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{{Minigame-infobox
{{minigame infobox
|image=[[File:GameGuy'sSweetSurpriseMP3.png|260px]]
|image=[[File:MP3 Game Guys Sweet Surprise.png|260px]]
|appeared_in=''[[Mario Party 3]]''
|appears_in=''[[Mario Party 3]]''
|type=[[Game Guy]] mini-game
|type=Game Guy mini-game
|time=10 seconds to select a Chain Chomp
|track=Game Guy Mini-Game
|sample=[[File:Mario Party 3 Music - Game Guy Mini-Game.oga]]
}}
}}
'''Game Guy's Sweet Surprise''' is a [[Game Guy]] [[minigame]] found in ''[[Mario Party 3]]'' for the [[Nintendo 64]].
'''Game Guy's Sweet Surprise''' is a [[Game Guy]] [[minigame]] in ''[[Mario Party 3]]''.


==Gameplay==
==Gameplay==
All the player has to do is to predict which [[Chain Chomp]] can eat their [[cake]] the fastest.
The player simply has to predict which [[Chain Chomp]] will finish eating its [[cake]] first. Before selecting a Chain Chomp, the player can read a description of the Chain Chomps' moods. If the player correctly predicts that the [[Big Chain Chomp|Big Chomp]] will finish first, the player's [[coin]]s are doubled. However, if the player correctly predicts that the [[Chain Chomp#Mario Party 3|Little Chomp]] will finish first, the player's coins are multiplied by an even greater number: either 4, 8, 16, 32, or 64. If the player makes the wrong prediction, they lose all of their coins.


[[Big Chomp and Little Chomp|Big Chomp]] will most likely finish first, and should the player correctly predict that he will win, they will double their coins. However, if the player correctly guesses that [[Big Chomp and Little Chomp|Little Chomp]] will win, their coins will be multiplied by an even greater number; either 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64. Before selecting a Chomp, players can read a description of their moods, which may signify if they're capable of winning, but this isn't always accurate.
==Mechanics==
At the beginning of the minigame, the Big Chomp is always assigned a multiplier of ×2, while the Little Chomp is equally likely to be assigned a multiplier of ×4, ×8, ×16, ×32, or ×64. The probability that the Little Chomp will finish its cake first depends entirely on the multiplier assigned to it. The moods of both Chain Chomps do not affect their likelihood of winning.<ref name=jengerer1>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220315133129/https://www.jengerer.com/big-chomp-and-little-chomp/ Blog post detailing reverse engineering of the mini-game]</ref>


If the player makes the wrong prediction, they lose all their [[coin]]s, as with any Game Guy minigame. The smaller the amount of coins the player has to bet, the more likely it is that the smaller Chomp will win.
At a fixed interval, one of the two Chain Chomps takes a bite of the cake. Below are the probabilities of either Chain Chomp taking a bite of its cake during an interval, based on the multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp:
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Multiplier !! Chance [[File:Big Chomp MP3.png|44px]] takes a bite !! Chance [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]] takes a bite
|-
| ×4 || 50% || 50%
|-
| ×8 || 60% || 40%
|-
| ×16 || 70% || 30%
|-
| ×32 || 80% || 20%
|-
| ×64 || 90% || 10%
|}
 
During the same interval, the Chain Chomp that took a bite has a 40% chance to take a second bite. The first Chomp to take six or more bites wins.<ref name=jengerer1/> This means that the overall probabilities that either Chain Chomp will finish its cake first are as follows, based on the multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp:<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220315133124/http://www.jengerer.com/meet-the-chomps-part-ii/ More precise calculation of overall probability]</ref>
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Multiplier !! Chance [[File:Big Chomp MP3.png|44px]] wins !! Chance [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]] wins
|-
| ×4 || 50.000% || 50.000%
|-
| ×8 || 70.927% || 29.073%
|-
| ×16 || 87.201% || 12.799%
|-
| ×32 || 96.460% || 3.540%
|-
| ×64 || 99.654% || 0.346%
|}
 
==Expected value==
Let ''B'' be the number of coins bet. The following table shows the EV for each multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp, as well as whether the player bets on the Big Chomp or the Little Chomp.
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Multiplier !! Bet on [[File:Big Chomp MP3.png|44px]] !! Bet on [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]] !! Higher EV
|-
| ×4 || 2''B'' × 0.50000 = '''1''B''''' || 4''B'' × 0.50000 = '''2''B''''' || [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]]
|-
| ×8 || 2''B'' × 0.70927 ≈ '''1.419''B''''' || 8''B'' × 0.29073 ≈ '''2.326''B''''' || [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]]
|-
| ×16 || 2''B'' × 0.87201 ≈ '''1.744''B''''' || 16''B'' × 0.12799 ≈ '''2.048''B''''' || [[File:Little Chomp MP3.png|44px]]
|-
| ×32 || 2''B'' × 0.96460 ≈ '''1.929''B''''' || 32''B'' × 0.03540 ≈ '''1.133''B''''' || [[File:Big Chomp MP3.png|44px]]
|-
| ×64 || 2''B'' × 0.99654 ≈ '''1.993''B''''' || 64''B'' × 0.00346 ≈ '''0.221''B''''' || [[File:Big Chomp MP3.png|44px]]
|}
 
If the Little Chomp has a multiplier of ×4 and the player wishes to earn as many coins as possible, they should always bet on the Little Chomp, as it has the same chance of winning as the Big Chomp but double the expected value. At ×8 and ×16, the Big Chomp is much more likely to win a single round, but the Little Chomp has a higher reward in the long run. At ×32 and ×64, the Big Chomp's win rate and expected value are both higher than the Little Chomp's; betting on the Big Chomp in those cases is nearly guaranteed to result in the player doubling their coins.


==Controls==
==Controls==
*{{button|n64|Stickleft}} '''or''' {{button|n64|Stickright}} &ndash; Choose [[Chain Chomp]]
*{{button|n64|Stickleft}} '''or''' {{button|n64|Stickright}} &ndash; Choose Chain Chomp
*{{button|n64|A}} &ndash; Select Chain Chomp
*{{button|n64|A}} &ndash; Select Chain Chomp
==Quotes==
Both Chain Chomps can say anything listed below while the player is choosing one of them. These have no effect on the outcome of the game.
*"''I'm so hungry I could faint...''"
*"''I haven't eaten since this morning.''"
*"''Love that cake!''"
*"''I'm starvin'!''"
*"''Food! Food!!!''"
*"''Feed 'em faster!''"
*"''No...more cake...''"
*"''My tummy hurts...''"
*"''It's too sweet...''"
*"''I like mushrooms more than cake.''"


==In-game text==
==In-game text==
*'''Game Guy''' &ndash; ''"The Big Chomp and the Little Chomp will have a cake-eating race. Predict which one will be the quicker cake eater. If you guess right, you'll get more coins. But, if you guess wrong, your coins will be [[Game Guy|mine]]."''
*'''Game Guy''' &ndash; ''"The Big Chomp and the Little Chomp will have a cake-eating race. Predict which one will be the quicker cake eater. If you guess right, you'll get more coins. But, if you guess wrong, your coins will be mine."''
 
==Gallery==
<gallery>
MP3 GGSS Small Chain Chomp victory.png|A rare case of the Little Chomp winning. The Big Chomp did not even get a chance to bite the cake.
</gallery>


==Names in other languages==
==Names in other languages==
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|Jap=ケーキでバトル
|Jap=ケーキでバトル
|JapR=Kēki de batoru
|JapR=Kēki de batoru
|JapM=Cake Battle}}
|JapM=Battle with Cake
{{MP3 Minigames}}
|Ger=Glücks Guys gute Gabe
[[Category:Mario Party 3 Minigames]]
|GerM=Game Guy's good gift
|Fre=Surprise Sympa de Maskash
|FreM=Game Guy's Sympathic Surprise
|Spa=Sorpresa de Shy Guy
|SpaM=Game Guy's Surprise
}}
 
==References==
<references/>
 
{{MP3 minigames}}
[[Category:Mario Party 3 minigames]]

Latest revision as of 08:42, November 8, 2024

Game Guy's Sweet Surprise
Game Guy's Sweet Surprise: Two differently sized Chain Chomps devouring their own cakes. From Mario Party 3.
Appears in Mario Party 3
Type Game Guy mini-game
Time limit 10 seconds to select a Chain Chomp
Music track Game Guy Mini-Game
Music sample

Game Guy's Sweet Surprise is a Game Guy minigame in Mario Party 3.

Gameplay[edit]

The player simply has to predict which Chain Chomp will finish eating its cake first. Before selecting a Chain Chomp, the player can read a description of the Chain Chomps' moods. If the player correctly predicts that the Big Chomp will finish first, the player's coins are doubled. However, if the player correctly predicts that the Little Chomp will finish first, the player's coins are multiplied by an even greater number: either 4, 8, 16, 32, or 64. If the player makes the wrong prediction, they lose all of their coins.

Mechanics[edit]

At the beginning of the minigame, the Big Chomp is always assigned a multiplier of ×2, while the Little Chomp is equally likely to be assigned a multiplier of ×4, ×8, ×16, ×32, or ×64. The probability that the Little Chomp will finish its cake first depends entirely on the multiplier assigned to it. The moods of both Chain Chomps do not affect their likelihood of winning.[1]

At a fixed interval, one of the two Chain Chomps takes a bite of the cake. Below are the probabilities of either Chain Chomp taking a bite of its cake during an interval, based on the multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp:

Multiplier Chance An icon of the Big Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. takes a bite Chance An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. takes a bite
×4 50% 50%
×8 60% 40%
×16 70% 30%
×32 80% 20%
×64 90% 10%

During the same interval, the Chain Chomp that took a bite has a 40% chance to take a second bite. The first Chomp to take six or more bites wins.[1] This means that the overall probabilities that either Chain Chomp will finish its cake first are as follows, based on the multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp:[2]

Multiplier Chance An icon of the Big Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. wins Chance An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. wins
×4 50.000% 50.000%
×8 70.927% 29.073%
×16 87.201% 12.799%
×32 96.460% 3.540%
×64 99.654% 0.346%

Expected value[edit]

Let B be the number of coins bet. The following table shows the EV for each multiplier assigned to the Little Chomp, as well as whether the player bets on the Big Chomp or the Little Chomp.

Multiplier Bet on An icon of the Big Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. Bet on An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3. Higher EV
×4 2B × 0.50000 = 1B 4B × 0.50000 = 2B An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3.
×8 2B × 0.70927 ≈ 1.419B 8B × 0.29073 ≈ 2.326B An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3.
×16 2B × 0.87201 ≈ 1.744B 16B × 0.12799 ≈ 2.048B An icon of the Little Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3.
×32 2B × 0.96460 ≈ 1.929B 32B × 0.03540 ≈ 1.133B An icon of the Big Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3.
×64 2B × 0.99654 ≈ 1.993B 64B × 0.00346 ≈ 0.221B An icon of the Big Chomp in Game Guy's Sweet Surprise from Mario Party 3.

If the Little Chomp has a multiplier of ×4 and the player wishes to earn as many coins as possible, they should always bet on the Little Chomp, as it has the same chance of winning as the Big Chomp but double the expected value. At ×8 and ×16, the Big Chomp is much more likely to win a single round, but the Little Chomp has a higher reward in the long run. At ×32 and ×64, the Big Chomp's win rate and expected value are both higher than the Little Chomp's; betting on the Big Chomp in those cases is nearly guaranteed to result in the player doubling their coins.

Controls[edit]

  • Control Stick left or Control Stick right – Choose Chain Chomp
  • A Button – Select Chain Chomp

Quotes[edit]

Both Chain Chomps can say anything listed below while the player is choosing one of them. These have no effect on the outcome of the game.

  • "I'm so hungry I could faint..."
  • "I haven't eaten since this morning."
  • "Love that cake!"
  • "I'm starvin'!"
  • "Food! Food!!!"
  • "Feed 'em faster!"
  • "No...more cake..."
  • "My tummy hurts..."
  • "It's too sweet..."
  • "I like mushrooms more than cake."

In-game text[edit]

  • Game Guy – "The Big Chomp and the Little Chomp will have a cake-eating race. Predict which one will be the quicker cake eater. If you guess right, you'll get more coins. But, if you guess wrong, your coins will be mine."

Gallery[edit]

  • A rare case of the Little Chomp winning. The Big Chomp did not even get a chance to bite the cake.

    A rare case of the Little Chomp winning. The Big Chomp did not even get a chance to bite the cake.

Names in other languages[edit]

Language Name Meaning Notes
Japanese ケーキでバトル[?]
Kēki de batoru 		Battle with Cake
French Surprise Sympa de Maskash[?] Game Guy's Sympathic Surprise
German Glücks Guys gute Gabe[?] Game Guy's good gift
Spanish Sorpresa de Shy Guy[?] Game Guy's Surprise

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b Blog post detailing reverse engineering of the mini-game
  2. ^ More precise calculation of overall probability
[Edit]
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