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Star Bits[edit]

You can break the boulders by spinning the red spot, but only the first three times you do this, you are given Star Bits. After that, nothing. Chomps in the games act similar, but their Star Bit supply gradually runs down from 6 about 5 times, to 1 about twice, then nothing. I am not trying to say Boulders and Chomps are related.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1870163 (talk).

Wario Land[edit]

Is there any official source that says the "boulders" in Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 are actually boulders? The non-spiked ones look to me like giant berries, and the spikes ones just seem to be spiked balls.

Split Ruby Rock from Boulder[edit]

A Yellow Block from Super Mario World This talk page section contains an unresolved talk page proposal. Please try to help and resolve the issue by voting or leaving a comment.

Current time: Monday, April 7, 2025, 11:28 GMT

Different names in various languages including Japanese and Spanish, although both are rocks, one is treated as an obstacle while the other is mentioned as an enemy and acts as one by following certain paths and can be defeated, it also has its own large variant, and that's without having the physical differences, one being a normal boulder and the other one with an embedded ruby, finally, this article talks about the rocks with rubies from SMG and SMG2 exclusively, to avoid confusion.

Proposer: Sorbetti (talk)
Deadline: March 30, 2025, 23:59 GMT Extended to April 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT Extended to April 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Split(Support)[edit]

  1. Sorbetti (talk) Per proposal.
  2. EvieMaybe (talk) i don't like the name argument, but these have a very glaring, obvious, glowing-red difference from your average boulder, one that makes them highly distinctive and changes how you interact with it.
  3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per Evie. We don't particularly buy the naming distinction, but there's a big, bright, glowing, cherry red weakpoint on the idea that these should remain merged. There's an incredibly obvious gameplay difference there. ;P
  4. Jdtendo (talk) The ruby part makes them distinct from regular boulders.

Keep Merged(Oppose)[edit]

  1. Nintendo101 (talk) I'd honestly rather we see the "Rolling Boulder" (including the Ruby Rocks) split from "boulder" (as in, any generic big rocks). I stress this because the Japanese for Ruby Rocks is 「ゴロゴロ岩」(Gorogoro Iwa) more or less meaning "rolling rock." My impression is that the boulders from Super Mario Galaxy are supposed to be the same subject from Super Mario 64, and I would rather they share the same article. I think that would be a more accurate reflection of what the games are trying to do.
  2. PrincessPeachFan (talk): They're the same thing and I don't like the Mario Portal anyways.

Super Mario RPG (talk) Per Nintendo101.

Comments[edit]

@PrincessPeachFan It is not exclusive to Mario Portal, the same Super Mario encyclopedia, although it should not be mentioned, lists them separately, as do other guides.Sorbetti (talk) 13:32, March 17, 2025 (EDT)

So? It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, so it's a duck. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 09:01, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
This is how it works when we don't have official sources, regardless of whether they are similar or not, if Nintendo itself sees them as independent beings from a common Boulder we must separate them, it doesn't matter if they look alike, it doesn't matter if they act similarly, it matters how they are officially recognized and officially through various guides and web pages it is recognized as an enemy, also on the same Boulder page in the languages section it has its own section.Sorbetti (talk) 11:42, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
Only Nintendo of America refers to this subject by a unique name. As relayed in my vote, Nintendo Co., Ltd. - the publisher from Japan - refers to these boulders as "Rolling Rocks," the same name for the rolling rocks in Super Mario 64 and potentially other games. I think they are supposed to be the same thing. - Nintendo101 (talk) 13:17, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
In Spanish it also has its own name, this being "Rocarrueda" something like Rollrock, which although it resembles rolling boulder is differentSorbetti (talk) 17:47, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
Yes, but the people who created this subject speak Japanese. There is usually a little bit of separation between the people who make the games and the people who localize them into other languages. - Nintendo101 (talk) 18:42, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
You know, I completely understand that separation, but I think sometimes it's taken too strictly. I would like to have a discussion about this because at least for me it has generated quite a bit of confusion and questions.Sorbetti (talk) 19:13, March 19, 2025 (EDT)