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Adding "sales" to infobox

I think it would be a good idea to add global or regional sales of a game to this infobox. It's use would be optional, but it would be good because not all articles have sales infomation. Does anyone agree?

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits)

Make a TTP if you feel it is necessary PTR (trivialWarlord)
I think sales should go in the reception section/the opening paragraph like on Super Mario Galaxy personally. Raven Effect (talk)

TTP (adding sales in the infobox)

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Don't add sales 1-10
Hi everyone! I'm proposing to add 'sales' as a parameter to the {{game infobox}} template. As I said above, it would be necessary because often this information is overlooked, and if it was added to the infobox, it would push users to fill it. Responding to a comment above, yes, the info can go elsewhere on an article, but wouldn't it be better to collect it in the infobox?

Proposer: YoshiKong (talk)
Deadline: June 21, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support (add parameter)

  1. YoshiKong (talk) Per my proposal.

Oppose (leave infobox as it is)

  1. Walkazo (talk) - I feel like it'd be better to use sales as a way to try and motivate users to create full-on Reception sections: it's an easy jumping-off point, onto which more in-depth info can be added. Sales also need explanations a lot of the time, especially if there's more than one region, and that'd better suited to paragraph form, rather than just sticking the numbers in an infobox.
  2. Zero777 (talk) Per Walkazo. Video games are not like movies, where the movie company gain money only at the first few weeks at the box office and then after that its the theatre's money, no, they continue to garner money.
  3. Bop1996 (talk) Per Walkazo.
  4. Raven Effect (talk) Per Walkazo.
  5. Commander Code-8 (talk) The amount of sales for a game is something that needs an explanation,e.g. why Super Mario RPG didn't have a huge amount of sales despite being well-reviewed is something that warrants it's on explanation, putting a simple number in the infobox won't do much.
  6. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Walkazo.
  7. MarioSmasher (talk) I cannot explain my total disappointment about this. We cannot treat games like movies!
  8. Vommack (talk) Per Walkazo.
  9. Jazama (talk) Per all
  10. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per Walkazo.

Comments

Thank you to everyone for giving their honest opinions. In retrospect, my proposal does seem like quite a questionable idea. --YoshiKong (talk)

Does that mean we can close up shop on this one early? Vommack (talk)

Pre-"release" releases

While Nintendo haven't gone anywhere near as hard on public betas and "Early Access" as a lot of other companies, it's not unheard of - the Mario Tennis Aces tournament/demo right now being a perfect example. Shouldn't we reflect that with an appropriate variable for this? - Reboot (talk) 17:34, 2 June 2018 (EDT)

I agree with this. We already do sorta cover demos with the Mario & Sonic Rio demo, but more coverage on demos in general is always appreciated. BabyLuigiFire.pngRay Trace(T|C) 17:47, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
We could group the demo release with the final release in the Release date variable. I don't see why not. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:15, 3 June 2018 (EDT)
Honestly? The release variable is already overloaded as it is. There should probably be a separate - and collapsed by default! - variable for re-release dates, with the main "Release date" just for the first releases in any given territory. (I can't emphasise "collapsed by default" enough for that part) - Reboot (talk) 00:19, 4 June 2018 (EDT)

Request

Can we have a part like

Hello!? [-]€40 vv@(talk · edits)Hyperluigi.gif 14:11, May 11, 2019 (EDT)
Old, but I think it can work. Sprite of a Goomba from Super Mario Bros.DarkNightSprite of a Piranha Plant from Super Mario World 18:24, September 22, 2020 (EDT)

Game-Infobox

Why isn't this called Template: Game-infobox and make this page a disambig page for infobox templates. The only reason I'm bringing this up is because of this. Sprite of a Goomba from Super Mario Bros.DarkNightSprite of a Piranha Plant from Super Mario World 18:24, September 22, 2020 (EDT)

Add a section listing languages the game is available in to the infobox

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add section 7-3
I think this would be useful as sometimes this info is hard to come by (and the translation section at the bottom of the page often isn't indicative of what languages the game is offered in as game titles are usually left untranslated)

Proposer: Zachruff (talk)
Deadline: February 26, 2022, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Hewer (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Superstarxalien169 (talk) Per proposal.
  3. Zachruff (talk) Per proposal.
  4. Somethingone (talk) Per proposal.
  5. Atlas (talk) Per proposal.
  6. RHG1951 (talk) Per proposal.
  7. Ray Trace (talk) This would be immensely helpful for trying to figure out if X game has, say, a Russian localization, and that we need to document names onto the wiki.

Oppose

  1. WildWario (talk) How would we add these in the infobox? If we do add them, the infobox might become too long due to some games being available in too many languages.
  2. DannyTheDingo (talk) Per above.
  3. LinkTheLefty (talk) I can see a boxart region toggle, but listing every language might be a bit much for the infobox. I think it would be better to have the names in other languages section expanded to cover languages that share the English title, which we already do for some articles. Plus, what about cases where the game itself is released in another territory, but not another language? There's technically no "Japanese" version of a lot of earlier games, after all, not to mention non-English European releases can be murky.

Comments

This feels important enough to include, but not for the infobox. Perhaps a bulleted list of all known language releases within or below the "Names in other languages" section? However, I can see how that could sometimes be made redundant by the infobox's pre-existing area for regional releases. Black Dog DingoHazel [542] 05:57, February 12, 2022 (EST)

Re: WildWario (talk) I mean we already have the list of release date in every single region which would take up the same amount of space. Could we also not have lists in the infobox be collapseable if people think they are getting too long? Zachruff (talk) 08:52, February 12, 2022 (EST)

Re: LinkTheLefty (talk) I think you are confused, we already have a list of which territories the game was released in and when, but just because a game released in a territory doesn't mean it was localized to that places languages. (i.e. Nintendo has official releases in South Africa yet does not localize them into any of SA's many official languages). Additionally, like I said before, game titles and box arts often are left in English, and there are also boxarts made for regions that arent localized either (Middle East for example). finally, even the official Nintendo website feels that its important enough to list all supported languages so I don't see why it wouldn't be important enough here too when we have much more obscure things like the media type. Zachruff (talk) 11:08, February 20, 2022 (EST)

Add the product IDs in the infobox

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passed 4-0
The serial codes are listed in the infobox. We can check it through the back of the boxart. In handheld games, it usually listed on the front cover. Also Japanese Nintendo website redirects its serial code as a page.

Example:

Proposer: Windy (talk)
Deadline: March 11, 2023, 23:59 GMT Extended to March 18, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Support
  1. Spectrogram (talk) Per proposal.
  2. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) Per proposal & Spectrogram.
  3. ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per proposal.
  4. 1468z (talk) Per proposal.
Oppose
Comments

Does this proposal account for the fact that product IDs often differ by region? LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:00, March 16, 2023 (EDT)

It probably does. I suggest you ask Windy (talk) himself. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:57, March 16, 2023 (CST)
The serials are included by region, like rating. Windy (talk) 20:58, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

Bug in languages template

I mentioned this before in Template talk:Languages but no one seems to have noticed. If there is no American English version available, the template will leave a blank space above the next language. This can be seen in Kaettekita Mario Bros. and Yakuman DS.--Platform (talk) 23:56, April 1, 2023 (EDT)

It's now fixed!--Platform (talk) 00:34, April 2, 2023 (EDT)

Post-proposal discussion (re: product IDs)

So how are we supposed to put the product IDs into the infoboxes? Do we need to create a new parameter, or...? Power Flotzo (talk) 21:02, February 17, 2024 (EST)

Edit: Already been created, thanks Steve! Power Flotzo (talk) 17:07, February 19, 2024 (EST)
The template hasn't been created yet. It depends on the regions. Windy (talk) 20:34, April 24, 2024 (EDT)

Retitle to "Software infobox"

Can this be retitled to "Software infobox"? A point was raised on the I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater talk page about said media being software and not an actual game. But what still remains is that said template is already in use on said page and other software, including even applications like Mario Clock, despite not truly counting as "games." Would it be okay if this template is renamed to "software infobox"? This is more inclusive of broader instances of Super Mario media. Super Mario RPG (talk) 19:50, May 31, 2024 (EDT)

Box art galleries

Since the text "For alternate box art, see the game's gallery." directs straight to the article's "Gallery:" equivalent, some of them like Pinball and Mario Bros. have to redirect from the "(game)" galleries. Is there a way to make the link direct? LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:32, September 22, 2024 (EDT)

Seems that did the trick. Thanks. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:00, September 22, 2024 (EDT)

Adding predecessor(s), sequel(s) to the game infobox

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leave as it is 1-5
I made this proposal because I think we should note the predecessor(s) and sequel(s). It will be easier to search for them and just more logical to add it in. It’s more straightforward to just add it there instead of needing to scroll all the way down in Mario Party's article to find Mario Party 2. You can add multiple predecessors and sequels in case of there’s remakes or spin-offs/non-mainline games.

Proposer: Yoshi18 (talk)
Deadline: April 11, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Include the predecessor(s) and sequel(s)

  1. Yoshi18 (talk) Per proposal.

Leave it like it is, without them

  1. YoYo (talk) there's a whole load of grey area with this. Is Sunshine a successor to 64? Is Galaxy then a successor to Sunshine? Do the Arcade games count in the Mario Kart series? And don't even get me started on Tour. That game's mere existence *alone* is enough to stir up a lot of arguing. A lot of grey area and more importantly a thousand potential arguments and edit wars here. It doesn't seem particularly worth it in my eyes. Also per comments, too. A lot of games "mainlines" are entirely community made. Nintendo have never declared an official Mario Kart mainline, for example. it'd be based on fanmade ideas wherever it isn't already debatable.
  2. Power Flotzo (talk) Per YoYo, this would be way too confusing to implement.
  3. PopitTart (talk) The Super Mario franchise is just not linear enough for this to work. Is Odoru Made in Wario the predecessor to Chō Odoru Made in Wario? Is Yoshi's Story the predecessor to Yoshi's Island DS? What in the world is supposed to come before Super Mario Bros. Wonder? Super Mario Maker 2? New Super Mario Bros 2? Super Mario World???
  4. Nightwicked Bowser (talk) Per all and my comments.
  5. Camwoodstock (talk) Per comments; while we do thing this section has merit in theory, there's way too much ambiguity and not enough of a clear plan for this for us to feel comfortable with this.

Comments

Thing is, there may be some cases where the actual predecessor/sequel may be difficult to determine. You should be aware this would be enforced for way more than just the Mario Party series, and what if a re-release of an older game is released before/after? Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam for example, would the "successor" list the remake Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions that released after, or the following original game Mario & Luigi: Brothership? Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 09:07, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

I actually had a solution for that; you can add multiple predecessors or sequels. So for example the sequel to Mario Party 4 is both Mario Party-e and Mario Party 5. Then you can put both label them as sequels but label Mario Party-e as "(spin-off)" and label Mario Party 5 as "(mainline)". The way this could be wirtten is as example: Mario Party 5 (mainline). And in case of remakes, we could label them as "(remake)" too and the other one as either "(mainline)" or "(original)". Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 09:53, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

Some of the titles are bonkers, though. Are we going to consider New Super Mario Bros. 2 the "mainline" sequel to New Super Mario Bros. over New Super Mario Bros. Wii just because it's numbered? LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:57, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

I don’t think that’s needed. Wii is just officially confirmed to be the mainline sequel to DS. In case of New Super Mario Bros. U. The game has four sequels; New Super Luigi U (spin-off), Super Mario Run (also spin-off), New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (remake) and Super Mario Bros. Wonder (mainline/original). Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 10:27, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

Can we consider DLC to be a full-fledged sequel? How do we categorize other campaigns like Bowser's Fury? LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:35, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

Just like with U. Deluxe, we can label that one as a remake in Super Mario 3D World's sequel tab. Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 10:58, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

We do think a "related games" section has merit, but we disagree heavily with the verbage of "predecessor" and "sequel"--especially predecessor, which feels a bit too "treating every game like it's an evolution of a previous one" for its own good. Though it's not like sequel is much better; for Super Mario Bros., there's Super Mario Bros. USA, Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, and Super Mario Bros. Special, four games that are, in one way or another, proceeding directly from the original SMB1, but all of which do so in very, very different ways. These games do all clearly have some direct connecting tissue to SMB1, but like, as "sequel"s? Camwoodstock-sigicon.png~Camwoodstock ( talkcontribs ) Camwoodstock-sigicon2.png 12:33, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

I have another idea, we make another tab for remakes incase it's needed. But as I said; it isn’t really needed. We can just note which game is a official sequel (in this case Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels and Super Mario Bros. Special are both indirect sequels, which we can basically call spin-offs, while Super Mario Bros. Deluxe is basically a remake and Super Mario Bros. 2 is the only direct mainline sequel. Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 13:03, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

What if we did this strictly chronologically (by initial release order)? I think that could avoid some arguments, mainly matter of reissues. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:37, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

Perhaps. I still think we can divide sequels, by "mainline/direct/original sequel," "spin-off/indirect sequel" or "remake." Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 15:13, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

The immediate previous and subsequent installments in a series could make sense, as well as maybe a concise list of reissues, but beyond that would overcomplicate it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:18, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

True, but I think everyone should start voting because I’m the only one who voted right now. Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 10:58, March 29, 2025 (EDT)

Actually yes, Sunshine is the sequel to 64 and Galaxy. I mean it's made official by Nintendo so. And the Arcade games can count as spin-offs, as I said in some of the comment pages and yes Nintendo did declare official Mario Karts mainline, those are: Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart Tour (why do you think there’s a debate right now with people saying Tour is mainline because Nintendo confirmed it? I am not one of them by the way, we can just title that one as spin-off). That means this argument is a bit invalid. Like I see your point, but also not really. Something someone also suggested is by doing it strict on release date so there won't be any arguments. Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 06:25, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Galaxy released after Sunshine. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 06:28, March 30, 2025 (EDT)
You may think its that straight forward that's the "mario kart mainline". Nintendo have never confirmed that, you see. It's silly to say, but it's an entirely community-made assumption. Even in your message defending it just now, you acknowledge there's debate and grey area, and even explicitly say it should be based on what you think, not what's confirmed... because it hasn't been confirmed. you've just proven its a flawed idea. you can't just say "this argument is a bit invalid" immediately after proving it is, indeed, valid. you can't say "there is no grey area" then say "i disagree with nintendo here" then "see? no grey area". its counteracting yourself, proving my point. - YoYo Yoshi Head (light blue) from Mario Kart: Super Circuit (Talk) 15:02, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

I would like to ask how Super Mario World, its directly numbered sequel, and that game's subsequent sequels are supposed to be treated under this proposed system.--PopitTart (talk) 06:34, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Add the consoles a game is backwards compatible with in the "Console(s)" tab

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leave as it is 1-4
This proposal feature is maybe more logical to add than my previous one. Basically as example: We know that Super Mario Party Jamboree will be backwards compatible with the Nintendo Switch 2, so in the "Console(s)" tab, we add "Nintendo Switch 2 (backwards compatibility)" under "Nintendo Switch". So people can now know you can also play it on the Switch 2. This is just to add extra information for the users, similar to how "Nintendo Switch Online" is noted.

Proposer: Yoshi18 (talk)
Deadline: April 14, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Backwards Compatibility counts

  1. Yoshi18 (talk) Per proposal.

Backwards Compatibility doesn’t really count

  1. Altendo (talk) If backwards compatibility counts, so does other methods to play games via original game media (Super Game Boy, Game Boy Player, etc.). While unrelated, these methods actually allow Super Mario Bros. to be played on every Nintendo system since its creation minus the short-lived Virtual Boy and the Nintendo 64 *cough cough* Guinness World Records claim. Another point to make is that digital rereleases depend on availability, and some games might not be made available on VC and NSO, but in terms of backwards compatibility, all of the games can be played on the successor, with very few exceptions, but in general, the games available outweigh the games unavailable in backwards compatibility, so it would just be easier to state when a game isn't backwards compatible (I'm thinking Nintendo Labo on the Switch 2) or wouldn't have all of the features available on its successor (like GB(A) tilt games that rely on the gyroscope in the Game Pak, which would be inaccurate on a GBASP or DS, and weirdly played on a Game Boy Player). In short, it is already obvious that these games can be played on future generation consoles, and adding them will likely unnecessarily inflate the infobox; it is less obvious for periodical rereleases (like VC and NSO) and for games that aren't backwards compatible or lose out on features on future consoles.
  2. Technetium (talk) Maybe it can be mentioned if a game has a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition, but until we get more info about that, yeah, let's not.
  3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per Technetium; we only really see merit in acknowledging this if it turns out having a Nintendo Switch 2 Edition is like, markedly different from the base Switch release, and even then, only for the Switch 2 Edition.
  4. YoYo (talk) per Altendo.

Comments

I mean, the Switch 2 edition was added for SMPJ, but whether this should be on the standard page or a new page is unknown for me. Altendo 09:23, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

I think I’ll just add the Switch 2 to consoles then and just see what happens. Blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 14:03, April 2, 2025 (EDT)