much like non-Super Mario characters list both their latest overall appearance and latest Super Mario appearance. This would have some caveats and nuances.

  1. A reissue should only be noted as such if the subject also appeared in the original game. Triangular Block does not appear in Super Mario Bros. 3, so Super Mario Advance 4 is an original appearance.
  2. Similarly, If a subject appears in new content within a reissue, then the reissue constitutes a new appearance. This would apply to Blockstepper as it appears in Bowser's Fury.
  3. If a subject only appears in a game and its own reissue, then no note is necessary. The original game does not need to be listed twice, much like subjects that are only in one game.


Proposer: PopitTart (talk)
Deadline: N/A

Support: SM64 is not a new game

  1. PopitTart (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose: The latest appearance is the latest appearance

Comments Deluxe HD (Nintendo Switch)

Properly define Brown Yoshi

A Brown Yoshi sprite from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
BrownPurpleYoshiStory.png
Yoshi's Story
A Brown Yoshi in Paper Mario.
Paper Mario
Several orange Paper Mario sprites being compared
The Yoshi in Paper Mario compared with other orange and brown subjects, before and after palette adjustment

I'm currently working on a large table for this article that would easily show what games each distinct color of Yoshi appears in, which I think has been lacking from the article currently. A large issue I've come into is what is considered a "Brown Yoshi". As may be obvious, "brown" as a color is actually just a dark shade of orange, which makes the distinction between Brown Yoshi and Orange Yoshi unclear, and I think the wiki is currently a bit too generous with what it considers brown. I would like to officially settle this matter, and clear up what may be a Brown Yoshi from what may be an Orange Yoshi in the dark.

There appear to be three titles that are relevant to this: Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story, and Paper Mario. All later games seem much less ambiguous about having only Orange Yoshi. For the most open voting scheme, this proposal uses the recently approved poll proposal system. For each of the three games, you may vote in support or opposition independently. As such, each game has distinct arguments to be made.

Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island: I would say that this Yoshi is undeniably brown ingame. There is though, the lingering fact that as far as I can find, there is no official basis to the name "Brown Yoshi". Some artwork also depicts the Yoshi as quite orange.

Yoshi's Story: For this one, I have to say the storybook sprite is quite saturated, and the unused playable "brown" Yoshi is both literally in shadow and has the same blue boots that Orange Yoshi would go on to have, as Yoshi's Story codified many of the Yoshis' standard shoe colors.

Paper Mario: The Village Leader's friend has a color very similar to Miss. T, who I think is agreeably rather orange. It only looks brown because of the game's dark color palette, and if you edit the game's sprites to bring the dull grey "white" to actual white, the Yoshi becomes undeniably orange.

Proposer: PopitTart (talk)

The Yoshi in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island is Orange

Deadline: N/A

Support


Oppose
  1. PopitTart (talk) Per Proposal

The Yoshi in Yoshi's Story is Orange

Deadline: N/A

Support
  1. PopitTart (talk) Per Proposal
Oppose


The Yoshi in Paper Mario is Orange

Deadline: N/A

Support
  1. PopitTart (talk) Per proposal.
Oppose


Dark Orange Comments

Navbox splitting

Nintendo Entertainment System games
Super Mario franchise Donkey Kong (1986) • Mario Bros. (1986) • Pinball (1985) • Golf (1986) • Wrecking Crew (1985) • Super Mario Bros. (1985) • Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988) • Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) • Dr. Mario (1990) • NES Open Tournament Golf (1991) • Mario is Missing! (1993) • Mario's Time Machine (1994)
Donkey Kong franchise Donkey Kong (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. Math (1986) • Donkey Kong 3 (1986) • Donkey Kong Classics (1988)
Yoshi franchise Yoshi (1992) • Yoshi's Cookie (1993)
Wario franchise Wario's Woods (1994)
Miscellaneous Nintendo World Championships 1990 (1990) • Nintendo Campus Challenge (1991)
Family Computer games
Super Mario franchise Donkey Kong (1983) • Mario Bros. (1983) • Pinball (1984) • Golf (1984) • Family BASIC (1984) • Family BASIC V3 (1985) • Wrecking Crew (1985) • Super Mario Bros. (1985) • Super Mario Bros. 2‡ (1986) • Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) • Dr. Mario (1990) • NES Open Tournament Golf (1991) • Super Mario USA (1992)
Donkey Kong franchise Donkey Kong (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. Math (1983) • Donkey Kong 3 (1984)
Yoshi franchise Yoshi (1991) • Yoshi's Cookie (1992)
Wario franchise Wario's Woods (1994)
Family Computer Disk System Golf (1986) • Super Mario Bros. (1986) • Super Mario Bros. 2‡ (1986) • I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater‡ (1986) • All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.‡ (1986) • Golf: Japan Course‡ (1987) • Golf: U.S. Course‡ (1987) • Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic‡ (1987) • Famicom Grand Prix: F1 Race‡ (1987) • Donkey Kong^ (1988) • Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally‡ (1988) • Donkey Kong Jr.^ (1988) • Mario Bros. Returns^ (1988) • Wrecking Crew^ (1989) • Pinball^ (1989)
‡ Disk System only
^ Disk Writer only


Super Mario Bros. / Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels / Super Mario Bros. Deluxe
Playable characters Mario • Luigi
Forms Regular Mario • Super Mario • Fiery Mario • Invincible Mario
Non-playable characters Princess Toadstool • Mushroom retainers • Mushroom King • Miyukib • Takaakib • Noritakeb • KYON²b • Takeshib • Matchanb • Hidechanb • Worlds A-C humanb • Booc • Yoshic
Enemies Bloober • Bullet Bill • Buzzy Beetle • Cheep-cheep • Enemy cloned • Hammer Brother • Koopa Paratroopa • Koopa Troopa • Lakitu • Little Goomba • OkaPb • Pakkun OkaPb • Piranha plant • Podoboo • Spiny • Spiny's egg
Obstacles Current • Fire-Bar • Koopa's fire • Lava • Pit • Spike Trapc • Turtle Cannon
Bosses Fake Bowser • Bowser • Bowser's Brothera
Items and power-ups 1 up mushroom • Buzzy shell • Coin • Fire Flower • Fireball • Koopa shell • Hiranyab • Magic Mushroom • Poisonous Mushrooma • Red Coinc • Starman • Yoshi Eggc
Objects ? block • 3-2-1 Blockc • Ax • Balance Lift • Beanstalk • Brick • Coral • Doora • Dotted-Line Blockc • Face Blockc • Flagpole • Fireworks • Flimsy Lift • Horsehair plant • Island • Jumping board • Lift • Mentama Markb • Pipe • POW Blockd • Small cloud • Stairblock • Super Mushroom • Super Springa • Water • Winda
Locations Worlds in Super Mario Bros. World 1 • World 2 • World 3 • World 4 • World 5 • World 6 • World 7 • World 8
Worlds in The Lost Levels World 1 • World 2 • World 3 • World 4 • World 5 • World 6 • World 7 • World 8 • World 9 • World A • World B • World C • World D
Other Mushroom Kingdom • Bowser's Castle
Moves Crouch • Dash • Jump • Kick • Stomp • Swim
Gameplay elements Coin Heaven • Extra life • Game Over • Hard Mode • Minus World • Point • Sub-area • Time Limit • Warp Zone
Music compositions "Ground BGM" • "Underground BGM" • "Underwater BGM" • "Castle BGM" • "Invincibility BGM"
Rereleases and remakes All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros. • BS Super Mario Collection • Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. • Super Mario All-Stars (+ Super Mario World · Limited Edition) • Super Mario Bros. Special • VS. Super Mario Bros.
Further info Gallery (The Lost Levels · Deluxe) • Glitches (The Lost Levels) • How to win at Super Mario Bros. • Media • Pre-release and unused content • References in later media • Staff (Deluxe) • Super Mario Bros. 25th Anniversary • Super Mario Bros. 30th Anniversary • Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary • Super Mario Bros.: Mario Syndrome • Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen! • Super Mario World
a Introduced in Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
b Exclusive to All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.
c Exclusive to Super Mario Bros. Deluxe
d Exclusive to Super Mario Bros. 35
Super Mario Bros. 35
Playable characters Mario • Luigi
Forms Regular Mario • Super Mario • Fire Mario • Invincible Mario
Enemies Bloober • Bullet Bill • Buzzy Beetle • Cheep-cheep • Enemy clone • Hammer Bro • Koopa Paratroopa • Koopa Troopa • Lakitu • Goomba • Piranha plant • Lava Bubble • Spiny • Spiny Egg
Obstacles Current • Fire Bar • Bowser's Flame • Lava • Pit • Bill Blaster
Bosses Fake Bowser • Bowser
Items and power-ups 1-Up Mushroom • Buzzy Shell • Coin • Fire Flower • Fireball • Koopa Shell • Super Mushroom • Super Star
Objects ? Block • Axe • Scale Lift • Vine • Brick Block • Coral • Goal Pole • Fireworks • Flimsy Lift • Horsehair plant • Island • Trampoline • Lift • Warp Pipe • POW Block • Cloud Block • Hard Block • Mushroom Platform • Water
Locations Worlds World 1 • World 2 • World 3 • World 4 • World 5 • World 6 • World 7 • World 8
Other Mushroom Kingdom • Bowser's Castle
Moves Crouch • Dash • Jump • Kick • Stomp • Swim
Gameplay elements Coin Heaven • Sub-area • Time Limit • Warp Zone
Music compositions "Ground BGM" • "Underground BGM" • "Underwater BGM" • "Castle BGM" • "Invincibility BGM"


Super Mario 3D World
Playable characters Mario • Luigi • Peach • Toad • Rosalina • Captain Toad • Blue Toadb • Green Toadb • Yellow Toadb
Forms Small Mario • Mario (form) • Cat Mario • Double Mario • Tanooki Mario • Fire Mario • Boomerang Mario • Mega Mario • Invincible Mario • White Tanooki Mario • Lucky Cat Mario • White Cat Mariob
Non-playable characters Sprixie Princesses • Sprixies • Rabbits • Mega Rabbit • Toads • Plessie • Lumas • Ghost Miisa
Enemies Ant Trooper • Banzai Bill • Biddybud • Big Ant Trooper • Big Boo • Big Galoomba • Blockstepper • Blooper • Blurker • Bob-omb • Boo • Boomerang Bro • Brolder • Bullet Bill • Bully • Cat Banzai Bill • Cat Bullet Bill • Cat Goomba • Chargin' Chuck • Charvaargh • Cheep Cheep • Coin Coffer • Conkdor • Fighter Flyc • Fire Bro • Fire Piranha Plant • Fireballc • Fizzlit • Flopter • Freeziec • Fuzzler • Fuzzy • Galoomba • Goomba • Goomba Tower • Grumblump • Hammer Bro • Hop-Chop • Horned Ant Trooper • Ka-thunk • Innertube Goomba • Lava Bubble • Madpole • Magikoopa • Mega Piranha Plant • Mini Goomba • Octoomba • Para-Biddybud • Parabones • Peepa • Piranha Creeper • Piranha Plant • Porcupuffer • Rammerhead • Ring Burner • Shellcreeperc • Sidestepperc • Skating Goomba • Skipsqueak • Small Rammerhead • Snow Pokey • Spike • Spiny • Spiny Skipsqueak • Splorch • Splounder • Stingby • Thwomp • Ty-foo • Unshelled Koopa • Walleye
Obstacles Baddie Box • Bill Blaster • Cannon • Dark • Fire Bar • Fuzzy Horde • Lava • Poison • Poison fog • Quicksand • Spike ball • Spike Block • Spike Trap • Spiked roller • Volcanic debris
Bosses Bowser • Boom Boom • Pom Pom • Hisstocrat • Boss Brolder • King Ka-thunk • Prince Bully • Motley Bossblob • Meowser
Items and power-ups + Clock • 1-Up Mushroom • Baseball • Blue Coin • Bomb • Boomerang Flower • Cannon Box • Coin • Coin Box • Coin pile • Crown • Double Cherry • Fire Flower • Gold Shell • Goomba Mask • Green Shell • Green Star Coin • Green Star • Hidden Coin • Ice Skate • Invincibility Bellb • Invincibility Leaf • Key Coin • Light Box • Lucky Bell • Mega Mushroom • Potted Piranha Plant • Propeller Box • Red Coin • Snowball • Springboard • Stamp • Super Bell • Super Leaf • Super Mushroom • Super Star
Objects ? Block • Arrow platform • Arrow Sign • Assist Block • Beep Block • Big Block • Binoculars • Bowser Board • Bowser Statue • Brick Block • Bubble • Cactus • Cat Wheel • Chain-Link • Character Switch • Checkpoint Flag • Clear Pipe • Clear Pipe Cannon • Cloud Cannon • Cloud Lift • Cog • Color Panel • Conveyor Belt • Crab • Crate • Crystal Block • Dash Panel • Donut Block • Empty Block • Floating couch • Floorc • Flower • Fluff • Gift Box • Goal Pole • Goal Pole (flying) • Gold Ring • Gong • Green Star Ring • Hexagon • Hidden Block • Illusion • Jump Panel • Kick Bomb • Lift • Long ? Block • Multi-Vator • Mushroom Trampoline • Mystery Box • P Panel • P Switch • Pipe • Pixel Luigi • Propeller Platforma • Red POW Block • Red Ring • Red-Blue Panel • Rising pillar • Rock Block • Rocket • Rotating Panel • Roulette Block • Searchlight • Seesaw • Sliding door • Slot Block • Small bird • Swing • Switch Block • Switch Panel • Switchboard • Super POW Block • Tank • Torch • Touchstone • Trample Switch • Trapeze • Tree • Turning Floor • Warp Box • Warp Box (With Key) • Warp Door • World Warp Pipe • Zipline lift
Locations Normal worlds World 1 • World 2 • World 3 • World 4 • World 5 • World 6 • World Castle • World Bowser
Special worlds World Star • World Mushroom • World Flower • World Crown
Other Sprixie Kingdom • Mushroom Kingdom • Sprixie Houses • Toad Houses • Mystery Houses • Lucky Houses
Moves Crawl • Crouch • Crouch Jump • Dash • Diveb • Floating Jump • Ground Pound • Ground Pound Jumpb • Jump • Long Jump • Roll • Scuttle • Shell dash • Side Somersault • Slide • Spin • Spin Jump • Swim • Synchro Ground-Pound • Wall Jump
Gameplay elements amiibob • Captain Toad's Adventures • Completion • Enemy Battles • Luigi Bros. • List of Pixel Luigi sightings • List of stamps • Miiversea • Points • Snapshot Modeb • Toad Brigadeb
Musical compositions "Super Bell Hill" • "Mario's Colour Panel" • "Super Block Land"
Further info Gallery (SM3DW+BF) • Glitches (SM3DW+BF) • Media (SM3DW+BF) • Original soundtrack • Playable characters' statistics (SM3DW+BF) • Pre-release and unused content • Staff (SM3DW+BF)
a Exclusive to the Wii U version
b Exclusive to the Nintendo Switch version
c Exclusive to Luigi Bros.
Related Play Nintendo activities
Can’t-miss games • What does THAT thing do? • Cute-throat enemies • Power-up trivia quiz! • Power-up personality quiz! • Colorful cat-tastrophe!
Bowser's Fury
Playable characters Mario • Bowser Jr.
Forms Small Mario • Mario (form) • Cat Mario • Tanooki Mario • Fire Mario • Boomerang Mario • Invincible Mario • Lucky Cat Mario • White Cat Mario • Giga Cat Mario
Non-playable characters Rabbits • Mega Rabbit • Toads • Plessie • Lumas • Toadette • Kittens • Neko Parent
Enemies Ant Trooper • Biddybud • Big Ant Trooper • Big Boo • Big Galoomba • Blockstepper • Blooper • Blurker • Bob-omb • Boo • Boomerang Bro • Brolder • Bullet Bill • Bully • Cat Banzai Bill • Cat Bullet Bill • Cat Goomba • Chargin' Chuck • Charvaargh • Cheep Cheep • Coin Coffer • Conkdor • Disaster Neko • Fire Bro • Fire Piranha Plant • Fizzlit • Flopter • Fury Shadow • Fuzzler • Fuzzy • Galoomba • Grumblump • Hammer Bro • Hop-Chop • Horned Ant Trooper • Ka-thunk • Innertube Goomba • Lava Bubble • Magikoopa • Mega Piranha Plant • Para-Biddybud • Parabones • Peepa • Piranha Creeper • Piranha Plant • Rammerhead • Ring Burner • Skating Goomba • Skipsqueak • Small Rammerhead • Snow Pokey • Spike • Spiny • Spiny Skipsqueak • Splorch • Splounder • Stingby • Thwomp • Ty-foo • Unshelled Koopa
Obstacles Baddie Box • Bill Blaster • Cannon • Dark • Fire Bar • Fury Sun • Lava • Spike ball • Spike Block • Spike Trap • Spiked roller
Bosses Fury Bowser • Giant Bowser
Items and power-ups 1-Up Mushroom • Baseball • Blue Coin • Bomb • Boomerang Flower • Cat Shine • Cat Shine Shard • Coin • Coin pile • Fire Flower • Giga Bell • Green Shell • Hidden Coin • Ice Skate • Invincibility Bell • Invincibility Leaf • Key • Lucky Bell • Plessie Medal • Potted Piranha Plant • Propeller Box • Red Coin • Snowball • Springboard • Super Bell • Super Leaf • Super Mushroom • Super Star
Objects ? Block • Arrow platform • Arrow Sign • Brick Block • Cage • Cat Wheel • Chain-Link • Checkpoint Flag • Clear Pipe • Clear Pipe Cannon • Cloud Cannon • Cloud Lift • Cog • Color Panel • Conveyor Belt • Crab • Crate • Crystal Block • Dash Panel • Donut Block • Empty Block • Falling spike • Fling Pole • Flower • Fluff • Fury Block • Gift Box • Gong • Graffiti • Green Star Ring • Ground-Pound Switch • Hexagon • Hidden Block • Illusion • Jump Panel • Kick Bomb • Lift • Lighthouse • Long ? Block • Multi-Vator • Mushroom Trampoline • Mystery Box • P Switch • Pipe • Red POW Block • Red Ring • Red-Blue Panel • Rising pillar • Rock Block • Rocket • Rotating Panel • Roulette Block • Seagull • Small bird • Splotchy goop • [[Super Jump Panel] • Swing • Switch Block • Switch Panel • Switchboard • Super POW Block • Tank • Timer Gate • Touchstone • Tree
Locations Lake Lapcat Fur Step Island • Scamper Shores • Pounce Bounce Isle • Fort Flaptrap • Slipskate Slope • Clawswipe Colosseum • Trickity Tower • Crisp Climb Castle • Risky Whisker Island • Pipe Path Tower • Roiling Roller Isle • Mount Magmeow • Lucky Isle
Moves Crawl • Crouch • Crouch Jump • Dash • Diveb • Floating Jump • Ground Pound • Ground Pound Jump • Jump • Long Jump • Roll • Scuttle • Shell dash • Side Somersault • Slide • Spin • Spin Jump • Swim • Wall Jump
Gameplay elements amiibo • Completion • Enemy Battles • List of Cat Shine names in other languages • Snapshot Mode • Toad Brigade
Further info Gallery

Derived Names

Preliminary list of possible derived name discussions to be had.

Current discussion open

Probably worth changing as-is?

Confident but to be discussed

uh oh, name overlap?

Hesitant, discuss

Shy Guy Hell

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