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==New features==
==New features==
===Pie for Everyone. Pie for EVERYONE. Pie. For. ALL.===
I know what you're expecting. It's the first of April, I know many of you hope for one of Ghost Jam's little pie stories. I'm sorry to tell you this, but...this isn't going to be one. Or at least not precisely. If you've jumped straight to this paragraph and didn't look at the proposal title, I'd suggest maybe scrolling down to something else that needs voting on. This is your last chance. Don't look up, don't read on, don't vote. Just either scroll on quickly or close your browser tab.
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My name is Nae. I'm Ghost Jam's partner. You might have noticed his absence the last several weeks. While that in of itself isn't odd behavior for him, he's still normally home at least some of the time. But I haven't seen him either. I was starting to worry, so I poked through his study. I knew this wasn't a good idea. It's an unspoken rule that the untrained don't mess with tools from the unknown. On his desk was a dark leather case with a few files inside. There were several things about this that were strange. Firstly, the case was open. It might be difficult to understand why this is odd, but if you live with someone who dabbles in the ethereal enough, you begin to learn that nothing stays open long. Secondly, the contents appeared be a combination of both paper documents and holo-constructs from a datascape. Thirdly...well, the fact that it was a holo-construct from the infosphere in analog space. That requires either an enormous source of magic or a supreme act of mechanical engineering. But...it was just sitting there, like any old stack of papers. I had to look. Forgive me, I had to look.
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It's too late now, by the way. You can't leave, you can't scroll on. All roads will lead back here.
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As many of you know, Ghost Jam is one of various notable talents thaumaturgical study that find employ in the Infosphere. I knew I shouldn't have looked, he's warned me before that the untrained shouldn't mess with the occult, but I was just so worried. I can only hope that you...and so we're clear, when I say you, I don't mean that in the general, open sense, I'm speaking specifically to ''you'', the one reading this...are strong enough to withstand what is to come. Otherwise we're all in a lot of trouble.
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The following is the content of the file I found.<br>
I really am sorry for this.<br>
But I have to share it.<br>
And now that you've come this far, you have to read it.<br>
There is no choice for either of us now.<br>
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Anomaly #0103-Wiki<br>
Notes - September 2007<br>
This isn't going to read like my normal reports. Normally, I attempt to list the facts of my discovery, rate the danger level and jot down how I plan to handle the problem, perhaps going into more details about collaborations with other thaumaturgical researchers. And trust me when I say, in the days since Porplemontage first gave me access to the datascape, I've discovered several scary...let's call them monsters...down here. But this one is different. This is something big, that broke in from the Infoshpere outside of our little Wiki bubble and began to fester under the weight of information we've piled on over the years. I'm not yet sure where or when it got in, but dealing with it is the first problem to be solved, stopping the spread will be the next.
This...effect, I guess would be the way to think of it, is a meme of sorts that effects users who take on the title of editor, either granted by others or taken by personal choice, and encourages them to add or otherwise embellish false information articles in a given Wiki's database. In the first stages, this is nearly indistinguishable from standard 'new editor' behavior. As the meme takes hold, however, this escalates into anger and destructive behavior. In several cases I've observed, effected users will continue to add false information and argue the point well past a reasonable point. Eventually, and I don't believe this part is an effect of the meme, rather a result of general human frustration, users will begin to not engage effected users and allow the changes they have forced to stay. The transition between these two states seems to happen fairly quickly and is highly contagious. You see, the third stage starts as soon as the changes made by effected users is no longer disputed. At this point, the article becomes an instance of the meme and is capable to spreading it to others. Infection happens instantaneously to anyone who reads the article. User infected with the meme in this way jump directly to the second stage of infection. Really, the contagious part is what makes this thing so scary. I've seen it jump across a few users all ready, but it seems to be...growing, if that makes sense, with each person. I fear that if this isn't gotten under control soon, it could grow large enough to engulf entire userbases in a matter of minutes. I'll see what I can come up with.
Notes - October 2007<br>
I've learned more about this meme, which I'm now calling an infohazzard after some consultation with Foundation researchers. It acts on people knowing about it. Knowing what it does, what it is, causes a person to act out in the way described in my previously submitted notes. However, an knowing about it is only the first part. The second part is taking it seriously. Most individuals take what is given to them at face value and so fall subject to the infohazzards effect. The key, I think, is identifying when the infohazzard is in effect and then finding a way to make people think it's a joke and not worth engaging with.
Notes - November 2007<br>
I think...we've done it. Took some collaboration with some of the other wikis talents, but I believe we have the infohazzard contained and a vaccine being spread. Basically, I created an "serious" proposal with the intent of luring in the infection (about pies, of all things), which I then played off like a joke, the seriousness of the idea being the joke. Once I had confirmed infection (Son of Sons will be missed.....), a framework of paracode created by Wayoshi was set up to act as a kind of cage on the Infosphere side. The cage was then seeded by Walkazo with breed of healing flower she specifically crafted for our needs. While on the analog plane, I tossed a net of thaumaturgical energies around the database entry. In effect, we've locked it down to one place, and, via Walkazo's plants, created a way to spread the 'anti-meme' to anyone who reads the entry. We'll monitor it, but....I think we've got this under control for now.
Note - April 2014<br>
I've been away from the wiki proper for some time now, so I thought it a good idea to check in on the 'cage'. For lack of a less complicated and more precise way to explain this, the cage needed some maintenance. Sadly, Wayoshi has long since left us and we don't any anyone else on hand with the same level of skill in paracode to work out improvements to the cages framework. It took some doing, but I believe the shielding magic Walkazo had learned once assuming her 'Kazo form mixed with stronger 'ropes' in my thaumaturgical net, the framework should hold up. We had to create another joke proposal, however, to make the cage bigger. We'll need to find a new solution, though.
Note - April 2015<br>
We've had to expand the cage again. It's becoming too much and the Walkazo's vaccine is becoming less effective. I've taken my 'net' and anchored it on the analog plane, in the form of, well, forms. I feel rather proud of myself on this one, since the analog plane operates on a different set of physics, so long as the documents stay were I put them, a large chunk of the infection will stay put. Given these additions, we agree that the cage should hold, as is, for at least a few more years. We'll be taking the time to come up something better. We have to.
Notes - The Age of Pies<br>
Pies.
Pies.
Pies.
PIES.
PIES.
P.I.E.S.
Damn it, damn it, hold on.
Ok, here's the deal. The infection has grown too strong to touch, but not strong enough to break the cage. I've had people contacting me near constantly for years with 'new joke ideas' for further pie proposals and the bound document in my office has become a spread vector. Just seeing it compels a person to read it and reading it causes full infection and with a completely new symptom to needing to spread it. I'd rather not pie about how I know about that pie, if you see what I'm pie-ing.
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Crap, this is hard to resist. I'm going to lock this thing up and hope the physical lock holds. If anyone is reading this document, know this: You're screwed. This version of the infection is not like the one you just read about this. This one can't be ignored or make a joke of. It'll spread and you will spread it. However, and this kills me to say, I've come up with the only counter measure I could think of. I've laced this paragraph with a counter-meme or sorts. You'll be compelled to post this to the proposals page first. With any luck, the measures we set up will slow the infection enough to set off the security alarms and get someone on the job.
Pie help you all.
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So there you have it. I can already feel the urge to spread this to other places tapering off...but it's still there. Try to resist, that's my only advice.
For the love of Pie, you have to.
PIE.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Ghost Jam}}<br>
'''Proposed Deadline''': When the deed is done, by the will of PIE.<br>
====Support====
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} Pie
#{{User|Alex95}} - ''I WANT PIE!''
#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} - Pie is the best food ever. Anybody who says otherwise is wrong. :)
#{{User|Niiue}} i demand pie
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Pie is the best! We all need pie!
#{{user|Mario jc}} Sure, I can go for pie.
#{{user|Baby Luigi}} Ладно, почему бы и нет.
====SUPPORT====
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} PIE
====S.U.P.P.O.R.T====
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} P.I.E.
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} I have always been depressed that I was not there to turn the tides of those old PIE proposals. LONG LIVE PIE!!!!
#{{User|Superchao}} It's too late. I can only vote, and hope that I can find a way.
====Praises for the Word of Pie====
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} PRAISE THE PIE
#{{User|Shokora}} &ndash; You got me at the word 'Pie'.
#{{user|Mario jc}} Amen all
#{{user|Waluigi Time}} pie
#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} Pie was created for our sins.


==Removals==
==Removals==

Revision as of 20:15, April 1, 2018

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Current time:
Tuesday, December 3rd, 18:22 GMT
Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • Voting periods last for two weeks, but can close early or be extended (see below).
  • Any autoconfirmed user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so.
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.

Rules

  1. Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
  2. Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
  3. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
  8. If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
    • Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
  9. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  10. If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
  11. If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
    • Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
  12. Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
  13. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  14. After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
  15. If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
  16. Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  17. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  18. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
  19. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  20. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 14 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "December 3, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

  • Move Mysterious Cloud to either Hat cloud or Cap cloud (discuss) Deadline: December 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT
  • Split and trim the Vine article (discuss) Deadline: December 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT
  • Move Bomb (species) to Bomb (Final Fantasy) (discuss) Deadline: December 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT
  • Split the Yoshi's Island teeter-totter from Seesaw (discuss) Deadline: December 16, 2024, 23:59 GMT
  • Move Kolorado's father to Richard or Korvallis (discuss) Deadline: December 17, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)
Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024)
^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024)
Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024)
Use the classic and classic-link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024)
Split articles for the alternate-named reskins from All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 3, 2024)
Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024)
Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024)
Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024)
Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024)
Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024)
^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.
Split off the Mario Kart Tour template(s), MightyMario (ended November 24, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024)
Split Banana Peel from Banana, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2024)
Merge Spiked Thwomp with Thwomp, Blinker (ended November 2, 2024)
Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024)
Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024)
Create articles for "Ashita ni Nattara" and "Banana Tengoku" or list them in List of Donkey Kong Country (television series) songs, Starluxe (ended November 23, 2024)
Determine how to handle the Tattle Log images from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch), Technetium (ended November 30, 2024)
Merge False Character and Fighting Polygon/Wireframe/Alloy/Mii Teams into List of Super Smash Bros. series bosses, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended December 2, 2024)

List of talk page proposals

Template:TPPDiscuss Template:TPPDiscuss Template:TPPDiscuss

Unimplemented proposals

# Proposal User Date
1 Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series Aokage (talk) January 3, 2015
2 Create a template for the Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door badge drop rates Lord Bowser (talk) August 17, 2016
3 Split all remaining courts and boards from their parent articles NSY (talk) September 25, 2016
4 Clean up species categories to only include non-hostile species Niiue (talk) August 8, 2017
5 Clean up Category:Artifacts Niiue (talk) August 22, 2017
6 Trim down Category:Fire Creatures and Category:Ice Creatures Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) September 7, 2017
7 Give the Nintendo Switch buttons in Template:Button better color resolution Eldritchdraaks (talk) December 18, 2017
8 Expand the Behemoth King article Owencrazyboy9 (talk) December 23, 2017
9 Create articles on the Remix 10 secret courses in Super Mario Run Time Turner (talk) December 26, 2017
10 Add anchor links to Power Moon lists (view progress) Super Radio (talk) December 31, 2017
11 Create articles for the Wario: Master of Disguise episodes DKPetey99 (talk) January 23, 2018
12 Remove bolded text from image captions Time Turner (talk) February 11, 2018
13 Create articles for the Mario Party 4 hosts Tails777 (talk) February 11, 2018
14 Give the Cap Kingdom objectives proper coverage YoshiFlutterJump (talk) February 16, 2018
15 Create a template for FA archives Toadette the Achiever (talk) February 18, 2018

Writing guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

Removals

Remove the above pie proposal

The above, because pie is not fly. Pizza beatsya. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:51, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick
Deadline: When the pie hits your eye, like the moon in the sky.

I Support This

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)Pai must dai
  2. Super Radio (talk) There is no need to enforce such a lousy regulation upon other users. Vandalism is vandalism! You can't stop it.

I Believe Hotel Mario is far Better than Super Mario Odyssey will ever be!

  1. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) Template:Media link is better and I hope she made lotsa Spaghetti!
  2. LuigiMaster123 (talk) I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Comments

Note: Subjects who opposed the P.I.E. proposal were later terminated upon discovery that they had accessed prohibited files in the database only designated to supreme-class personnel. They were later un-redacted when the Supreme Thwomp Overlords devoured the souls of the supreme-class personnel for not delivering them their feather duster tribute. The proposer was then resurrected in the form of Template:Media link.

Changes

Add a section to MarioWiki:Naming regarding technical restrictions

I'm surprised no one has talked in depth about this yet. Sure, we don't have that many technically restricted names, but we still have some, so I think we should set in stone a policy for these titles. Take the castle levels from Super Mario World as an example. "#1 Iggy's Castle" is located at "Iggy's Castle" rather than "1 Iggy's Castle"; while the former title is fine, it might still cause some initial confusion for the newer readers. Basically, what I'm proposing is that we start officially use closely-matched titles for subjects if the correct title is technically restricted.

A draft of the proposed text can be found here.

Also, if you're wondering, Porplemontage green-lighted this proposal.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Per proposal.
  3. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) Per proposal.
  4. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
  5. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per proposal.
  6. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Sounds good to me! Per proposal.
  7. Mister Wu (talk) Considering that we can't use the actual name, the closest match surely makes sense.
  8. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all, this just seems like the sensible thing to do anyway.
  9. Baby Luigi (talk) Per all.
  10. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) The proposal is about allowing as many characters in the original title as possible, if the suggested title has technical issues. When such a case occurs, use the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} MediaWiki Magic Word to correct the title. # in URLs are used for linking to headers in a page name, like this example. Even forcing URL encoding brings up an error. [1] I couldn't get MediaWiki to parse this normally, so a forced URL is used to demonstrate.

Oppose

Comments

So if this succeeds, what will happen to the Iggy's Castle article? (Also, remind me for when I start my own franchise, to name a character "<[[#klunk]]>''," symbols included, just to mess with the ensuing wiki.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:04, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

It'll be moved to "1 Iggy's Castle", with the display title unchanged so it still shows the proper title. MediaWiki doesn't like certain symbols in page titles, so have fun with that hypothetical wiki if it comes ;) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:09, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

Just thought about it but how about a notice template for such pages? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 17:00, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

That's not needed unless even {{DISPLAYTITLE}} cannot display the correct title. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 10:56, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

Give the seven boss Tikis from DKCR their own articles

Because the rest of their official names have just been discovered in a datamine of the original game.

Proposer: BooDestroyer (talk)
Deadline: April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. BooDestroyer (talk) Need I say more?
  2. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) These guys are like the Seven Notorious Koopalings. Each one not only has a name, but is also a character and a boss. It’s not quite like Gary or Johnson (whose articles SHOULD be deleted) or even the Sammer Guys. The Tikis are characters—major boss characters at that, and not just minor NPCs. One of them, Kalimba, even has a Smash 4 trophy. And the fact that the Tikis only appear in a single DK game should not stop us from giving them articles.

Oppose

  1. Time Turner (talk) A name, in and of itself, is not enough to substantiate having separate articles (see: List of Sammer Guys). Is there another reason they should have articles?
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Per Time Turner. They may all have a name, but they aren't diverse enough (they all do the exact same thing) to justify individual articles.
  3. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per Time Turner.
  4. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per all. Plus, they're not even fought normally at all, which that case would guarantee articles.

Comments

I forgot to mention, but in order, they're called: Kalimba, Maraca Gang, Gong-Oh, Banjo Bottom, Wacky Pipes, Xylobone, and Cordian. BooDestroyer (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

@YoshiFlutterJump They are different from the Koopalings in that the Koopalings are:

  • A: Bosses themselves
  • B: Characters with actual personality

also, why should Gary or Johnson not have articles? They deserve articles as much as Otto or Heronicus. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:05, 30 March 2018 (EDT)

Let me tell you one thing. The Seven Notorious Koopalings (that’s what Minion Quest calls them) hardly had personalities before Paper Jam (to the extent of having NO dialogue), and we had articles for them long before then. While the Tikis are not bosses, they possess bosses and are key to the story. As for your second point...minor NPCs shouldn’t get articles just because they have names. The Tikis are not minor, though. -YFJ (talk · edits) 23:18, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Even just regarding Super Mario Bros. 3, the Koopalings had enough diversity to justify their own articles if the wiki was around then. They each had the same role, but different names and abilities. Regarding the SMB3 cartoon as well, they also had different personalities. The same cannot be said for these Tikis.
Gary and Johnson, according to MarioWiki:Minor NPCs, their articles are valid. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:23, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Saying the Koopalings didn't have personalities before Paper Jam is outright wrong, remember their individual speech balloons in the SMB3 manual? The depictions in the cartoons and comics? Their pre-battle behavior in NSMBW? The Tikis all act exactly the same, and are only ever on screen for like 5 seconds each, and have no dialog. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2018 (EDT)

I fail to see how character personalities is any sort of viable argument against article creation. I can get on board with their extremely minor role and their appearance, but not their personality. BabyLuigiFire.pngRay Trace(T|C) 00:54, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

I should point out one thing: we don’t even have an article for them as a group. Tiki Tak Tribe just covers every enemy in the game, and is not devoted to the boss Tikis. At the very least, we need an article for them as a group. -YFJ (talk · edits) 13:19, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

Create administrative position of SUPREME

I think it’s time to rethink the balance of power on this wiki. The administrative staff does not hold enough power. Sure, they can delete pages, block users, and such. But they can’t control each individual user. And control is the key.

Likewise, the ordinary users have far too much power. All on their own, they make huge changes to pages and even the wiki as a whole, simply because it’s something the majority agrees on—and sometimes changes are made outright without any consultation at all! (The moving of Off Wave to Off Waves is a prime example. Such an act really should have been discussed at the very least!)

Therefore, I propose that a new position be established: SUPREME (Super-Ultimate Presiding Ruler of the Entire MarioWiki Empire). I also propose that I myself be made first SUPREME, of which there is only one of at a time. This would give me complete control over everything wiki-related. I would have access to the source code, for one thing, and be able to control what privileges any given user has. I believe I am fully qualified for this great responsibility. After all, I decided a long time ago that I was admin material. And who better to decide who’s admin material than the future SUPREME?

What cause do you have to support this radical plan? Well, think about it. You would no longer have to shoulder the responsibilities of making your own decisions! You could live the Mario-related part of your life in total IQ-dropping bliss! Still skeptical? Don’t worry. Every person who supports me will receive…(drum roll please)…

A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF WAFFLES!

And not just any waffles! Pick any topping! Any flavor! Strawberries! Cheesecake! Syrup! Chocolate! Charcoal! And dare I suggest it…FAWFUL WAFFLES!!!

Of course, I would recognize all who supported me through my years on the wiki. Alex95, for example, would be promoted to position of Captain of the Guard. As a Patroller, he has proven to be quite adept at apprehending vandals. Yoshi the SSM would become Chief Secretary and Treasurer, and Luigi 64DD’s status as a Critic Corner writer would make him a valuable Critical Analyzer and Advisor. Porplemontage, of course, would be given the option either to retire with a large severance package (of waffles), or stay on as Prime Minister, with access to source code and semi-limited control over users.

Of course, this new system may take some getting used to. But you’ll find that sacrificing every bit of freedom and individuality you have was the best decision you ever made! And when you see me at my coronation, my green-and-black crown being lowered onto my electrified head, you’ll think, “I did this! I supported Ultimate Mr. L! I saved the Super Mario Wiki!”

If you want to think at all, that is.

NOTE: If you or a user you know happens to be a pig, it’s only fair to warn you that not only are pigs not tolerated in the New MarioWiki Empire, they are also Warned, Blocked, Baconized, and mixed in with waffles.

Proposer: Ultimate Mr. L (talk)
Deadline: April 14, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) How can anyone say no to a ruler like me? (Or to waffles)
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Fear me, plebeians.
  3. Baby Luigi (talk) Only if I get to be in that position of power.
  4. Tails777 (talk) I'm literally only here because that Supreme acronym is supremely impressive. Also, there was something about free waffles?
  5. Waluigi Time (talk) Per Baby Luigi.
  6. Keegster2 (talk) I am certainly a man who can appreciate power AND waffles. (But to be serious, I like how unlike the rest of this wiki's "jokes", this one doesn't resort to "oh man being offensive for the sake of funny".)

Oppose

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Ze pigs must eat ze waffles. Zat is ze balance of ze nature, just as ze Pinky Kong is ze Stinky Kong.
  2. WaluigiMaster123 (talk) - I prefer pancakes. :/
  3. Drago (talk) - Nice try. :) But this is still a joke proposal that would be unacceptable if it wasn't April 1. Besides, I have no interest in waffles. :/
  4. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) French Toast.
  5. TheFlameChomp (talk) I don't like waffles.

Comments

I disagree with the flagrant misuse of the word "supreme" in this proposal, as it will anger our Supreme Thwomp Overlords. As demonstrated by exhibit QRTN (nicknamed "Quarantine"), Thwomps have the secret ability to devour souls if displeased, and can only be appeased with a payment of ten coins down, and a coin a minute, or a substitute payment of ten billion feather dusters. That being said, there is still the fact that waffles are awful, Fawful wants falafel. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:50, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

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