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Metal Mario (character)

Can you change all instances of [[Metal Mario (character)|Metal Mario]] to just [[Metal Mario]]? Thanks in advance. - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Identifiers

Hey I saw you were able to make it so infoboxes displayed the identifier-less title for pages with identifiers, without the need for the |title= parameter. How did you manage to do that exactly? (and does this mean we can get rid of |title= entirely?) Somethingone (talk) 06:38, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

I did this by deploying {{PAGETITLE}} as a drop-in replacement for {{PAGENAME}}. There's no need to get rid of the title parameter, as there are still some cases where it's needed, but those instances are now much rarer. --Steve (talk) 09:07, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

Regarding the Mario Kart console abbreviation title thing

Okay, so I finally have a grasp on how I should argue for doing away with console abbreviations on titles of Mario Kart courses.

Take a look at this op-ed analysis by Ahemtoday (talk), where they argue, in summary, that the current titles for the variations of Mario Kart Tour courses returning in the Booster Course Pass are too confusing to use as article titles because a potential reader wouldn't guess that the article at, say, the Tokyo Blur title is actually one of four Mario Kart Tour variations, and that the article at the Tour Tokyo Blur title is for the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe variation.

I now realize that another good example comes to mind: the Donut Plains race courses from Super Mario Kart. Currently they're located at "SNES Donut Plains [number]", which is technically correct. However, there are also the articles located at "Donut Plains [number]" for the names of specific levels in Super Mario World. Since Super Mario World and Super Mario Kart are both SNES games, the "SNES" part could refer to either set of subjects, meaning they should receive proper disambiguation instead of forcing new readers to potentially do a double-take.

Thoughts worth considering perhaps. ^(T|C) 00:08, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

The {{about}} template solves both of these problems. If the user ends up in the wrong place, then the about template is the tool we use to guide them, and whether they're clicking on "Tokyo Blur (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)" or "Tour Tokyo Blur", "Donut Plains 1 (race course)" or "SNES Donut Plains 1", it isn't going to make a huge difference to them. But for our purposes, we certainly prefer to use the more-official name that appears in-game and in marketing materials than a wikified identifier name. It's really quite alright if the user has to read the about template or the first sentence of the article to figure out what's going on, that is valid and it's why we have the about template in the first place. --Steve (talk) 01:58, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Considering my own post is what (re)started this conversation in the first place, I feel a bit obligated to weigh in - although I only really have a firm stance on the MK8 Tour tracks and not Archivist Toadette's larger point. The reason I think this situation may warrant a deviation from convention is that this is the first time this prefix is being used to distinguish an article about a course's reappearance from its original appearance. While they are officially listed as Tour Tokyo Blur and Tour Paris Promenade, it's not in a context where it's used to set the course apart from its original. If anything, these course prefixes serve to highlight and describe the original. My point is: these two articles are using this naming scheme to disambiguate in a way it wasn't designed to, and in a way that it isn't used officially. I don't believe the result of this is ideal for the end user. Ahemtoday (talk) 03:50, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Internal name template

Hey, is there a way to make the internal name template automatically apply <tt></tt> to the file parameter, like how it automatically italicizes the Japanese romanizations in the foreign name template? Somethingone (talk) 15:19, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

It's best not to, since if you need to include a reference, or some context such as parenthesis after the filename, that would get included in the <tt> as well. --Steve (talk) 15:26, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

Question about image thumbnails

Do you know why thumbnails of JPG images look blurry, even when the image viewed at full size is not? Take my sandbox for example. The image on the bottom is just the image on the top converted to PNG, so it's not actually any different in quality than the JPG, yet the JPG (top) looks blurrier than the PNG (bottom) when thumbnailed. I don't know how it looks from your computer, but here's how it looks from mine (the difference is easier to notice when zoomed in, though it's there regardless) so you know what I'm talking about. 18:03, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

PNG tries to save every detail when generating thumbs, while JPG is heavily compressed and details are lost. That's also why there's a significant difference in the thumb file sizes. --Steve (talk) 18:46, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

The second archive of Electrical Bowser jr. user talk

Hello Porplemontage. First off, I wanted to say thank you for merging my account into Electrical Bowser jr.. I would like to ask if you could restore my second page of user talk as Electrical Bowser jr., from later 2012 to 2013, as Archive 2.

Thanks, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:11, June 7, 2022 (EST)

Thank you again, since you did this. Electrical Bowser jr., 22:28, June 7, 2022 (EST)

My pleasure. --Steve (talk) 22:40, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

Last request related to Electrical Bowser jr.

Hi Porplemontage, I greatly appreciate your work to merge my account back to Electrical Bowser jr.. The last thing was wondering was if you could merge my old 2012-2014 userpage history as Electrical Bowser jr. in to my account now, and if not, if you could create a separate page as an archive or something else for my userpage history almost a decade ago.

Have a good night and thanks for reading and your work, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:13, June 8, 2022 (EST)

Odd rewrite-expand templates

On pages such as the Kamek and Invincible Mario pages, the tag dates now appear as the reasons. Do you know why this is happening? WildWario (talk) 03:34, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

He made some modifications to the tag’s template. Now you can add a reason in the first parameter (without the need of a “reason” variable) while the date parameter comes second. This caused the data in some tags to swap around. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:07, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. I noticed that we have 247 cases of ==Name in other languages==, which would normally be ==Names in other languages==. Would it be a good idea to replace them with a bot? --Dine2017 (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Order of interwiki links

Hi. Is there any way to list the sidebar interwiki links in a consistent order, regardless of their position in the source? The current ordering is a bit inconsistent (compare SNES Battle Course 1 and SNES Battle Course 4). -Dine2017 (talk) 03:51, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Would you mind changing Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen! to Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen! in the mainspace and File namespace?

I believe there is no false positive in the File namespace and the only one in the mainspace is the interwiki link [[it:Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen!]] of the subject itself. --Dine2017 (talk) 10:36, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Replacing instances of "NS" with "Switch"

do it for "Category:Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (NS) images" too pls :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:49, August 23, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Would you mind changing ==Reference== to ==References==? I believe there are currently 152 instances of the former. --Dine2017 (talk) 09:50, August 26, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Could you change

[[List of games# followed by four digits

to

[[List of games by date# followed by the same digits

These changes target things like this:

|first_appearance=''[[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]'' ([[List of games#1996|1996]])
|latest_appearance=''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions]]'' ([[List of games#2017|2017]])

--Dine2017 (talk) 01:19, August 30, 2022 (EDT)

Bot work again

Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of {{button|ns| to {{button|switch|? Thanks! ^(T|C) 08:23, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

I ran this when I updated the template. Where are you seeing the old syntax? EDIT: Found some that were missed and fixed them. --Steve (talk) 08:44, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

{{hover}}

Hi. Regarding your recent use of the bot to propagate the {{hover}} template, there are still a few cases which can be covered.

By the way, SMW:JP#General rules is still instructing editors to use the old syntax -- does that need to be updated too? --Dine2017 (talk) 09:23, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Finished the proposal railing against Mario Kart console abbreviation titles

You can view it here. ^(T|C) 15:44, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

Where's the proposed solution? I can image you'd want to move Wii Maple Treeway to Maple Treeway, but what about something like SNES Rainbow Road? Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart) doesn't work since it appears in multiple games in addition to Super Mario Kart; perhaps Rainbow Road (SNES)?

I suppose that could be two separate options. "Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart)" might actually work in theory (contrary to your claim) since it originates from Super Mario Kart and would be differentiated from other courses in the same series; as an example, we already have Warp Space (Mario Party 4) differentiated from Warp Space (Mario Party 10) despite the former space also appearing in Mario Party: Island Tour. ^(T|C) 15:58, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

Oh yeah I talked about that in my last comment here. I will move those away from game identifiers since the appear in multiple games. --Steve (talk) 16:04, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

To briefly delve into that other topic though, what other possible identifier could be used for the two Warp Spaces? They have distinguishing functions so specific (to another player's space vs. to another Warp Space) that I don't think type identifiers would work in that case. ^(T|C) 16:08, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

"Category:Kinder Chocolate images" & "Category:Artwork by Masanori Sato"

Can you please move these to "Category:Kinder images" and "Category:Masanori Sato images"? "Kinder Chocolate" is the name of a particular line of products under the Kinder brand, not the brand itself, and the current wiki coverage of Kinder doesn't concern it. The other category is named so because, I think, at the time I created it, I wasn't aware the titles of the other "Images by artist" categories had been recast; I apologise for that. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:37, September 30, 2022 (EDT)

Chuckster

Forgive me if this is off the beaten path, but is it true you once said "chuckster" should be split from Pianta? Just want to make sure the latter comment of this proposal stands. Nightwicked Bowser 06:15, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

Yes that's true, and that piece of porplemontage lore can be found here. In general I'm pro-split (I'd rather have many smaller articles with some breathing room than big articles where you have to hunt down the information), and especially so when a subject has a distinct name or term for it. Here's our average Google position for the query "chuckster" (1 is best). After being brutally owned by FANDOM for years (since their article came first), we've actually been creeping up the past few months and could be on the cusp of something great. A merge to Pianta would be a surrender in this fight since having an article with the matching title is what allows it to be close in the first place. I encourage everyone to be mindful of how discrete articles help search engine discoverability before voting to merge any article, not just chuckster. --Steve (talk) 11:17, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

As of now I'm not firm on one option or the other in that proposal (inclined towards keeping chucksters split), but I really don't think search rankings make a particularly strong argument in the face of an encyclopedia's bid for veracity. I really don't mean to offend, but given your position as site proprietor I'm assuming ulterior motives with this proposition. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 11:45, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

I guess the reason I provide this info is for some broader context. The wiki doesn't exist in a vacuum. The real-world truth is that people find our articles through Google, and I thought our editors liked having their work found and read, liked outperforming FANDOM, etc. If these things aren't of significant importance or persuasive to you then so be it. --Steve (talk) 12:31, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

MarioWiki:Article size

Hey can you remove the part on this policy that says "This policy does not apply to list or table pages such as Places and Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl), just actual articles."? my proposal to remove that text passed but I can't edit the page. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 11:05, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Thanks so much. Don't know why that outdated exception existed in the first place, but I'm glad it's gone! ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 11:13, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Furigana

A while ago, you had <span class="explain"title="[H]">[K]</span> replaced with {{hover|[K]|[H]}} which I thought was more accessible. However, I wasn't aware that the wiki was capable of displaying furigana properly until I noticed it here, where it seems to look like <rb>K</rb><rt>H</rt>. Would you be able to script something conveniently similar to hover but explicitly meant for showing furigana? Also, on a semi-related note, do you have any thoughts on this? LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:06, November 30, 2022 (EST)

So now we have {{hover|[K]|[H]}} ([K]) and {{ruby|[K]|[H]}} ([K][H]). Should be easy enough to switch between them. I don't have a preference for which is used or any thoughts on the diff you've linked since I'm out of my depth when it comes to Japanese :) --Steve (talk) 10:49, November 30, 2022 (EST)

Fix the Rename template

Will you please do me a favor and replace {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]]) with {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]])}} on the {{move}} template? GuntherBayBeee

Ruby

Minor issue but is there any way to code Template:Ruby so that when you highlight it the hirigana doesn't get highlighted along with the kanji, like how it happened with Template:Hover? ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 18:12, January 7, 2023 (EST)

Yeah I don't think that worked, I can still highlight the hirigana when the ruby template is used. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 08:40, January 8, 2023 (EST)

I added the special Safari CSS for it, but it doesn't seem to actually work, so that one's on Apple --Steve (talk) 09:10, January 8, 2023 (EST)

Template:WWGIT fit pipes

I made this template to check whether a given value matches a character's name when called in Template:WWGIT fit (the "parent" template) and decide whether to create a piped link based on that. However, it appears that, whenever the parent template locates a true #ifeq expression from "WWGIT fit pipe", it splices the second entered string and the truth value to create the link instead of using just the truth value, e.g. for "Young Cricket", the link becomes "Young CricketYoung Cricket & Master Mantis" instead of Young Cricket & Master Mantis. Do you know what causes this? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:27, January 20, 2023 (EST)

Proposal approval

There's a proposal that is a week old. Maybe you should approve it. GuntherBayBeee

If there's a proposal that's past the deadline date, you can archive it yourself. Nightwicked Bowser 12:20, February 3, 2023 (EST)

Your thoughts on Visual Editor

Just for the record, is it possible to make a Visual Editor for this wiki, and do you think it is or isn't a good idea? Just asking because of the situation that was brought up in this currently active proposal regarding the topic. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 13:12, February 25, 2023 (EST)

It's not currently technically feasible. I've done testing with it on the wiki, and trying to visual-edit large articles like Mario caused server CPU usage to spike and the visual editor eventually hit a 30-second timeout. Not good for server stability. However, I'm planning on migrating the site to an upgraded server early next year. I think there's a good chance it will be doable on the new hardware, but I have to test it first.

In terms of want/desire for it, I'm not really a huge fan, but if it runs well on the new server and the community wants it, then I think we can make it work. One aspect of it is TemplateData, which makes templates user-friendly to visual editor users. If we do decide to install the visual editor, then we should take it seriously and plan on adding TemplateData to as many of our templates as we can. This is a project I'd like the proposer and community to keep in mind when voting and help with if it were to pass.

So I guess the order has to be this: 1) Wait until the new server in 2024. 2) I'll test the visual editor and see if performance is acceptable. 3) If it's doable, community proposal and discussion on the matter can proceed. --Steve (talk) 15:34, February 25, 2023 (EST)

Visual Editor proposal

Commenters at the Visual Editor proposal made a good point that I should have asked you first if this proposal is acceptable or not. If not, I'm ready to cancel it. Spectrogram (talk) 07:41, February 26, 2023 (EST)

Yes, based on the above section it will have to be canceled now, with the possibility of revisiting next year. --Steve (talk) 10:57, February 26, 2023 (EST)

Question

Hi there, This user threatened to report me if I undo their edits. It stemmed from a misunderstanding over at the Mario Mover Gallery. It truly was not my intention to cause any trouble, I'm just doing my best to clarify the context of the art. I have also messaged a couple of pratrollers about it, but have not heard anything back. I don't want to come across as spamming this message, I just wanted to get the word out and I don't want to cause anymore trouble. Thank you and hope everything can be sorted out!

Sdman213 (talk) 10:26, March 9, 2023 (EST)

Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day

Hello Porplemontage, Happy Mario Day! I want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 36.85.218.108 00:00, March 10, 2023 (EST)

Mario Day ended, but I still want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 36.85.218.108 00:00, March 11, 2023 (EST)

CSS table width

Hi. This edit forced tables to appear 1px narrower than their natural width. It seems that this hack was added to fix something, but unfortunately it caused another problem:

{| class=wikitable
! Test 1
| The quick brown fox
|}

normally displays as

+--------+---------------------+
| Test 1 | The quick brown fox |
+--------+---------------------+

Now it displays as something like

+------+----------------------+
| Test | The quick brown      |
|  1   | fox                  |
+------+----------------------+

To see the effect on real articles, see Three Beautiful Sisters#Felissa T. At least on my computer (Chrome on Windows 10) the "ー[1]" of "チェリー[1]" is moved one line down, even though the page is wide enough to set the name horizontally. Is there any way to avoid this? --Dine2017 (talk) 23:04, March 31, 2023 (EDT)

SmashWiki seems to have problems with internet trolls using ip addresses to repeatedly ban evade and vandalize.

Given that many Discord servers require a phone number before you can post in them, how would it be easy to require each account and IP address here to submit sensitive personal info such as bank card numbers, drivers license or government issued ID or phone numbers in order to edit?

MarioWiki itself wouldn’t use the data for any reason outside of logging it in a database to auto detect bans. Would it be difficult to verify info such as if bank numbers is real or something or would it result in hackers who hack into MarioWiki itself gaining access to your data?

This would also ensure that if an user is banned here, then tries to edit using an IP address, the info they provide would automatically flag and ban them instead of us having to do the annoying process of detecting if they are the same user.

Remembered Old Buddy 10:04, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

There are many things that can be done to lock-down a wiki, but generally a conscious decision is made to keep things open and revert vandalism rather than have a restrictive system. --Steve (talk) 10:52, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

MarioWiki Namespace Shortcuts

Why exactly were all the "MW:[TEXT]" redirects removed? I see the bot moved all instances of them to a "SMW:[TEXT]" title, but that also doesn't show up in the search results. Never mind, they still exist. They just don't pop up in the search bar unless you type the full thing anymore.^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 16:50, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement

Can you change all instances of [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario & Yoshi's Adventure Land images]] to [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario to Yoshi no Bōken Land images]]? There are 51 images under the old category. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:43, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Age template

I had an idea to update the template, also I updated on Wikipedia a bit. I believe there are more users that born in 1999 than 1989 on this wiki. Which is better, 1972 at time of 1986, or 1999 at time of 2013? Whether the status quo is better? Windy (talk) 18:06, April 26, 2023 (EDT)

Since it's just an example, it doesn't really matter what years are used, so it's fine to leave as-is. --Steve (talk) 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

pls halp

How do I change the colour of image frames in my monobook? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:27, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

Edit: And is it possible to change the colour of the navigation/tool boxes on the left side of the web page? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:33, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

I suggest you familiarize yourself with your browser's "inspect element" (Ctrl+Shift+C) to see what selector MediaWiki uses for styling a given element.

div.thumbinner {
	color: white;
	border-color: red;
	background-color: blue;
}

body.skin--responsive .pBody,
body:not(.skin--responsive) .pBody {
	border-color: green;
	background-color: orange;
}

And in case you didn't know, "Show preview" can be used on your CSS page to test changes to elements visible on that page. --Steve (talk) 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

And I suggest you drop the condescending attitude. I know about the preview function on that page, the problem is that there are many elements that cannot be previewed in there, and no "Preview X page" exists on my end to aid me with that (templates have it, on the other hand). The only conducive thing I could do was repeatedly save my changes. I'm also using inspect element on the regular when I extract certain web content for documentation, it just didn't occur to me I could do so here too... -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:59, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not trying to have any attitude; sorry if it came off that way. --Steve (talk) 09:03, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

My reaction was overblown. I construed the previewing function as obvious enough not to merit an explanation, hence why I thought you were being facetious with that piece of advice, but I've come to accept that you were genuinely trying to help. I was an asshat. Please accept my sincere apologies. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:17, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

All good! --Steve (talk) 09:53, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement

Can you make the following changes:

• [[Ashley & Red|Ashley]] into [[Ashley]]
• [[Ashley & Red|Red]] into [[Red (WarioWare series)|Red]]

As of this moment, 283 pages still link to Ashley & Red and the above changes should take care of most of them. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, May 15, 2023 (EDT)

Help

Some of users seem that dissatisfied with editing the year from the age template from SmashWiki. A conflict of opinion has occured. Please help. Also, please unprotect the age template from this wiki. ADD: The template is too outdated and I updated it. (In Wikipedia, it was written in 2006, but this is so obsolete that it needs an update in our wiki. Here) Windy (talk) 07:4409:33, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

A decision has been made. Let's set as August 12, 2005, Mariowiki's found date, as an example of an Age template. And the second date is 35th anniversary of Super Mario Bros. date, September 13, 2020. Example: {{age|August 12, 2005|September 13, 2020}} Windy (talk) 10:36, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

On this wiki, the template will remain protected and any changes to the example will be the staff's decision to make. Please do not suggest any more changes to it. On SmashWiki, you should listen to the admins. --Steve (talk) 12:55, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you for change to more important date on Mariowiki! I'll look for a suitable answer on Smashwiki. Windy (talk) 13:14, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

After block expired on Smashwiki, I didn't checked the messages from Discord (before joining), and I said nonsense on talk page and I was blocked with unpleasant remarks. My weird obsession with that template must be gone off. Can I ask you one thing; can you update and protect the template from Smashwiki? I couldn't sleep properly. I'll listen to what the admin says. Thank you. Windy (talk) 10:50, June 2, 2023 (EDT)

I will leave that to the SmashWiki admins to decide. Let's try to keep this talk page focused on the Super Mario Wiki; any SmashWiki matters should stay on SmashWiki. Thanks! --Steve (talk) 12:46, June 2, 2023 (EDT)

I'll focus on this wiki and not to deviate from it. However, I can't say anything because I'm afraid that I'll be cussed by admins, please quietly improve any templates across multiple wikis. Thanks for discussion. Windy (talk) 13:10, June 2, 2023 (EDT)

Proposal on allowing fanon content

Last year on June 18, the Drawn to Life Wiki allowed fanon content on that wiki under the Fanon namespace. This time, I want to make a proposal on allowing fanon content on the Super Mario Wiki. You will be able to either create the "Fanon:Home" namespace if you want to or know how to create custom namespaces or create "MarioWiki:Fanon" if you cannot create any new namespaces. Lastly, the Content category will receive a subcategory known as Category:Fanon, which consists of the subcategories Category:Original characters, Category:Theories, Category:Alternate universes, Category:Fanfiction, and, via the {{fanon-image}} template, Category:Fanon images. For example, fanon pages respectively about moves, galleries, events, game mechanics, diseases, bestiaries, histories, pre-release and unused content, staff, consoles, and implied elements each belong to the "Theories" category, fanon pages respectively about characters, allies, and bosses belong to the "Original characters" category, fanon pages about third-party elements belong to the "Alternate universe" category, and fanon pages about fan history and fan-made media belong to the "Fanfiction" category. May I please make the proposal on allowing fanon content on the wiki? GuntherBayBeee 15:30, June 5, 2023 (EDT)

Unfortunately that would be a potentially big scope expansion into a content area that I'm just not looking to get the wiki involved with, so I'm sorry to say I would veto that proposal. I would encourage the Pikipedia/Pikmin Fanon model and go for a separate wiki. Check out the NIWA Discord server or maybe a site like Miraheze to get started. --Steve (talk) 16:10, June 5, 2023 (EDT)

Democracy

I checked who the proprietor is and I found it is you. My proposal got closed because they say it's your decision, and I'm beginning to worry that democracy here is under threat. As a consequence, please let me make a proposal where consensus will decide if you should add cat photos to your userpage. CoolNintendo (talk) 10:42, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oh sorry i read rule 17, never mind i can respect that CoolNintendo (talk) 10:49, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Hidden orphaned pages

Hello! As of now, Special:LonelyPages is empty. However, there is a slight problem with that. It appears it considers any page "not orphaned" that is linked to from other namespaces outside of (Main) or Gallery: (File:, User:, Talk:, etc). The pages that are actually orphaned, that are only linked to from file descriptions or talk page discussions, simply don't show up. Would it be possible for you to change that? Thanks in advance, Spectrogram (talk) 14:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I might be able to do this, not sure, but if I am then I'll implement it. --Steve (talk) 20:54, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Unusual bot request

Hello, I made a couple mistakes in the documentation while mass-uploading some .gifs. Can we have

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order 1-2-3-4-3-2, frame delay 13)

changed to

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2, frame delay 13)

and

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order (1*6)-2-3-(4*6), frame delay 13)

changed to

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order (1*6)-2-3-4-(5*6), frame delay 13)

? Thanks. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

While on that subject, is there any way to make the "upload by URL" not automatically populate (and irreversibly overwrite) the filename bar? Because when uploading via discord link (which I do frequently), all that does is add two extra steps to an already tedious process where I have to move it to the file description section to avoid it being lost. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:25, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Unfortunately that's very much a built-in MediaWiki thing, but I did have an idea for you. You could temporarily disable your browser's JavaScript next time you have a batch of uploads to prevent the autofill from happening. --Steve (talk) 20:54, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Template question

Hello,

Let's say I have a template with three parameters, designated A, B, and C. When I give them values, the template produces the following:

This is a two-column list
A B	C

Now, if I give B and C values but I don't give parameter A any value, I want the values of B and C to move one space up the list, such that B supersedes A, and C moves to the left column, like so:

This is a two-column list
B C

How do I program a template to do this? If I just nest "if" expressions in each parameter definition so that the next parameter is displayed in its place if it's not given any value, said next parameter is going to repeat on the following spot in the list anyway, like so:

This is a two-column list
B B	C

And that's an utter programming n00b move. Is there a wiki function that recognises whether a parameter had already been filled on the same template, and does something based on that? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 20:08, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

I don't know of a wiki function that would make this easy. Ideally you'd want to design the template in a more forgiving way, like this:

{| style="border:solid black"
|'''This is a two-column list'''
|-
|<div style="column-count:2"><!--
-->{{#if:{{{A|}}}|*{{{A}}}}}<!--
-->{{#if:{{{B|}}}|*{{{B}}}}}<!--
-->{{#if:{{{C|}}}|*{{{C}}}}}<!--
--></div>
|}

If this doesn't help, I think I could be more useful if I knew more about the template you're working on. --Steve (talk) 23:36, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

I wasn't aware of the "column-count" attribute; that actually solves my problem partially, thanks! Having created the template in question, two issues remain:

1. the template may split the text in one entry between two columns. Here, for instance, the German text is moved to the column on the right while its heading stays on the left.
2. if multiple parameters in a row aren't filled in, the result is a jarring empty space where the next item on the list should be. For instance, if the Kor and Por parameters (both immediately following the Ita parameter) are left out, you can notice an empty space between the Italian and Spanish entries:

• Two-column list:
  • English:
    english
  • Japanese:
    japanese
  • Chinese (simplified):
    simplified chinese
  • Chinese (traditional):
    traditional chinese
  • French:
    french
  • German:
    german
  • Italian:
    italian
  • Spanish (Latin America):
    spanish (latam)
  • Spanish (Europe):
    spanish (europe)

-- KOOPA CON CARNE 07:22, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 12:34, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

A question regarding your server storage

As you're already aware, lately I've been updating various articles on Mario Kart Tour subjects with in-game blurbs. Because the game only provides these to the end user for a relatively brief period of time, not everyone has ready access to the game's files, and there aren't always video recordings of this information available online to cite, I've taken upon myself to take screenshots featuring these blurbs and upload them to the wiki to act as citations. My concern is that the number of screenshots I have uploaded and will continue to upload is... quite large, to say the least.

• Each item has a blurb localised in 11 languages, meaning I have to upload 11 screenshots at once for a single item.
• The game currently has 265 drivers, 336 karts, and 225 gliders, totalling 826. Not nearly as many items have been given blurbs, but let's assume all of them have. Each screenshot, when optimised with TinyPNG, ends up being an average of 160kb; times 11, that's 1.76mb of material uploaded for 1 item; times the number of items shown above, that's 1453.76mb worth of content in our scenario.

Considering the wiki has around 70GB of media files as of writing, would you be ok with a potential 1.5 gb more to the wiki's storage, or would you prefer I found another way to cite the information mentioned above? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:46, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

That's no problem - we have enough storage for it! --Steve (talk) 16:43, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

Something...

Didn't Alex95 get demoted? Why is his name still green in the "Who's online" section of Recent Changes? -- FanOfYoshi 11:18, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Your custom CSS makes him green. --Steve (talk) 11:19, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Mobile view issues

Since this morning on mobile view, the text in sections wouldn't appear in a page until refreshing a few times, and also don't appear while previewing. Nightwicked Bowser 07:43, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Hello. The wiki software was updated this morning. Does it work after clearing your browser cache? --Steve (talk) 08:22, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

I cleared my browsing history and previewing still doesn't work. Nightwicked Bowser 08:48, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not able to reproduce any issues with preview. Can you send a screenshot of what it looks like broken? --Steve (talk) 09:08, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Looks like it's been fixed now, thanks very much. Nightwicked Bowser 13:43, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

On another note, is it possible to run a bot changing "Darkmess Portal" to the lowercase "Darkmess portal"? The reason being because the lowercase "p" is used in-game in Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope. There are still lots of usage of the capital "P" around articles, including in links. Nightwicked Bowser 20:54, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

File:Personal-image.png

Should it be updated? Since it obviously uses outdated CGI, or is that unecessary? -- FanOfYoshi 12:07, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

If someone wants to provide an updated File:Personal-image.png and matching File:Personal-image-sig.png as a proposal or something then that's great. --Steve (talk) 12:48, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Mobile View Issues

I don't know why so much of the display code was removed, but now the wiki pages look weird on my end. The infoboxes and galleries are all left-aligned, the navigation boxes and collapsed sections of infoboxes are only partially colored (only coloring the area around the text while the outline extends to the full part of the page), and the "compare differences" menu is completely vertical (which takes up more space than before). Was this intentional? ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 14:24, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

It should go back to normal soon when your browser cache refreshes. --Steve (talk) 14:39, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah that worked, it looks normal now. Thanks for letting me know! ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 14:49, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

Error code: Plessie

My userpage keeps signing me out when I save changes I've made to it. It keeps saying Error code: Plessie. What does that mean and how do I get it to stop happening?-- Pizza Master 15:47, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I've made my changes. If this happens again, What should I do? Wait until later to come back and make edits? Or should I contact you again?-- Pizza Master 16:33, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Special:Diff/3982300

I need to fix my status template, but i can't seem to figure out how to do so. -- FanOfYoshi 10:19, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

Tetris 99 page on Mario Wiki

I was just asking for a request to the Porple Bot. We have now a guest article for Tetris 99, the bot should replace all mention of ''{{wp|Tetris 99}}'' with ''[[Tetris 99]]''  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  05:28, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Div class (Halloween)

Hello, Porple. I would like to impliment a background for my userpage, specifically a halloween one (pumpkins, perhaps?). What would be the codes for this? -- FanOfYoshi 09:29, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

Background images require CSS and that's not really supported here for user pages. I would suggest a solid color background and you can place Halloween graphics throughout the page.

<div style="color:white;background:black">
...userpage content...
</div>

--Steve (talk) 11:34, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

IIRC, there were graphics from the Pumpkin Goombas from SMG, but that could just be my memory. Thanks for the help anyway! -- FanOfYoshi 11:41, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

Change in the names of Crossover Characters

Hello, this is the first time I've requested the use of PorpleBot, so I apologize if I forgot anything. A past proposal has decided that the page names of various crossover characters should be shortened. I have moved the relevant pages and edited their templates, but I need PorpleBot to replace all their respective links across the wiki. The pages affected were Fox, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow (character), Vector, Blaze, Silver, Rouge, Espio, Jet (Sonic the Hedgehog), Wave (character), Omega, Sticks, Cream (character), Charmy and Big (character). I'm not sure if I need to specify any other details, thank you for the help! — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 13:40, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

There are a few stragglers but the bot got the vast majority of article links. --Steve (talk) 15:38, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Question about MIDI sampling

Is it allowed to use MIDI files converted to mp3 or oga? I'd like to fix a mistake/ommission on the SMW Overworld sample. -- FanOfYoshi 13:39, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Sure, there's nothing wrong with converting media files to one of the wiki's supported formats. --Steve (talk) 15:38, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Confused about this change

I guess this probably came about from Super Mario Bros. Wonder, but...I disagree with it being done this way. I know there's been public discussions on what to do with game filenames, and of the two proposals that got canceled, the latter was leaning in the direction of doing something about internal data with the development tier in the comments. Reclassifying game ("internal") data from development names to website ("external") filenames conflicts with at least two proposals: the encyclopedia one specifically outlines that Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia remains a lower priority than internal names, citing the Lumacomète example as a reason, and in the website proposal, no one was conflating game filenames with website filenames, and rather, there seemed to be general agreement of keeping them both distinguishable. Plus, there are cases where the unused data/string is not necessarily a filename or even "internal" per se. It's a weird technicality.
As unrelated as possible: if there is a question we want to ask more privately, would the best way to do it be via forum DM? LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:41, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Sure you can DM me. I only did that change because the page mentioned website files but said nothing about game files. Given that we are creating articles based on game files, surely they should be mentioned somewhere in the policy and be a part of that hierarchy. I don't personally care where they fall; I can move the mention to number 5. --Steve (talk) 13:56, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Tabber

There is discussion and proposals going on about extensive use of the tabber template. I am aware you said before that you didn't like it being used here. I was wondering if your thoughts on it are the same as then or if they have changed. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:13, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I personally hate tabber and I think it's gimmicky. I'd rather just pick an image and cover the rest of the variations in the article body. Regardless of my feelings, I added it after the result of a democratic proposal (this isn't a dictatorship). Regarding the JavaScript point: I can have the tabber fail in one of two ways: (1) only show the first image, or (2) show all the images. #1 is good if the additional images can be considered supplemental and hiding them isn't going to conceal important stuff from the user (for example, if those images also appear elsewhere in the article). #2 can make the infobox look kinda silly, but I agree that it makes more sense to use it if the images don't appear anywhere else in the articles so we don't degrade what those users are seeing. Given that several articles have removed images from the article body and put them in the infobox, I switched the failure method to #2. --Steve (talk) 10:33, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Bowser's Muscle Car

I recently moved the Koopa Chase to its new official English name, would it be possible to use porplebot to replace the remaining links? — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 18:36, November 16, 2023 (EST)

KannonBot

May the PorpleBot please change all instances of "[[kannon (cannon)|kannon]]" to "[[cannon|kannon]]" and "[[kannonball]]" to "[[cannonball|kannonball]]"? The pages were just merged. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:28, November 24, 2023 (EST)

And now "[[Gobblegut (Black)]]" to "[[Gobblegut|Gobblegut (Black)]]" and "[[Gobblegut (Black)|Gobblegut]]" to"[[Gobblegut]]". Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:04, December 2, 2023

...and now "[[Mecha Bowser]]" to "[[Bowser Statue|Mecha Bowser]]" and </nowiki>"[[Mecha Bowser|</nowiki>" to "[[Bowser Statue|". Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:32, December 2, 2023 (EST)

...and now I need Fiery Dino Piranha deleted, Fiery Dino Piranha (mission) moved to its place, all links to the former directed to Dino Piranha, and all links to the latter changed to the former. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:38, December 14, 2023 (EST)

Power Shots

The Power Shot article has been split between Power Shot (Mario Golf series) and Power Shot (Mario Tennis series), while Offensive Power Shot and Defensive Power Shot were both merged into Power Shot (Mario Tennis series). I believe I have fixed all of the redirects created in the Golf series articles, but there are far too many Tennis series articles to edit manually. Would it be possible to use PorpleBot to fix those redirects? — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 12:06, December 5, 2023 (EST)

Citation templates

Hello, Porplemontage. Since we do not have any citation templates, I used a cite web template onto my sandbox called cite web. Although, since there is no category, I think we could have Citation templates as one. What do you suggest? Derekblue1(talk) 09:36, December 13, 2023 (EST)

Hey. Citation templates is certainly a good category name if we were to have at least a few of them (if it's just one it could probably be tossed in formatting templates), but that template would go against this proposal, so you'd need to do a new proposal to overturn that one before the template could be moved to the template namespace or used.

While I have you here: Note that the changes to MarioWiki:Article size were designed to make it less definitive and more discussion-based: 150 kB is simply when split consideration starts, but if it's decided to keep an article larger than that, that's allowed. That's not to say an article like Toad (species) couldn't be split into History of Toads just above 150K - Yoshi was actually split just under 150K months ago without complaint (so that's why the threshold was increased to 150K, since splitting at or around 100K didn't feel right to a lot of users while a 150K split was seemingly non-controversial, but in addition to the increase it's now meant to be an open discussion rather than a hard and fast rule). Thanks! --Steve (talk) 10:08, December 13, 2023 (EST)

Oh. Thank you for telling me about the failed proposal of citation templates. Let us see how the future proposal goes, but I will accept the fate if it does not come through.

For the article size question response, it took me a few hours to understand what you meant but I finally understand you are saying that splitting articles is meant to be an open discussion; that should show why Template:Split is there in the first place. I was excited to split pages straight away because they fit the 100kB threshold. That is when I ended up splitting up a few articles that have not been discussed in the first place until Mario reminded me on the wall that I stopped. Now I understand, for the Toad species, it is better to put a Split template and discuss user thoughts of splitting this. Derekblue1(talk) 19:23, December 13, 2023 (EST)

After reading the proposal, I can see where they got the MarioWiki:Citations, so I think it was resolved that they choose not to have a template but a policy. According to some people, the proposal looked forced to tell others to use the citation templates for "professionalism". I will cancel the cite web template idea. Derekblue1(talk) 22:45, December 13, 2023 (EST)

Koopa Troop weapons category

Per this proposal, Category:Koopa Troop weapons is to be deleted. Is it possible to run a bot removing this category from all pages that have it? Nightwicked Bowser 12:47, December 23, 2023 (EST)

Proposal

There's a proposal that is nine days old. Can you mark the proposal as passed? GuntherBayBeee 10:08, December 30, 2023 (EST)

For clarity's sake, I just archived it. As stated above, you can also archive proposals that have reached their deadline yourself. Power Flotzo (talk) 06:42, December 31, 2023 (EST)

Mass editing request

I would like to request that the string:
''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''|4=Optimized with TinyPNG
found across the file pages of hundreds of Mario Kart Tour screenshots (such as File:MKT Tour101 Spotlight Shop Flowery Badwagon.jpg) be replaced with:
''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''<br>Screenshot taken on Redmi Note 10 Pro|4=Cropped at photopea.com, then optimized with TinyPNG
The layout of the elements shown in these screenshots may adapt to the device's screen size, and I think it's best if the device is mentioned for verifiability and such. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:53, January 18, 2024 (EST)

Thank -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:20, January 18, 2024 (EST)

Request

Thanks for helping me, however, can I please have my original username WaluigiMan10000 back with my current password? User:WarioDude

Navtemplate colors

Hi, should the navtemplate for Princess Peach: Showtime! use the same color scheme as the one for Super Princess Peach? I just ask because it's not yet brought up at MarioWiki:Navigation templates and it would make the most sense since both are the only games where Peach is treated as the primary protagonist. ^(T|C) 17:23, February 23, 2024 (EST)

Yes, sounds good. I've renamed the class from spp to peach to generalize it for more uses. --Steve (talk) 17:47, February 23, 2024 (EST)

Vector 2022 bug

Hi. Why does this page look so strange?

https://www.mariowiki.com/Donut_Block?useskin=vector-2022

It seems that if a page has at least four headings, and one of them has an unclosed italics '', such as:

==''a==
==b==
==c==
==d==

then the following HTML will be output under the Vector 2022 skin:

<i>
    <div class="mw-content-container">...</div>
    <div class="mw-footer-container">...</div>
</i>

The effect of the extraneous <i> is to make the whole page italic and extremely narrow. --Dine2017 (talk) 06:17, March 17, 2024 (EDT)

It seems fine on Wikipedia, so the fix should eventually make its way downstream to us. In the meantime, those tags should be closed anyway. --Steve (talk) 11:27, March 17, 2024 (EDT)

Fandom interwiki link

Can you please change the URL that the [[wikia:c:<wiki>]] interwiki link generates from https://community.fandom.com/wiki/c:<wiki> to https://<wiki>.fandom.com? Thanks! GuntherBayBeee 13:45, March 21, 2024 (EDT)

That is not possible due to how Special:Interwiki works. Luckily we can use {{fandom}} instead. --Steve (talk) 14:06, March 21, 2024 (EDT)

So are you going to remove the [[w:c:<wiki>]] interwiki link if the proposal here gets declined, since Fandom's interwiki link had problems in the past? GuntherBayBeee 12:28, March 22, 2024 (EDT)

No, I don't plan on it. While I would encourage articles to use {{fandom}}, the wikia interwiki is a pretty standard one to have and it's fine to have for backwards-compatibility, use in the userspace, etc. --Steve (talk) 13:37, March 22, 2024 (EDT)

Bot request

• .''. --> .''
• .]]. --> .]]
• .]]''. --> .]]''

RickTommy (talk) 20:16, March 26, 2024 (EDT)

A bot request

Per this proposal, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass is to be italicised in full, but it seems to still not be consistently enforced. Could you run a bot to change the following?

• Booster Course Pass -> ''Booster Course Pass''
• ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' – Booster Course Pass -> ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass''
• [[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass|Booster Course Pass]] -> ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass|Booster Course Pass]]''
• [[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass|''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' – Booster Course Pass]] -> ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass]]''

Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 20:38, April 13, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks for doing most of these, but it seems the first one (unlinked "Booster Course Pass", without "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe –" before it) still hasn't been changed. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 15:58, April 29, 2024 (EDT)

Ruby template

Hi, just letting you know of a certain comment (permalink) left on my talk page just now. To summarize, the {{ruby}} template apparently displays text too small for it to be readable on Chrome, and DandelionSprout suggested that the text size on the template be changed to 67% of the standard font size. ^(T|C) 20:05, April 16, 2024 (EDT)

More specifically, to change it from MediaWiki's ruby standard of "font-size: 50px", to 67%. DandelionSprout (talk) 20:13, April 16, 2024 (EDT)

Potential mass-conversion of YouTube links from HTTP→HTTPS with bot(s)

From a sample of a mere 27 games (the ones in Category:Wii U games), 21 (± 1) YouTube links in the articles were still written within the articles as http://. If the statistic holds true for the 28,610 pages that are listed on the front page, this would result in Mario Wiki as a whole needing to convert a low-to-medium four-digit amount of links. Manually converting each link on each page would not be realistically possible, unfortunately.

I've built up some RegEx skills over the years, and if PorpleBot uses the syntax I've seen used for wiki bots, i.e. "$1" instead of "\1", I propose adding ([\=]|//|\s{1,})http://(www\.|m\.)?youtube\.com/ → $1https://www.youtube.com/ to the bot.

Starting with YouTube links would in theory an easy starting point, as its video IDs have remained unchanged for each video for almost two decades, whereas sites like IGN and Gamespot are much more prone to having old links to them end up on 404 pages. YouTube also has full 100.0% support for HTTPS on all of its pages, while many gaming sites and Nintendo official sites have it depend on their sites' sections. DandelionSprout (talk) 02:46, April 26, 2024 (EDT)

I did something which will automatically update the YouTube links, and many more, to HTTPS without needing to edit anything. --Steve (talk) 10:23, April 26, 2024 (EDT)

Undeletion/un-delete template request

Recently, a user went on a frenzy marking Smash redirects and miscellaneous pages for deletion due to misinterpreting a proposal (as clarified by the original proposer, they just wanted categories removed), and one of the sysops deleted several of them. Can a bot remove those templates and someone undelete (and restore the history of) the erroneously deleted redirects? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:31, April 28, 2024 (EDT)

Re: user and bot pages

Your user/bot pages should be expanded, they are too short. Arthur2 (talk) 19:12, May 5, 2024 (EDT)

APNG

Are APNGs allowed on Super Mario Wiki now? I would so abandon GIF. Also, it seems like things are better for APNG overall since it is natively supported by modern web browsers today without the need of a plug-in like in the early days. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 23:45, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Yes, animated PNG (and WEBP) are allowed. I think WEBP may produce smaller file sizes? --Steve (talk) 23:51, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Alright then. WEBP, I do not know much about that format, other than people hating it when they try to copy the image to their computers or phones. I don't know if it is lossy, loseless, or both. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 00:03, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

I have most certainly compared APNG vs. AWebP with the same footage, exported from VSDC editor. APNG: 18 MB. AWebP: 0.8 MB. The reasons people cite as to why they hate it, is an outright blatant lie spread by an anti-WebP cult measuring tens of millions of followers based on a decade-old myth, as nowadays all competent image viewers and editors, all browsers, all wikis, and all social media except Bluesky for some reason, have no problem at all with handling WebP. DandelionSprout (talk) 04:26, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

If you are looking to use the copied picture for personal use, then yeah, there will be detractors that want PNG, JPEG, GIF, or other common formats, due to its widespread nature going over decades of support and compatibility compared to other image formats that have come and gone. However, if you are to use the image for web-based presentations (such as a Wiki) where copy-ability isn't the priority but rather presentability and low storage space requirements are, also having the software natively support the format, then yeah, WEBP is a good alternative. Newer technologies comes with benefits. I'm also sure that formats we enjoy today had growing pains when first introduced. WEBP may be no different in terms of file format history. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 18:45, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

Currently, 111 WEBP --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 23:13, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

Can the wiki handle a template with a "switch" function that has over 500 alternatives...

... or will this fry readers' machines? I need to know for this. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 14:45, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

I think we can handle it. {{Button}} has over 200 and seems fine; I don't think a few hundred more will do major damage --Steve (talk) 15:32, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

One thing I forgot to mention is that this template would make use of the switch function upwards to 80 times, maybe more. And on a page like this one (where I intend to use my W.I.P. template), you can multiply that number by about 20. How is that? If it's too much I'll abandon my current project. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:41, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

Maybe the page will render a little slower; I don't have a problem with that. Whether or not the new template is worth the speed hit is up to you and the community. Unfortunately we can't really know the performance without just building and testing it. --Steve (talk) 15:58, May 20, 2024 (EDT)

Product ID template

The IDs has been added on Template:Game infobox, it depends on the regions. Only half has been added. This template would be based on {{serials|jpn=|usa=|eur=|}}. Windy (talk) 16:30, May 23, 2024 (EDT)

I see. --Steve (talk) 11:12, May 25, 2024 (EDT)

Adding Product ID template is done. I want to see restoring File:Flag of Earth.png. Windy (talk) 11:02, June 25, 2024 (EDT)

The deletion reason for that file states "We don't use this flag... If there's a wordwide release, just list the regions or the date by itself." so basically we could just write the serial by itself without using the template. --Steve (talk) 11:14, June 25, 2024 (EDT)

Dark Mode

Found out there is a dark mode for Super Mario Wiki. I prefer dark mode whenever possible. However, it seems like it dynamically alters colors of images (not a permanent change). Is there a way you can fix that where it skips applying the dark pallet to images? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) ^{(Stats - Contribs)} 22:13, May 24, 2024 (EDT)

Sorry, but it's not possible with the current gadget. Perhaps with a different system down the road, but nothing in the immediate future. --Steve (talk) 11:12, May 25, 2024 (EDT)

Preventing weird vandalism

There's been a weird history of anons vandalizing the Parasol Plummet page with the "lastwarn" template. Are you able to make it so that template and the less-severe versions can't be posted on mainspace? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:51, May 26, 2024 (EDT)

Yes, I made a change which should help with that. --Steve (talk) 14:08, May 26, 2024 (EDT)

They've also been putting the Block template on mainspace articles. Nightwicked Bowser 14:22, May 26, 2024 (EDT)

Got it. --Steve (talk) 12:29, June 6, 2024 (EDT)

Bot request

Hi, I changed the Brazilian rating board on Template:Ratings from "DEJUS" to "ClassInd" (Classificação Indicativa), as the former is not used anymore by any official sources (site and guide, for example), the latter being the name of the platform and the one used in official stuff and elsewhere (including Wikipedia since 2014).

Could you please run a bot to change dejus to classind? Yook Bab-imba 12:26, June 6, 2024 (EDT)

Certainly. --Steve (talk) 12:29, June 6, 2024 (EDT)

Marquee

A goal I've had for a while is to replace the cycling .gif on Mario Kart: Double Dash!!#Drivers with an actual cycling collection of images identical to what is on there now, similar to HTML's depreciated "marquee" tag - the main reason being I don't like using "made up" images so to speak, and there's too many there to just have them all placed on the page together compared to the other characters'. I've gotten the HTML and CSS down, but unfortunately some of it requires keyframes that can only be implemented on the Common.css, and would be inconsistent depending on how many images there are (in this example, there are ten, plus a loop back to the first image). The raw HTML for this is:

<div class="marquee">
<div class="marquee-inner">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/da/FireballIcon-MKDD.png?20110827122359" alt="Image 1">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/26/HeartIcon-MKDD.png?20110827122544" alt="Image 2">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/9/94/YoshiEggIcon-MKDD.png?20110827122615" alt="Image 3">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/33/ChainChompIcon-MKDD.png?202306042111195" alt="Image 4">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/6/6f/GreenShell3Icon-MKDD.png?20110827122838" alt="Image 5">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/4/42/RedShell3Icon-MKDD.png?20110827123038" alt="Image 6">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/a/a8/GiantBananaIcon-MKDD.png?20110827123121" alt="Image 7">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/b6/BowserShellIcon-MKDD.png?20110827123155" alt="Image 8">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/d8/BobombIcon-MKDD.png?20110827123226" alt="Image 9">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/34/GoldMushroomIcon-MKDD.png?20110827123255" alt="Image 10">
<img src="https://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/da/FireballIcon-MKDD.png?20110827122359" alt="Image 11">
</div>
</div>

And the CSS is:

.marquee {
width: 64px;
height: 64px;
overflow: hidden;
position: relative;
white-space: nowrap;
}

.marquee-inner {
display: flex;
position: relative;
animation: marquee 5s linear infinite;
}

.marquee img {
width: 64px;
height: 64px;
flex-shrink: 0;
}

@keyframes marquee {
0% {
transform: translateX(0);
}
100% {
transform: translateX(-1000%);
}

Adapted to mediawiki/wikitext formatting, I have:

<div class="marquee" style="width: 64px;height: 64px;overflow: hidden;position: relative;white-space: nowrap;"><div class="marquee-inner" style="display: flex;position: relative;animation: marquee 5s linear infinite;">[[File:FireballIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:HeartIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:YoshiEggIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:ChainChompIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:GreenShell3Icon-MKDD.png]][[File:RedShell3Icon-MKDD.png]][[File:GiantBananaIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:BowserShellIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:BobombIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:GoldMushroomIcon-MKDD.png]][[File:FireballIcon-MKDD.png]]</div></div>

The problem remains that "keyframes" bit, which would require changing the common.css, and unless a template is made that can indicate the number of frames needed into that (about ten times the number of images, not counting the repeated first one), then this will remain at a standstill. Do you have any ideas? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:09, June 7, 2024 (EDT)

Sure, you can make a template and then define the keyframes for that template. I added it as a test. --Steve (talk) 19:16, June 7, 2024 (EDT)

Thank you so much! Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:49, June 7, 2024 (EDT)

MvsDK levels

If I recall properly, there was a discussion on the matter and the idea was extremely unpopular since it's inaccurate to the original game title "Mario vs. Donkey Kong" and as such comes off as disingenuous to identify it as being so. Granted, I can't find this discussion considering the multitude of pages it could be attached to. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:00, June 22, 2024 (EDT)

I moved the levels to their new names from the remake, as is current policy. If folks want to get clever with doing a conjectural name rather than the latest official name, or invent a new identifier scheme like the old "(SNES)" thing we used to do for Mario Kart, then that would be creating a new policy exception that requires a proposal (or the staff could invent and implement one I suppose). And if someone wants to do a proposal, then by all means have at it. But the game has been out for over four months, and since there's no passed proposal stating otherwise, the levels should be using their latest official name. --Steve (talk) 15:58, June 22, 2024 (EDT)

Eh? I'm more referring to how ice and carnival levels in the Switch remake didn't exist in the original, so treating them as part of the original game-identified numbering is off. I don't believe version-exclusive level numbering was included in the proposal, just de-subtitling of non-contradictory subjects. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:06, June 22, 2024 (EDT)

Remember that for an article such as Level 4-1 (Mario vs. Donkey Kong), the reason the identifier exists is to disambiguate the article from other articles with the exact same title: Level 4-1 (Mario & Wario) and Level 4-1 (Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars). Mario vs. Donkey Kong takes care of that; it is sufficiently different from Mario & Wario and Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars to resolve the same-title conflict, so there's no need to resort to using "Mario vs. Donkey Kong for Nintendo Switch". Mario vs. Donkey Kong is the valid title of the Nintendo Switch version just as much as it is the valid title of the Game Boy Advance game, and the fact that it may only appear in one version of Mario vs. Donkey Kong should be made evident in the article opener and infobox rather that making the article title longer to take care of that. --Steve (talk) 21:06, June 22, 2024 (EDT)

Mobile login

Hi. Why is the "Keep me logged in" option only available for the desktop version of the site and not for the mobile version? This is inconvenient for me because I have to temporarily switch to desktop view when logging in on my mobile devices if I want to keep it long. --Dine2017 (talk) 23:57, July 10, 2024 (EDT)

Good question. I will change it so it shows on mobile. --Steve (talk) 00:12, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

lua for sprite galleries

So when making galleries for sprites, I like to have the images at raw size so they don't look crusty and inconsistent. Problem is, as the coding for Gallery:Golf (Game Boy) demonstrates, that uses a lot of data in HTML. With the help of some tools, I have uncovered a possible solution via template, but it will require a Mediawiki:Common.lua page and a .lua file to be added to work. The code for the file, if I am correct, would be:

---

local rawgallery = {}

function rawgallery.__index(self, key)
if key == 'rawgallery' then
return self.rawgallery
end
end

function rawgallery.rawgallery(frame)
local minWidth = 40
local maxWidth = 256
local maxHeight = 256
local validClasses = {'blackbg', 'graybg'}

local images = {}
local classes = {}

for i, arg in ipairs(frame.args) do
if arg:match('^class=%S+') then
arg = arg:gsub('^class=', '')
if #arg > 0 and string.find(arg, '%S') then
table.insert(classes, arg)
end
else
table.insert(images, arg)
end
end

local html = ''
html = html .. '<div style="display: inline-block;">'
for i, image in ipairs(images) do
local imageSize = mw.parser.parseTemplate( '{{ImageSize|' .. image .. '}}' ).frame.args[1]
local width, height = imageSize:match('(%d+)x(%d+)')

-- Apply minimum width
width = tonumber(width)
if width < minWidth then
width = minWidth
end

-- Apply maximum width/height constraint
if width > maxWidth then
height = math.floor(height * (maxWidth / width))
width = maxWidth
end
if height > maxHeight then
width = math.floor(width * (maxHeight / height)) <nowiki> height = maxHeight
end

local bgClass = ''
if #classes >= i then
bgClass = ' ' .. classes[i]
if not string.find(bgClass, validClasses) then
bgClass = ''
end
end

html = html .. '<gallery widths=' .. width .. 'px heights=' .. height .. 'px' .. bgClass .. '>'
html = html .. image
html = html .. '</gallery>'
end
html = html .. '</div>'
return html
end

return rawgallery</nowiki>

---

Tell me if this is doable or not. Thanks! Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:32, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Let's get this done with a rawsize CSS class instead. Check this out:

• 

  Player 1

• 

  Player 1

• 

  Player 1

• 

  Player 1

• 

  Player 1

• 

  Player 1

You might need to CTRL+F5 first. --Steve (talk) 18:23, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Hey hey, that works! Thanks a ton. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:13, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

One thing I do note is that the height parameter doesn't seem to work with it, which could be an issue for long-and-thin images. Is there a way so both parameters work? (Also, unrelated question, I noticed certain more recent versions of unicode aren't supported by the wiki right now, I'm specifically looking at the "half-filled star" symbol from unicode 11, which comes out as an error rectangle: ⯨) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:47, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Unfortunately, I can't make the heights and widths work perfectly due to technical limitations. The default rawsize gallery will always have square boxes. But I've added wide and tall classes to be able to do rectangles with it:

• 
• 
• 

• 
• 
• 

When it comes to Unicode, I think it's up to your device to support the character. Do you see the character here but not on the wiki? --Steve (talk) 21:38, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

Huh, no I don't. I did see it in the place I originally copypasted it from, though, which is an odd inconsistency. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:09, July 11, 2024 (EDT)

On a related note, something that was brought up in the comments of my proposal, is there a way (in gallery or normal images) to change image size by percentage rather than exact pixel number, like width=50% or 200%? I've tried doing either in both contexts before, nothing has worked. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:12, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

It's mostly not possible. But I added a way to scale up rawsize gallery images a few set amounts:

• 

  Mario

• 

  Yellow Coin

• 

  Power Star

• 

  Mario

• 

  Yellow Coin

• 

  Power Star

• 

  Mario

• 

  Yellow Coin

• 

  Power Star

• 

  Mario

• 

  Yellow Coin

• 

  Power Star

---

• 

  Mario

• 

  Mario

• 

  Mario

• 

  Mario

CTRL + F5 --Steve (talk) 18:59, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

Number of days template creation

I need a template for the number of days, so I created for Template:Age in days now. But the Module hasn't been created yet.

Example:

• {{age in days|9 Jul 1981|4 Dec 2011}} gives 11,105
• {{age in days|12 Aug 2005}} gives 6,910 (as of July 13, 2024)

Can you adjust the content in the template? Also, an expression error occurs when using the vertical bar on Age template hasn't been fixed yet. Windy (talk) 15:19, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

What is this template needed for? --Steve (talk) 15:57, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

A new template didn't work and shown as "Script error". Windy (talk) 16:07, July 13, 2024 (EDT)

Resolved after source taken from Bulbapedia which wiki using days between them. Windy (talk) 07:05, July 14, 2024 (EDT)

A troll recently made a 235 character username on Nookipedia

Is it possible to shorten character limit to about 20 characters (if not more) to prevent any people from making disruptively long usernames like this in the future? Remembered Old Buddy 00:46, July 20, 2024 (EDT)

We already have limits in place. --Steve (talk) 00:47, July 20, 2024 (EDT)

How long is the limit? I can’t think of an username that realistically takes like 100 characters including spaces to create Remembered Old Buddy 00:54, July 20, 2024 (EDT)

25 characters for new accounts. --Steve (talk) 10:25, July 25, 2024 (EDT)

A question about revisions in history

I am curious about the way MediaWiki sites handle each individual edit revision visible in a page's history. Do two revisions, with all the content in them, fully occupy distinct portions of the server's storage as though they were entirely different pages? Or is there a system that recognizes which content is different and which is duplicated across the two revisions, and tries to allocate only the differing content new space?
If it's the former, I may want to be much more careful editing the wiki; usually I do try to be conservative with the number of consecutive edits I perform, but there are instances where I discover new errors and kinks just after I'm done logging in a new edit, and I feel pressed to edit the page again. I'd like to know if these successive edits pile up to become a burden on the storage. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:56, July 24, 2024 (EDT)

New revisions are initially saved in fulltext (the former), but every few years I run a script to compress and concatenate old revisions which converts them into the latter. That being said, storage is not a concern at this point and no amount of editing would be considered a burden on it. There are other reasons to try and limit successive edits (mainly to keep history and recent changes somewhat concise), but I understand that sometimes we keep finding stuff to fix and it happens. No worries about storage though. --Steve (talk) 10:25, July 25, 2024 (EDT)

Hello I need you

In fact I just want you to contact the vikidia administrators and look at my historical modifications so that they can delete that. Thank you in fact it's a hassle and I apologize. I did not I did something wrong on vikidia and I would like it to delete all my modifications thank you. 81.248.177.61 19:05, August 4, 2024 (EDT)

Bot request

Would it be possible to change all instances of "author=Nintendo" in {{cite}} templates when the publisher is already listed as Nintendo (or Nintendo of America etc.)? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:26, August 5, 2024 (EDT)