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!colspan=3|''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' / ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' / ''[[Super Mario Bros. Deluxe]]'' | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Playable characters | |||
|[[Mario]] • [[Luigi]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Forms | |||
|[[Small Mario|Regular Mario]] • [[Super Mario (form)|Super Mario]] • [[Fire Mario|Fiery Mario]] • [[Invincible Mario]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Non-playable characters | |||
|[[Princess Peach|Princess Toadstool]] • [[Toad (species)|Mushroom retainers]] • [[Mushroom King]] • [[Miyuki]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Takaaki]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Noritake]]<sup>b</sup> • [[KYON²]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Takeshi]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Matchan]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Hidechan]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Worlds A-C human]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Boo]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Yoshi]]<sup>c</sup> | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Enemies | |||
|[[Blooper|Bloober]] • [[Bullet Bill]] • [[Buzzy Beetle]] • [[Cheep Cheep|Cheep-cheep]] • [[Enemy clone]]<sup>d</sup> • [[Hammer Bro]]ther • [[Koopa Paratroopa]] • [[Koopa Troopa]] • [[Lakitu]] • [[Goomba|Little Goomba]] • [[OkaP]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Pakkun OkaP]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Piranha Plant|Piranha plant]] • [[Lava Bubble|Podoboo]] • [[Spiny]] • [[Spiny Egg|Spiny's egg]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Obstacles | |||
|[[Current]] • [[Fire Bar|Fire-Bar]] • [[Bowser's Flame|Koopa's fire]] • [[Lava]] • [[Pit]] • [[Spike Trap]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Bill Blaster|Turtle Cannon]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Bosses | |||
|[[Impostor Bowser|Fake Bowser]] • [[Bowser]] • [[Bowser's Brother]]<sup>a</sup> | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Items and power-ups | |||
|[[1-Up Mushroom|1 up mushroom]] • [[Buzzy Shell|Buzzy shell]] • [[Coin]] • [[Fire Flower]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Koopa Shell|Koopa shell]] • [[Hiranya]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Super Mushroom|Magic Mushroom]] • [[Poison Mushroom|Poisonous Mushroom]]<sup>a</sup> • [[Red Coin]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Super Star|Starman]] • [[Yoshi's Egg|Yoshi Egg]]<sup>c</sup> | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Objects | |||
|[[? Block|? block]] • [[3-2-1 Block]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Axe|Ax]] • [[Scale Lift|Balance Lift]] • [[Vine|Beanstalk]] • [[Brick Block|Brick]] • [[Coral]] • [[Warp Door|Door]]<sup>a</sup> • [[Dotted-Line Block]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Face Block (switch)|Face Block]]<sup>c</sup> • [[Goal Pole|Flagpole]] • [[Fireworks]] • [[Flimsy Lift]] • [[Horsetail|Horsehair plant]] • [[Island]] • [[Trampoline|Jumping board]] • [[Lift]] • [[Mentama Mark]]<sup>b</sup> • [[Warp Pipe|Pipe]] • [[POW Block]]<sup>d</sup> • [[Cloud Block|Small cloud]] • [[Hard Block|Stairblock]] • [[Mushroom Platform|Super Mushroom]] • [[Super Spring]]<sup>a</sup> • [[Water]] • [[Wind]]<sup>a</sup> | |||
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!rowspan=3|Locations | |||
![[World]]s in ''Super Mario Bros.'' | |||
|[[World 1 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 1]] • [[World 2 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] • [[World 3 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 3]] • [[World 4 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 4]] • [[World 5 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 5]] • [[World 6 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 6]] • [[World 7 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 7]] • [[World 8 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 8]] | |||
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!Worlds in ''The Lost Levels'' | |||
|[[World 1 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 1]] • [[World 2 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 2]] • [[World 3 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 3]] • [[World 4 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 4]] • [[World 5 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 5]] • [[World 6 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 6]] • [[World 7 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 7]] • [[World 8 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 8]] • [[World 9 (Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels)|World 9]] • [[World A]] • [[World B]] • [[World C]] • [[World D]] | |||
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!Other | |||
|[[Mushroom Kingdom]] • [[Bowser's Castle]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Moves | |||
|[[Crouch]] • [[Dash]] • [[Jump]] • [[Kick]] • [[Stomp]] • [[Swim]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Gameplay elements | |||
|[[Coin Heaven]] • [[Extra life]] • [[Game Over]] • [[Hard Mode]] • [[Minus World]] • [[Point]] • [[Sub-area]] • [[Time Limit]] • [[Warp Zone]] | |||
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!colspan=2|Music compositions | |||
|"[[Ground BGM (Super Mario Bros.)|Ground BGM]]" • "[[Underground BGM]]" • "[[Underwater BGM]]" • "[[Castle BGM]]" • "[[Invincibility BGM]]" | |||
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!colspan=2|Rereleases and remakes | |||
|''[[All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.]]'' • ''[[BS Super Mario Collection]]'' • ''[[Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros.]]'' • ''[[Super Mario All-Stars]]'' (''[[Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World|+ Super Mario World]]'' · ''[[Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition|Limited Edition]]'') • ''[[Super Mario Bros. Special]]'' • ''[[VS. Super Mario Bros.]]'' | |||
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!colspan=2|Further info | |||
|[[Gallery:Super Mario Bros.|Gallery]] (''[[Gallery:Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels|The Lost Levels]]'' · ''[[Gallery:Super Mario Bros. Deluxe|Deluxe]]'') • [[List of Super Mario Bros. glitches|Glitches]] (''[[List of Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels glitches|The Lost Levels]]'') • ''[[How to win at Super Mario Bros.]]'' • [[List of Super Mario Bros. media|Media]] • [[List of Super Mario Bros. pre-release and unused content|Pre-release and unused content]] • [[List of references to Super Mario Bros.|References in later media]] • [[List of Super Mario Bros. staff|Staff]] (''[[List of Super Mario Bros. Deluxe staff|Deluxe]]'') • [[Super Mario Bros. 25th Anniversary|''Super Mario Bros.'' 25th Anniversary]] • [[Super Mario Bros. 30th Anniversary|''Super Mario Bros.'' 30th Anniversary]] • [[Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary|''Super Mario Bros.'' 35th Anniversary]] • ''[[Super Mario Bros.: Mario Syndrome]]'' • ''[[Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen!]]'' • ''[[Super Mario World (album)|Super Mario World]]'' | |||
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!colspan=3|''[[Super Mario Bros. 35]]'' | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Playable characters | |||
|[[Mario]] • [[Luigi]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Forms | |||
|[[Small Mario|Regular Mario]] • [[Super Mario (form)|Super Mario]] • [[Fire Mario]] • [[Invincible Mario]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Enemies | |||
|[[Blooper|Bloober]] • [[Bullet Bill]] • [[Buzzy Beetle]] • [[Cheep Cheep|Cheep-cheep]] • [[Enemy clone]] • [[Hammer Bro]] • [[Koopa Paratroopa]] • [[Koopa Troopa]] • [[Lakitu]] • [[Goomba]] • [[Piranha Plant|Piranha plant]] • [[Lava Bubble]] • [[Spiny]] • [[Spiny Egg]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Obstacles | |||
|[[Current]] • [[Fire Bar]] • [[Bowser's Flame]] • [[Lava]] • [[Pit]] • [[Bill Blaster]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Bosses | |||
|[[Impostor Bowser|Fake Bowser]] • [[Bowser]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Items and power-ups | |||
|[[1-Up Mushroom]] • [[Buzzy Shell]] • [[Coin]] • [[Fire Flower]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Koopa Shell]] • [[Super Mushroom]] • [[Super Star]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Objects | |||
|[[? Block]] • [[Axe]] • [[Scale Lift]] • [[Vine]] • [[Brick Block]] • [[Coral]] • [[Goal Pole]] • [[Fireworks]] • [[Flimsy Lift]] • [[Horsetail|Horsehair plant]] • [[Island]] • [[Trampoline]] • [[Lift]] • [[Warp Pipe]] • [[POW Block]] • [[Cloud Block]] • [[Hard Block]] • [[Mushroom Platform]] • [[Water]] | |||
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!rowspan=2|Locations | |||
!Worlds | |||
|[[World 1 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 1]] • [[World 2 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 2]] • [[World 3 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 3]] • [[World 4 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 4]] • [[World 5 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 5]] • [[World 6 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 6]] • [[World 7 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 7]] • [[World 8 (Super Mario Bros.)|World 8]] | |||
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!Other | |||
|[[Mushroom Kingdom]] • [[Bowser's Castle]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Moves | |||
|[[Crouch]] • [[Dash]] • [[Jump]] • [[Kick]] • [[Stomp]] • [[Swim]] | |||
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!style=background:#f73 colspan=2|Gameplay elements | |||
|[[Coin Heaven]] • [[Sub-area]] • [[Time Limit]] • [[Warp Zone]] | |||
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!colspan=2|Music compositions | |||
|"[[Ground BGM (Super Mario Bros.)|Ground BGM]]" • "[[Underground BGM]]" • "[[Underwater BGM]]" • "[[Castle BGM]]" • "[[Invincibility BGM]]" | |||
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Revision as of 01:03, February 6, 2025
I'm PopitTart. I'm more of a casual here. My focus is on Pikipedia under the same username.
Proposal Draft
Recently, Mario Portal updated to cover enemies from New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder which is a great boon for enemy documentation, but there is another thing that changed with this update. Namely, nearly every instance of enemies being named titles like "Mega Koopa Troopa (Red)" or "Cataquack (Blue)" has been changed to "Red Mega Koopa Troopa" and "Blue Cataquack" across the entire series. Enemies which have distinct behavior depending on their coloration now have fully distinct names, rather than parenthetical disambiguators. This begs the question: Should Super Mario Wiki follow suit? After all, what is different between Goomba and Mega Goomba that doesn't also apply to the difference between Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa? What makes Gold Koopa adequately distinct and not Red and Green?
This proposal aims to recognize these variants on equal ground as other variants that the wiki splits. This would necessarily mean that every single instance of a colored Shy Guy or Yoshi gets an entirely distinct page, heaven forbid. Just that enemies that are distinguished by color scheme should be considered on par with size variants and the rest.
For most enemies, this would create an "umbrella" article, such as Koopa Troopa over Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa. This article would document games where a distinction between Red Koopas and Green Koopas is either irrelevant or nonexistent, such as Super Mario Land 2, Super Mario 64, and the Mario Kart games. For reference, see the relationship between Koopa Shell, Green Shell, and Red Shell.Some enemies would not get "umbrella articles", such as Trompette. There currently only exist Brown Trompette and Purple Trompette in the same game, so there is no such general "Trompette". These cases would receive a disambiguation page with some brief information shared between the variants it provides, similarly to Tileoid.
What enemies would this apply to? Well, Here's a list of color-distinguished enemies listed in the Mario Portal (and a couple more from some deeper research) sorted into categories based on how they differ.
- Green Koopa Troopa/Red Koopa Troopa
- Red Shy Guy/Pink Shy Guy (SMB2)
- Red Snifit/Pink Snifit (SMB2)
- Important to note for the above two that the Pink enemies were made blue in Super Mario All-Stars and Super Mario Advance. Despite this, the Nintendo Player's Guide for All-Stars still calls them "Shyguy Pink" and "Pink Snifit". The Super Mario Advance manual uses "Blue Snifit". In total, it seems like there would need to be Red, Pink, and Blue pages? Discussion certainly open.
- giant Red Shy Guy/giant Blue Shy Guy (SMA)
- Green Big Koopa Troopa/Red Big Koopa Troopa
- Brown Trompette/Purple Trompette
- Green Gamboo/Purple Gamboo
- Gold Metal Gamboo/Silver Metal Gamboo
- Movement Differences - These enemies seem to be distinguished by how they behave in other ways.
- Green Koopa Paratroopa/Red Koopa Paratroopa
- Red Cheep Cheep/Gray Cheep Cheep (SMB1, the latter is also faster)
- Piranha Plant/Red Piranha Plant (SMBLL, the latter is also faster)
- Green Mega Piranha Plant/Red Mega Piranha Plant
- Spiny Egg/Green Spiny Egg
- Paragoomba/Red Paragoomba
- Cheep Cheep/Green Cheep Cheep (SMB3)
- Yellow Koopa Troopa
- Yellow Koopa Paratroopa
- Blue Swipin' Stu/Green Swipin' Stu
- Gray Beezo/Red Beezo
- Ninji A/Ninji B (Not actually different colors, but conceptually related.)
- Gray Panser/Pink Panser/Red Panser
- Gray Snifit
- Bullet Bill/Blue Bullet Bill/Purple Bullet Bill
- Blue Electro-Koopa/Red Electro-Koopa
- Blue Cataquack/Red Cataquack
- King Kaliente/Black King Kaliente
- Dino Piranha/Black Dino Piranha
- Blue Crabber/Red Crabber
- Lava Bubble/Blue Lava Bubble
- Speed - These enemies behave mostly the same, but one is faster.
- Green Climbing Koopa/Red Climbing Koopa
- Blue Koopa Troopa
- Green Sugarstar/ Purple Sugarstar
- Red Pokipede/Green Pokipede
- Other
- Yellow Konk/Blue Konk (Different colors based on their direction)
- Green Bloomp/Purple Bloomp/gray Bloomp (Purples are spawned repeatedly from blasters, grays don't move)
Nintendo Entertainment System games | |
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Super Mario franchise | Donkey Kong (1986) • Mario Bros. (1986) • Pinball (1985) • Golf (1986) • Wrecking Crew (1985) • Super Mario Bros. (1985) • Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988) • Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) • Dr. Mario (1990) • NES Open Tournament Golf (1991) • Mario is Missing! (1993) • Mario's Time Machine (1994) |
Donkey Kong franchise | Donkey Kong (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. Math (1986) • Donkey Kong 3 (1986) • Donkey Kong Classics (1988) |
Yoshi franchise | Yoshi (1992) • Yoshi's Cookie (1993) |
Wario franchise | Wario's Woods (1994) |
Miscellaneous | Nintendo World Championships 1990 (1990) • Nintendo Campus Challenge (1991) |
Derived Names
Preliminary list of possible derived name discussions to be had.
Current discussion open
Probably worth changing as-is?
Confident but to be discussed
- Disaster Cat
- Cat Parent
- Robo Kikki - the base form is named Monkikki, is this considered an intended name difference or a filename shortening?
- Slave Basa - the base form is named Basabasa, same as above
uh oh, name overlap?
- Senchō Kinopio - find reliability of Senchō, compare Captain Toad and Sea Captain Toad.
- Prof. Kinopio - compare Professor Toad
- Chef Kinopio - compare Chef Toad.
- ? Kinoko - compare Mystery Mushroom
- Mecha Nokonoko - compare Mechakoopa.
Hesitant, discuss
- Uproot Generate Point
- Fire Incoming Chomp
- Giga Snaggles
- Jewel Goob
- Propeller Snifit
- Kinoko Gummy
- Tane Pakkun
Shy Guy Hell
- Vampire Shy Guy/Vampire Guy
- Skull Shy Guy/Skull Guy
- Juggling Shy Guy/Juggling Guy
- Bazooka Shy Guy/Bazooka Guy
- Acorn Shy Guy/Acorn Guy
- Burner Shy Guy/Burner Guy - a German name of Flame Guy is listed on the page.
- Door Shy Guy/Door Guy
- Submarine Shy Guy/Submarine Guy
- Tree Shy Guy/Tree Guy
- Fly Heyho - there already are official Fly Guys and Flying Shy Guys
- Rush Heyho - is rush an established prefix?
- Zombie Debuho - Zombie Heyho is Zombie Guy, Debuho is Fat Guy, no way to decide which would get priority.
- Relay Heihō - name suggests Relay Shy Guy or Relay Guy, but is actually a Boo Guy.