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(→‎Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series: I'll still want to get that one repealed to fully implement this, I'll go ahead and list all of these so they can be restored if and when the time comes.)
 
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==Sporty things==
==Sporty things==
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#Keep trophy, assist trophy, and challenge pages covering only ''Mario'' things, leave the remainder in the game gallery (fun fact: Smashwiki does not have game galleries, nor does their community want them; we can base what we ''could'' do on if other wikis do something, but not base what we ''cannot'' do from those - nothing forbids coverage from that).
#Keep trophy, assist trophy, and challenge pages covering only ''Mario'' things, leave the remainder in the game gallery (fun fact: Smashwiki does not have game galleries, nor does their community want them; we can base what we ''could'' do on if other wikis do something, but not base what we ''cannot'' do from those - nothing forbids coverage from that).


People may wonder, "What about Nintendo Land and NES Remix? Why don't they get this level of coverage?" It's simple, really: In ''Smash'', you can have Mario throw a Deku Nut at Ridley in Lumiose City and nobody bats an eye at how absurd that situation is. In those other games, the different representations are very much split apart; all ''Mario''-related stuff is within a few minigames that do not overlap whatsoever with any of the other ones. In ''Nintendo Land'', you cannot have Mario fighting Ridley in the Lost Woods, despite (representations of) all of those things appearing in the game. In ''Smash'', anyone can interact with anything, regardless of origin, so ''Mario'' characters can interact with anything, and anyone can interact with ''Mario'' things. That's why ''Smash'', the melting pot it is, gets more focus than ''Nintendo Land'', where everything's more of a side dish.
People may wonder, "What about Nintendo Land and Saturday Supercade? Why don't they get this level of coverage?" It's simple, really: In ''Smash'', you can have Mario throw a Deku Nut at Ridley in Lumiose City and nobody bats an eye at how absurd that situation is. In those other games, the different representations are very much split apart; all ''Mario''-related stuff is within a few minigames that do not overlap whatsoever with any of the other ones. In ''Nintendo Land'', you cannot have Mario fighting Ridley in the Lost Woods, despite (representations of) all of those things appearing in the game. In ''Smash'', anyone can interact with anything, regardless of origin, so ''Mario'' characters can interact with anything, and anyone can interact with ''Mario'' things. That's why ''Smash'', the melting pot it is, gets more focus than ''Nintendo Land'', where everything's more of a side dish.




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|style=background:#AQ22BB|[[Aero]] • [[Shyster#Bodyguard|Bodyguard]] • [[Chandeli-ho]] • [[Drill Bit]] • [[Gu Goomba]] • [[Jabit]] • [[Machine Made]] • [[Mad Mallet]] • [[Ninja]] • [[Pounder]] • [[Poundette]] • [[Puppox]] • [[Shyper]] • [[Shyster]] • [[Springer]] • [[Terra Cotta]] • [[Tub-O-Troopa]]
|style=background:#AQ22BB|[[Aero]] • [[Shyster#Bodyguard|Bodyguard]] • [[Chandeli-ho]] • [[Drill Bit]] • [[Gu Goomba]] • [[Jabit]] • [[Machine Made]] • [[Mad Mallet]] • [[Ninja]] • [[Pounder]] • [[Poundette]] • [[Puppox]] • [[Shyper]] • [[Shyster]] • [[Springer]] • [[Terra Cotta]] • [[Tub-O-Troopa]]
|}<noinclude></noinclude>
|}<noinclude></noinclude>
==Enemies and obstacles==
<nowiki>*</nowiki> <small>denotes ''Yoshi's Island'' series debut</small><br>
<nowiki>**</nowiki> <small> denotes overall debut</small>
===Enemies===
<gallery>
YNI Bandit.png|[[Bandit]]
YNI Baron von Zeppelin.png|[[Baron von Zeppelin]]
YNI Big Boo.png|[[Big Boo]]
YNI Big Kyutyan.png|[[Big Kyutyan]]
YNI Blooper.png|[[Blooper]]
YNI Blow Hard.png|[[Blow Hard]]
YNI Boo.png|[[Boo]]
YNI Boo Blah.png|[[Boo Blah]]
YNI Boo Guy.png|[[Boo Guy]]
YNI Bouncing Bullet Bill.png|[[Bouncing Bullet Bill]]
YNI Bowling Goonie.png|[[Bowling Goonie]]
YNI Bubble Dayzee.png|[[Bubble Dayzee]]
YNI Bumpty.png|[[Bumpty]]
YNI Bullet Bill.png|[[Bullet Bill]]
YNI Caged Ghost.png|[[Caged Ghost]]
YNI Caged Ghost tunnel.png|Caged Ghost
YNI Chain Chomp.png|[[Chain Chomp]]
YNI Flopsy Cheep Cheep.png|[[Cheep Cheep]]
YNI Flopsy Cheep Cheep bite.png|Cheep Cheep
YNI Piscatory Cheep Cheep.png|Cheep Cheep
YNI Chomp Shark.png|[[Chomp Shark]]
YNI Clawdaddy default.png|[[Clawdaddy]]
YNI Cloud Drop.png|[[Cloud Drop]]
YNI Coin Bandit.png|[[Coin Bandit]]
YNI Crazee Dayzee.png|[[Crazee Dayzee]]
YNI Dancing Spear Guy pink.png|[[Dancing Spear Guy]]
YNI Dancing Spear Guy yellow.png|Dancing Spear Guy
YNI Dangling Ghost.png|[[Dangling Ghost]]
YNI Piscatory Deep Cheep.png|[[Deep Cheep]]*
YNI Door Heiho.png|[[Door Heihō]]**
YNI Dr Freezegood.png|[[Dr. Freezegood]]
YNI Eggo-Dil.png|[[Eggo-Dil]]
YNI Fake Yoshi.png|[[Fake Yoshi]]**
YNI Fang.png|[[Fang]]
YNI Fire Wanwan Dosun.png|[[Fire Wanwan Dosun]]**
YNI Fishin' Lakitu.png|[[Fishin' Lakitu]]
YNI Flightless Goonie.png|[[Flightless Goonie]]
YNI Flightless Skeleton Goonie.png|[[Flightless Skeleton Goonie]]
YNI Flutter.png|[[Flutter]]
YNI Fly Guy red.png|[[Fly Guy]]
YNI Fly Guy yellow.png|Fly Guy
YNI Fooly Flower.png|[[Fooly Flower]]
YNI Gargantua Blargg.png|[[Gargantua Blargg]]
YNI Goomba.png|[[Goomba]]
YNI Goonie.png|[[Goonie]]
YNI Grim Leecher.png|[[Grim Leecher]]
YNI Grunt.png|[[Grunt (Yoshi's Island series)|Grunt]]
YNI Gusty.png|[[Gusty]]
YNI Harry Hedgehog big.png|[[Harry Hedgehog]]
YNI Hefty Goonie.png|[[Hefty Goonie]]
YNI Hootie the Blue Fish.png|[[Hootie the Blue Fish]]
YNI Hot Lips.png|[[Hot Lips]]
YNI Itsunomanika Heiho red.png|[[Itsunomanika Heihō]]
YNI Jean de Fillet.png|[[Jean de Fillet]]
YNI Kaboomba.png|[[Kaboomba]]
YNI Toadies.png|[[Kamek's Toadies]]
YNI Koopa Paratroopa green.png|[[Koopa Paratroopa]]
YNI Koopa Paratroopa red.png|Koopa Paratroopa
YNI Koopa Troopa green.png|[[Koopa Troopa]]
YNI Koopa Troopa red.png|Koopa Troopa
YNI Lakitu.png|[[Lakitu]]
YNI Lantern Ghost.png|[[Lantern Ghost]]
YNI Lava Drop.png|[[Lava Drop]]
YNI Little Mouser.png|[[Little Mouser]]
YNI Little Skull Mouser.png|[[Little Skull Mouser]]
YNI Loch Nestor.png|[[Loch Nestor]]
YNI Lunge Fish.png|[[Lunge Fish]]
YNI Mace Guy red.png|[[Mace Guy]]
YNI Beanie.png|[[Mame-san]]**
YNI Mega Guy.png|[[Mega Guy]]*
YNI Mega Kantera.png|[[Mega Kantera]]**
YNI Metal Guy.png|[[Metal Guy]]**
YNI Milde.png|[[Milde]]
YNI Needlenose green.png|[[Needlenose]]
YNI Needlenose yellow.png|Needlenose
YNI Nipper Plant.png|[[Nipper Plant]]
YNI Petal Guy red.png|[[Petal Guy]]
YNI Piranha Plant.png|[[Piranha Plant]]
YNI Piro Dangle fiery.png|[[Piro Dangle]]
YNI Pokey.png|[[Pokey]]*
YNI Pokey ceiling.png|Pokey**
YNI Heading Pokey.png|[[Pokey (Yoshi's Island series)|Pokey]]
YNI Preying Mantas.png|[[Preying Mantas]]
YNI Puchipuchi L.png|[[Puchipuchi L]]
YNI Pyro Guy.png|[[Pyro Guy]]
YNI Raven.png|[[Raven]]
YNI Raven small.png|[[Raven (chick)]]
YNI Red Blargg.png|[[Red Blargg]]
YNI Relay Heiho.png|[[Relay Heihō]]
YNI Seedy Sally.png|[[Ukiki|Seedy Sally]]
YNI Short Fuse.png|[[Ukiki|Short Fuse]]
YNI Shy Guy red.png|[[Shy Guy]]
YNI Shy Guy yellow.png|Shy Guy
YNI Shy Guy green.png|Shy Guy
YNI Skeleton Goonie.png|[[Skeleton Goonie]]
YNI Slave Basa.png|[[Slave Basa]]**
YNI Slime.png|[[Slime]]
YNI Slime Drop.png|[[Slime Drop]]
YNI Sluggy.png|[[Sluggy]]
YNI Solo Toady.png|[[Toady|Solo Toady]]
YNI Spear Guy.png|[[Spear Guy]]
YNI Spiny Egg.png|[[Spiny Egg]]
YNI Spray Fish.png|[[Spray Fish]]
YNI Snifit.png|[[Snifit]]
YNI Stilt Guy red.png|[[Stilt Guy]]
YNI Tap-Tap gold.png|[[Tap-Tap]]
YNI Tap-Tap special.png|[[Tap-Tap the Golden]]
YNI Tetu Kantera.png|[[Tetu Kantera]]**
YNI Thunder Lakitu.png|[[Thunder Lakitu]]
YNI Tree Heiho.png|[[Tree Heihō]]**
YNI Ukiki.png|[[Ukiki]]
YNI Ukiki chain.png|Ukiki
YNI Ukiki melon.png|Ukiki
YNI Wall Lakitu.png|[[Wall Lakitu]]
YNI Whirly Fly Guy.png|[[Whirly Fly Guy]]
YNI Woozy Guy red.png|[[Woozy Guy]]
YNI Zeus Guy.png|[[Zeus Guy]]
</gallery>
===Obstacles===
<gallery>
YNI Bill Blaster 1.png|[[Bill Blaster]]
YNI Bill Blaster 2.png|Bill Blaster
YNI Bomb.png|Bomb
YNI Bouncing Bill Blaster.png|Bouncing Bullet Bill Blaster
YNI Cannonball.png|[[Cannonball]]
YNI Mallet.png|Mallet**
YNI Spinner.png|[[Spinner]]
YNI Tekkyu Dosun.png|[[Tekkyū Dosun]]
YNI Thorn.png|[[Thorn]]
</gallery>

Latest revision as of 22:30, October 28, 2024

This is my personal project page.

User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Koopas
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Early merges

Sporty things

User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Mario Kart courses by character
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Fun with tables

Konkey Dong

User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country (Game Boy Color)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country (Game Boy Advance)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Land
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country 2 (Game Boy Advance)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Land 2
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Country 3 (Game Boy Advance)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Donkey Kong Land III

Merge 'n' split viability testing

User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Kamekku - Magikoopa/Kamek/colors
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Kamekku profiles and statistics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Kamekku
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Kamezard - Magikoopa (SMRPG)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Hanachan - Wiggler/Flutter
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Hanachan profiles and statistics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Hanachan
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Yossy - Yoshi
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Yossy profiles and statistics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Yossy art
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Yossy graphics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Yossy screenshots
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Yossy misc
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Kinopio - Toad
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Kinopio profiles and statistics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Kinopio art
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Kinopio graphics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Kinopio screenshots
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Chibi Yossy - Baby Yoshi
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Chibi Yossy
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Yoster Island - Yoshi's Island (SMW and derived)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Yossy Island - Yoshi's Island (SMW2 and derived)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Faiabol - Fireball
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Faiabress - Fire Breath
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Denkinoko - Electro-Koopa
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Hanekurin - Winged Strollin' Stu/Swipin' Stu
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Ponkey - Panser/Volcano Lotus
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Mucho - Snifit
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Mekakuppa big - Mecha-Bowser
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Fire Packun - Fire Piranha Plant/Lava Piranha/Lava Bud
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Ice Packun - Ice Piranha Plant/Frost Piranha
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Petit Packun - Nipper Plant/Petit Piranha
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Klump
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Krusha
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Boss Kuribo - Mega Goomba/Megasparkle Goomba
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Moguhei - Undergrunt/Undergrunt Gunner
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Water Bazooka - Undergrunt Gunner's blue cannon
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Electric Bazooka - Undergrunt Gunner's yellow cannon
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Sanbo - Pokey/Needlenose/Spiked Fun Guy/Potted Spiked Fun Guy/Green Pokey
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/List of Sanbo profiles and statistics
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gallery:Sanbo
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Gerogero - Frog Pirate/Prince Froggy
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Big Unbaba - Gargantua Blargg/Nep-enut
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Mame Kuribo - Mini Goomba/Pile Driver Micro-Goomba
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Chibi Kuribo - Small Goomba
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Kazandan - Volcanic debris/Helio/Pyroclast
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Togezo kora - Spiny Shell
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Buran - Ceiling Surprise/Purple Bomber
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Big Teresa - Big/Sleepy Boo (specific instances)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Boss Teresa - Big/King Boo (specific instances)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Jumbo Teresa - Boolossus
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Kyodai Teresa - Mega Boo

User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Super Mario Bros. (series)
User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Super Mario 3D (series)

Proposal

Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series

I've pitched this before, and it got a lot of approval, so I'm making it a full proposal:
I have thought long and hard about the "proper" way for us to cover Super Smash Bros. in a way that both respects the desire to focus primarily on Super Mario elements while also respecting the desire to not leave anything uncovered. As such, the main way to do this is to give pages only to Super Mario elements, whilst covering everything else on the pages for the individual Super Smash Bros. games; unless otherwise stated, they will instead link to other wikis, be if the base series' wiki or SmashWiki. For instance, Link will remain an internal link (no pun intended) because he's crossed over otherwise, Ganondorf will link to Zeldawiki because he hasn't. Link's moves (originating from the Legend of Zelda series) will link to Zeldawiki, while Ganondorf's moves (original moves due to being based on Captain Falcon's moves) will link to Smashwiki.
Other specific aspects of thism which for the most part make the game pages' internal coverage be more consistent with how we handle other games':

  1. Merge the "enemies" pages to their respective game - they're already structured like any other game's enemy tables anyway. These pages also always bothered me.
  2. Merge the "Subspace Army" and "Subspace Stages" lists to each other to recreate a watered-down version of the Subspace Emissary page (to split from the Brawl page due to length and being exclusive to that campaign); it would also include a table for characters describing their role in said campaign, as well as objects/items found exclusively in it (Trophy Stands, the funny boxes, the metallic barrel cannons, etc) - once again, all except Mario-derived things will link elsewhere (mostly to Smashwiki in this case).
  3. Section each game akin to how I had the SSB64 page as of this edit, including sections for Pokemon, Assist Trophies, Bosses, etc., and links to other wikis for subjects that we don't need pages on. Other sections can be added as needed.
  4. Leave the lists for fighters, stages, and (series-wide) bosses alone (for now at least), as they make more sense to have a series-wide representation on here (similar to the fighters) in some capacity than the items or enemies. Also, you never know when one of them is going to cross over otherwise, like Villager, Isabelle, and Inkling suddenly joining Mario Kart, so it's good to keep that around in case a split is deemed necessary from something like that happening down the line.
  5. Have image galleries cover everything that can reasonably be included in an image gallery for the game, regardless of origin. This includes artwork, sprites, models, screenshots, etc, for any subject - yes, including Pokemon, so that will undo that one proposal from a month ago. Just like on the game pages, the labels will link to other sites as needed.
  6. Leave Stickers and Spirits alone, their pages are too large to merge and are fine as they are for the reasons that opposition to deleting them historically has brought up.
  7. Include the "minigame" stages (Break the Targets, Board the Platforms, Race to the Finish, Snag Trophies, Home Run Contest, Trophy Tussle, the Melee Adventure Mode stages) in the "list of stages debuting in [game]" articles. For ones like Targets, it would just explain how it worked and then have a gallery for the different layouts rather than describing each in detail. Said minigame pages should be merged to a section in the SSB series article covering the series' minigames. The Subspace Emissary stages will get a section with a {{main}} to the stage section of the Subspace Emissary article (detailed in an above point).
  8. Keep trophy, assist trophy, and challenge pages covering only Mario things, leave the remainder in the game gallery (fun fact: Smashwiki does not have game galleries, nor does their community want them; we can base what we could do on if other wikis do something, but not base what we cannot do from those - nothing forbids coverage from that).

People may wonder, "What about Nintendo Land and Saturday Supercade? Why don't they get this level of coverage?" It's simple, really: In Smash, you can have Mario throw a Deku Nut at Ridley in Lumiose City and nobody bats an eye at how absurd that situation is. In those other games, the different representations are very much split apart; all Mario-related stuff is within a few minigames that do not overlap whatsoever with any of the other ones. In Nintendo Land, you cannot have Mario fighting Ridley in the Lost Woods, despite (representations of) all of those things appearing in the game. In Smash, anyone can interact with anything, regardless of origin, so Mario characters can interact with anything, and anyone can interact with Mario things. That's why Smash, the melting pot it is, gets more focus than Nintendo Land, where everything's more of a side dish.


Images that will need restored

File:Zoroark Wii U.jpg File:Xerneas Wii U.jpg File:Wobbuffet.png File:Victini Wii U.jpg File:Togepi.png File:Togepi SSB4 Wii U.jpg File:Togepi Brawl screenshot.png File:Swirlix Wii U.jpg File:Suicune.png File:Suicune Wii U.jpg File:Staryu.png File:Staryu Wii U.jpg File:SSBBpiplup.jpg File:SSBBmanaphy.jpg File:SSBBbonsly.jpg File:SSB4 Wii U Keldeo.jpg File:Spewpa Wii U.jpg File:Snorlax.png File:Snorlax Wii U.jpg File:Snivy WiiU.JPG File:Scizor.png File:Palkia Wii U.jpg File:Oshawott Wii U.jpg File:Moltres.png File:Moltres.jpg File:Moltres Wii U.jpg File:Mew.png File:Mew Wii U.jpg File:Metagross.jpg File:Metagross Wii U.jpg File:Meowth Wii U.jpg File:Meloetta Wii U.jpg File:Lugia Wii U.jpg File:Lugia Melee.png File:Latias latios.jpg File:Latias and Latios Wii U.png File:Kyurem Wii U.jpg File:Kyogre Wii U.jpg File:Inkay WiiU.JPG File:Ho-oh.png File:Goldeen.png File:Goldeen Wii U.jpg File:Gogoat Wii U.jpg File:Giratina Wii U.jpg File:Genesect Wii U.jpg File:Fletchling Wii U.jpg File:Fennekin Wii U.jpg File:Entei.png File:Entei Wii U.jpg File:Electrode.png File:Electrode Wii U.jpg File:Eevee Wii U.jpg File:Ditto.png File:Deoxys Wii U.jpg File:Deoxys Brawl screenshot.png File:Dedenne-SSBWiiU.jpg File:Darkrai Wii U.jpg File:Chikorita.png File:Chespin Wii U.jpg File:Celebi.png File:BrawlSuicune.jpg File:BrawlStaryu.jpg File:BrawlSnorlax.jpg File:BrawlMeowth.jpg File:BrawlKyogre.jpg File:BrawlGoldeen.jpg File:BrawlEntei.jpg File:BrawlElectrode.jpg File:BrawlBellosom.jpg File:Bellossom Wii U.jpg File:Bellossom.png File:Arceus Wii U.jpg File:Abomasnow SSB4 Wii U.jpg

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