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I'm PopitTart. I'm more of a casual here. My focus is on Pikipedia under the same username.

Proposal Draft

Recently, Mario Portal updated to cover enemies from New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D Land, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder which is a great boon for enemy documentation, but there is another thing that changed with this update. Namely, nearly every instance of enemies being named titles like "Mega Koopa Troopa (Red)" or "Cataquack (Blue)" has been changed to "Red Mega Koopa Troopa" and "Blue Cataquack" across the entire series. Enemies which have distinct behavior depending on their coloration now have fully distinct names, rather than parenthetical disambiguators. This begs the question: Should Super Mario Wiki follow suit? After all, what is different between Goomba and Mega Goomba that doesn't also apply to the difference between Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa? What makes Gold Koopa adequately distinct and not Red and Green?

This proposal aims to recognize these variants on equal ground as other variants that the wiki splits. This would necessarily mean that every single instance of a colored Shy Guy or Yoshi gets an entirely distinct page, heaven forbid. Just that enemies that are distinguished by color scheme should be considered on par with size variants and the rest.

For most enemies, this would create an "umbrella" article, such as Koopa Troopa over Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa. This article would document games where a distinction between Red Koopas and Green Koopas is either irrelevant or nonexistent, such as Super Mario Land 2, Super Mario 64, and the Mario Kart games. For reference, see the relationship between Koopa Shell, Green Shell, and Red Shell.Some enemies would not get "umbrella articles", such as Trompette. There currently only exist Brown Trompette and Purple Trompette in the same game, so there is no such general "Trompette". These cases would receive a disambiguation page with some brief information shared between the variants it provides, similarly to Tileoid.

What enemies would this apply to? Well, Here's a list of color-distinguished enemies listed in the Mario Portal (and a couple more from some deeper research) sorted into categories based on how they differ.

Ledge Conscious - the latter subject turns around when reaching a ledge, like Goombrat to Goomba.
  • Green Koopa Troopa/Red Koopa Troopa
  • Red Shy Guy/Pink Shy Guy (SMB2)
  • Red Snifit/Pink Snifit (SMB2)
    • Important to note for the above two that the Pink enemies were made blue in Super Mario All-Stars and Super Mario Advance. Despite this, the Nintendo Player's Guide for All-Stars still calls them "Shyguy Pink" and "Pink Snifit". The Super Mario Advance manual uses "Blue Snifit". In total, it seems like there would need to be Red, Pink, and Blue pages? Discussion certainly open.
  • giant Red Shy Guy/giant Blue Shy Guy (SMA)
  • Green Big Koopa Troopa/Red Big Koopa Troopa
  • Brown Trompette/Purple Trompette
  • Green Gamboo/Purple Gamboo
  • Gold Metal Gamboo/Silver Metal Gamboo
Movement Differences - These enemies seem to be distinguished by how they behave in other ways.
  • Green Koopa Paratroopa/Red Koopa Paratroopa
  • Red Cheep Cheep/Gray Cheep Cheep (SMB1, the latter is also faster)
  • Piranha Plant/Red Piranha Plant (SMBLL, the latter is also faster)
  • Green Mega Piranha Plant/Red Mega Piranha Plant
  • Spiny Egg/Green Spiny Egg
  • Paragoomba/Red Paragoomba
  • Cheep Cheep/Green Cheep Cheep (SMB3)
  • Yellow Koopa Troopa
  • Yellow Koopa Paratroopa
  • Blue Swipin' Stu/Green Swipin' Stu
  • Gray Beezo/Red Beezo
  • Ninji Ａ/Ninji B (Not actually different colors, but conceptually related.)
  • Gray Panser/Pink Panser/Red Panser
  • Gray Snifit
  • Bullet Bill/Blue Bullet Bill/Purple Bullet Bill
  • Blue Electro-Koopa/Red Electro-Koopa
  • Blue Cataquack/Red Cataquack
  • King Kaliente/Black King Kaliente
  • Dino Piranha/Black Dino Piranha
  • Blue Crabber/Red Crabber
  • Lava Bubble/Blue Lava Bubble
Speed - These enemies behave mostly the same, but one is faster.
  • Green Climbing Koopa/Red Climbing Koopa
  • Blue Koopa Troopa
  • Green Sugarstar/ Purple Sugarstar
  • Red Pokipede/Green Pokipede
Other
  • Yellow Konk/Blue Konk (Different colors based on their direction)
  • Green Bloomp/Purple Bloomp/gray Bloomp (Purples are spawned repeatedly from blasters, grays don't move)

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Nintendo Entertainment System games
Super Mario franchise Donkey Kong (1986) • Mario Bros. (1986) • Pinball (1985) • Golf (1986) • Wrecking Crew (1985) • Super Mario Bros. (1985) • Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988) • Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) • Dr. Mario (1990) • NES Open Tournament Golf (1991) • Mario is Missing! (1993) • Mario's Time Machine (1994)
Donkey Kong franchise Donkey Kong (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. (1986) • Donkey Kong Jr. Math (1986) • Donkey Kong 3 (1986) • Donkey Kong Classics (1988)
Yoshi franchise Yoshi (1992) • Yoshi's Cookie (1993)
Wario franchise Wario's Woods (1994)
Miscellaneous Nintendo World Championships 1990 (1990) • Nintendo Campus Challenge (1991)
Family Computer games
Super Mario franchise Donkey Kong (1983) • Mario Bros. (1983) • Pinball (1984) • Golf (1984) • Family BASIC (1984) • Family BASIC V3 (1985) • Wrecking Crew (1985) • Super Mario Bros. (1985) • Super Mario Bros. 2‡ (1986) • Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988) • Dr. Mario (1990) • NES Open Tournament Golf (1991) • Super Mario USA (1992)
Donkey Kong franchise Donkey Kong (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson (1983) • Donkey Kong Jr. Math (1983) • Donkey Kong 3 (1984)
Yoshi franchise Yoshi (1991) • Yoshi's Cookie (1992)
Wario franchise Wario's Woods (1994)
Family Computer Disk System Golf (1986) • Super Mario Bros. (1986) • Super Mario Bros. 2‡ (1986) • I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater‡ (1986) • All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.‡ (1986) • Golf: Japan Course‡ (1987) • Golf: U.S. Course‡ (1987) • Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic‡ (1987) • Famicom Grand Prix: F1 Race‡ (1987) • Donkey Kong^ (1988) • Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally‡ (1988) • Donkey Kong Jr.^ (1988) • Mario Bros. Returns^ (1988) • Wrecking Crew^ (1989) • Pinball^ (1989)
‡ Disk System only
^ Disk Writer only


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Obstacles Baddie Box • Bill Blaster • Cannon • Dark • Fire Bar • Fuzzy Horde • Lava • Poison • Poison fog • Quicksand • Spike ball • Spike Block • Spike Trap • Spiked roller • Volcanic debris
Bosses Bowser • Boom Boom • Pom Pom • Hisstocrat • Boss Brolder • King Ka-thunk • Prince Bully • Motley Bossblob • Meowser
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Locations Normal worlds World 1 • World 2 • World 3 • World 4 • World 5 • World 6 • World Castle • World Bowser
Special worlds World Star • World Mushroom • World Flower • World Crown
Other Sprixie Kingdom • Mushroom Kingdom • Sprixie Houses • Toad Houses • Mystery Houses • Lucky Houses
Moves Crawl • Crouch • Crouch Jump • Dash • Diveb • Floating Jump • Ground Pound • Ground Pound Jumpb • Jump • Long Jump • Roll • Scuttle • Shell dash • Side Somersault • Slide • Spin • Spin Jump • Swim • Synchro Ground-Pound • Wall Jump
Gameplay elements amiibob • Captain Toad's Adventures • Completion • Enemy Battles • Luigi Bros. • List of Pixel Luigi sightings • List of stamps • Miiversea • Points • Snapshot Modeb • Toad Brigadeb
Musical compositions "Super Bell Hill" • "Mario's Colour Panel" • "Super Block Land"
Further info Gallery (SM3DW+BF) • Glitches (SM3DW+BF) • Media (SM3DW+BF) • Original soundtrack • Playable characters' statistics (SM3DW+BF) • Pre-release and unused content • Staff (SM3DW+BF)
a Exclusive to the Wii U version
b Exclusive to the Nintendo Switch version
c Exclusive to Luigi Bros.
Related Play Nintendo activities:
Can’t-miss games • What does THAT thing do? • Cute-throat enemies • Power-up trivia quiz! • Power-up personality quiz! • Colorful cat-tastrophe!
Bowser's Fury
Playable characters Mario • Bowser Jr.
Forms Small Mario • Mario (form) • Cat Mario • Tanooki Mario • Fire Mario • Boomerang Mario • Invincible Mario • Lucky Cat Mario • White Cat Mario • Giga Cat Mario
Non-playable characters Rabbits • Mega Rabbit • Toads • Plessie • Lumas • Toadette • Kittens • Neko Parent
Enemies Ant Trooper • Biddybud • Big Ant Trooper • Big Boo • Big Galoomba • Blockstepper • Blooper • Blurker • Bob-omb • Boo • Boomerang Bro • Brolder • Bullet Bill • Bully • Cat Banzai Bill • Cat Bullet Bill • Cat Goomba • Chargin' Chuck • Charvaargh • Cheep Cheep • Coin Coffer • Conkdor • Disaster Neko • Fire Bro • Fire Piranha Plant • Fizzlit • Flopter • Fury Shadow • Fuzzler • Fuzzy • Galoomba • Grumblump • Hammer Bro • Hop-Chop • Horned Ant Trooper • Ka-thunk • Innertube Goomba • Lava Bubble • Magikoopa • Mega Piranha Plant • Para-Biddybud • Parabones • Peepa • Piranha Creeper • Piranha Plant • Rammerhead • Ring Burner • Skating Goomba • Skipsqueak • Small Rammerhead • Snow Pokey • Spike • Spiny • Spiny Skipsqueak • Splorch • Splounder • Stingby • Thwomp • Ty-foo • Unshelled Koopa
Obstacles Baddie Box • Bill Blaster • Cannon • Dark • Fire Bar • Fury Sun • Lava • Spike ball • Spike Block • Spike Trap • Spiked roller
Bosses Fury Bowser • Giant Bowser
Items and power-ups 1-Up Mushroom • Baseball • Blue Coin • Bomb • Boomerang Flower • Cat Shine • Cat Shine Shard • Coin • Coin pile • Fire Flower • Giga Bell • Green Shell • Hidden Coin • Ice Skate • Invincibility Bell • Invincibility Leaf • Key • Lucky Bell • Plessie Medal • Potted Piranha Plant • Propeller Box • Red Coin • Snowball • Springboard • Super Bell • Super Leaf • Super Mushroom • Super Star
Objects ? Block • Arrow platform • Arrow Sign • Brick Block • Cage • Cat Wheel • Chain-Link • Checkpoint Flag • Clear Pipe • Clear Pipe Cannon • Cloud Cannon • Cloud Lift • Cog • Color Panel • Conveyor Belt • Crab • Crate • Crystal Block • Dash Panel • Donut Block • Empty Block • Falling spike • Fling Pole • Flower • Fluff • Fury Block • Gift Box • Gong • Graffiti • Green Star Ring • Ground-Pound Switch • Hexagon • Hidden Block • Illusion • Jump Panel • Kick Bomb • Lift • Lighthouse • Long ? Block • Multi-Vator • Mushroom Trampoline • Mystery Box • P Switch • Pipe • Red POW Block • Red Ring • Red-Blue Panel • Rising pillar • Rock Block • Rocket • Rotating Panel • Roulette Block • Seagull • Small bird • Splotchy goop • [[Super Jump Panel] • Swing • Switch Block • Switch Panel • Switchboard • Super POW Block • Tank • Timer Gate • Touchstone • Tree
Locations Lake Lapcat Fur Step Island • Scamper Shores • Pounce Bounce Isle • Fort Flaptrap • Slipskate Slope • Clawswipe Colosseum • Trickity Tower • Crisp Climb Castle • Risky Whisker Island • Pipe Path Tower • Roiling Roller Isle • Mount Magmeow • Lucky Isle
Moves Crawl • Crouch • Crouch Jump • Dash • Diveb • Floating Jump • Ground Pound • Ground Pound Jump • Jump • Long Jump • Roll • Scuttle • Shell dash • Side Somersault • Slide • Spin • Spin Jump • Swim • Wall Jump
Gameplay elements amiibo • Completion • Enemy Battles • List of Cat Shine names in other languages • Snapshot Mode • Toad Brigade
Further info Gallery

Derived Names

Preliminary list of possible derived name discussions to be had.

Current discussion open

Probably worth changing as-is?

Confident but to be discussed

uh oh, name overlap?

Hesitant, discuss

Shy Guy Hell

Yoshi table

Game Green Red Blue Yellow Pink Light-Blue Purple Brown Black White Orange
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