MarioWiki:Proposals
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Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. While only autoconfirmed users can comment on proposals, anyone is free to comment on talk page proposals.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
- Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- A proposal cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
- If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
- Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks (at the earliest).
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 14 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "November 22, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as for proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by the additional rules below:
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the subject page of the talk page it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Decide whether to create articles for Ashita ni Nattara and Banana Tengoku and/or include them on List of Donkey Kong Country (television series) songs (discuss) Deadline: November 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Determine how to handle the Tattle Log images from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) (discuss) Deadline: November 30, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge False Character and the Fighting Polygon/Wireframe/Alloy/Mii Teams to List of Super Smash Bros. series bosses (discuss) Deadline: December 2, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
| Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024) |
| Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024) |
- ^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
| Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024) |
| Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024) |
| Use the classic and classic-link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024) |
| Split articles for the alternate-named reskins from All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 3, 2024) |
| Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024) |
| Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024) |
| Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024) |
| Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024) |
| Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024) |
- ^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.
Talk page proposals
| Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021) |
| Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022) |
| Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024) |
| Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024) |
| Split Banana Peel from Banana, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2024) |
| Merge Spiked Thwomp with Thwomp, Blinker (ended November 2, 2024) |
| Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024) |
| Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024) |
List of Talk Page Proposals
- Merge The Big Boo (boss) with Big Boo. (Discuss) Deadline: November 9, 2015 23:59 GMT
- Split Electro-Koopa variants. (Discuss) Deadline: November 9, 2015 23:59 GMT
Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
Template:TooManyImages
Long story short, this is for galleries that are stuffed full of redundant pix that need a lot of trimming. I have two possible wordings in mind:
This article has too many images. Please help by removing some unneeded images from this article.
Or (since the two templates doesn't work for me): There are too many images in this article. Please help by removing some of the unnedded or useless images.
I am open to suggestions on wording and coloration.
Proposer: Roy Koopa (talk)
Deadline: November 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT
Support
Oppose
- Mister Wu (talk) The sentence of the template is quite generic, I suspect it can lead to wrong or hasty actions that then must be reverted, especially because some images that were uploaded are way harder to obtain than, as an example, simple trivia sentences, and in some cases, such as artworks, this Wiki should possibly have all of them (of course if the same artwork is reused in different contexts, just one copy of said artwork should be here), which means that some galleries will surely have many images. If there are multiple versions of the same image, just keep the higher quality one, if there are images of the wrong subject, delete them. If you think that there are too many images of a certain kind (e.g. screenshots of a game), you should use a template that allows to specify what the problem is.
- Walkazo (talk) - Per my comments below: this is unnecessary.
- Pseudo-dino (talk) Per Walkazo and Ghost Jam in the comments.
- Bazooka Mario (talk) Per all; I feel this template's purpose is already served by {{rewrite}}, which also has a parameter reserved for specific problems such as this one. We don't need an additional color to the rainbow of improvement templates. I don't think other wikis use notice templates like this, so we don't have a lot of good examples to fall back on either.
- RandomYoshi (talk) – Per all.
- Andymii (talk) Per Ghost Jam below. Cluttered pages aren't good by any means, but it's subjective, so I agree that a talk page discussion is enough.
- BabyLuigi64 (talk) Per all.
Comments
If there's too many images, why doesn't whoever's there just remove some? It's not like trying to add images, which involved hunting stuff down and uploading them, and is even easier than dealing with long Trivia sections or overly crufty prose, which both generally require effortful rewriting (e.g. some Trivia needs to be incorporated, rather than simply removed). And for galleries, the main problems are superfluous screenshots, so already, where to chop is narrowed down for folks to make it easy (shoot, maybe we could just axe those sections entirely and leave it to the game and subject articles to showcase strategic screenshots of gameplay, with only overview-type things like maps or package-deal stuff like cutscene slideshows left in the galleries). It just seems a bit lazy to make a whole template to pass the buck on such a simple issue; if someone really just wants to flag and dash, they can use {{rewrite}} anyway. Plus, if this is mainly for galleries, ideally, once we finally get rid of the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach to screenshots that's bloating them up for the most part, then wouldn't the temple be mostly unnecessary? Finally, even if we were gonna make this template, it should be called "Template:LessImages" and be yellow, for consistency with {{Image}} and {{MoreImages}} - {{construction}} is completely unrelated to problems occurring in long-established pages. - Walkazo (talk)
- So it would look more like this?
This article needs fewer images. Please help by removing some unneeded images from this article.
J-Luigi (talk) 20:34, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
This seems like a subjective editorial issue that is better served by being brought up on a talk page or the collaboration forum than just inventing a new label slap on. -- Ghost Jam
20:06, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.
