User talk:Mario jc/Archive 21

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Mario jc (talk) – Talk page archives
0 - 50: "Pilot" 51 - 100: "Paraskavedekatriaphobia" 101 - 150: "Gift of the Week" 151 - 200: "Puppet" 201 - 250: "Checkpoints" 251 - 300: "Business" 301 - 350: "OGG" 351 - 400: "One-Way Wall" 401 - 450: "Spaside Kingdom" 451 - 500: "Trio Move" 501 - 550: "Parentheses" 551 - 600: "Quadruple Move" 601 - 650: "Seven Seventy-Seven"	651 - 700: "Lumacomète" 701 - 750: "Course Elements" 751 - 800: "Ground Theme" 801 - 850: "Retro Tour" 851 - 900: "Origami" 901 - 950: "Favoured Course" 951 - 1000: "March 31" 1001 - 1050: "Mantaro" 1051 - 1100: "Molehill" 1101 - 1150: "Datamine" 1151 - 1200: "Spark" 1201 - 1250: "Dark Lands" 1251 - 1300: "Stress Ball"

Spark

There's already multiple species called "Spark," though. The "considering enemies separate from species" thing only applied to categories if I recall correctly. Granted, I prefer shorter identifiers in general, but I don't think this one is doing its job. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:19, June 19, 2021 (EDT)

This is the reason of why I reverted my edits to the Super Mario 3D All-Stars article.

This is the reason of why I reverted my edits to the Super Mario 3D All-Stars article. Since it used to say "The compilation and its name is based on" to "The compilation and its name are based on Super Mario All-Stars". I am aware that the sentence used to be a mistake until someone changed the word is to are. The reason of why I reverted my edits that time because it was there for so long. I am also aware tha the game is limited time and was only available until March 31, 2021 and it was discontinued and removed from the Nintendo eShop. The game is still in a lot of stores. 107.146.244.150 20:16, June 21, 2021 (EDT)

About People

After all of the feedback about not enough information for people articles, I have decided to make sandboxes for 2 prominent people, User:TANAKA SAMMI/sandbox: Futoshi Shirai and User:TANAKA SAMMI/sandbox: Hisashi Nogami. Would these be enough to move to the mainspace?

Warm regards, TANAKA SAMMI (たなか さっみ) - talk 11:37, July 2, 2021 (EDT)

What happens if you put this in a article's talk page.

What happens if you put this in a article's talk page. WARNING: DO NOT DELETE EDITS. 107.146.244.150 18:38, July 2, 2021 (EDT)

What stuff? --64.180.55.184 19:10, July 2, 2021 (EDT)

This is what I am talking about someone (but not me) putting this. "WARNING: DO NOT DELETE EDITS!".

It's actually funny when someone's puts "WARNING: DO NOT DELETE EDITS!". The person can delete or revert the edits regardless. 107.146.244.150 21:00, July 2, 2021 (EDT)

It is funny to me. I also remember a time before March 31, 2021, (the so called Mario Doomsday and Fire Emblem Doomsday), I was planning on having a party at somewhere, a family only party but those didn't happen. On the actual day (I didn't believe it was Mario Doomsday and Fire Emblem Doomsday even although the memes about them dying and the stuff being limited time), I played the games, no one came over to our house but I still considered a party anyway. I also submitted a poll about do you miss the Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary? and I hope it happens. 107.146.244.150 21:10, July 2, 2021 (EDT)

Sentence structure

This sentence has been like this on Aces High since near the page's creation: "The only way the player can get rid of the following Bullet Bill is to do an off-course and get rid of it." Do you think you can make the sentence sound better? Dwhitney (talk) 21:52, July 3, 2021 (EDT)

Regarding this edit on the Metro Kingdom page

Hi, I noticed that in your Metro Kingdom Edit, you said that the Bullet Bills that wear visors cannot be captured. Those Bullet Bills actually can be captured: here's a YouTube video as proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd87bCzqlO0 If I readd that edit using that YouTube video as a source that the Bullet Bills that wear visors can be captured, may I please add it in? Thank you. Mari0fan100 (talk) 23:37, July 5, 2021 (EDT)

Help in making a page

Hey, so you might know me from our conversation a few weeks ago about those issues with my account and email, but here I'm asking you to help me with something: making a page. I have only been with the wiki for a few months, and in that time, I have never learned how to make a proper page for a character, place, game, or anything else, so if I wanted to make one, I need someone to either help me do it or teach me how. The page I want to make is for Yoshi's Island DS: Yoshi's Egg Toss. If you don't remember, it's listed as an Adobe Flash game on the List of Games page, and it and 2 other flash games have no pages about them. I even searched a few months ago and these 3 games have nothing about them anywhere. No screenshots, no videos, no descriptions, no music, absolutely nothing outside of their titles. But you see, today I searched around again and found that on the last day of May this year, a small channel on YouTube posted a video showing full footage of Yoshi's Egg Toss, and with this new information, I want it to have a page here. But as I said earlier, I have no experience in making a page on the wiki, and I need someone like you for that. Will you help me? --JacobH.5840 (talk) 23:56, July 5, 2021 (EDT)

Why are some blocked users pages not blanked and deleted?

Why are some blocked users pages not blanked and deleted? That is the thing. 107.146.244.150 23:12, July 6, 2021 (EDT)

Because there's no reason to. Mario JC 07:55, July 8, 2021 (EDT)

OK. That can happen on other wikis. 107.146.244.150 16:51, July 14, 2021 (EDT)

I think Game Builder Garage should be on this wiki.

I think Game Builder Garage should be on this wiki. That is the thing. 107.146.244.150 23:49, July 7, 2021 (EDT)

It's here. 02:00, July 8, 2021 (EDT)

I am talking about a separate page for it. I think stuff that have nothing to do with Mario should have their own separate pages too. 107.146.244.150 16:40, July 14, 2021 (EDT)

You do realise that this is Mario Wiki right? Game Builder Garage is not part of the Mario franchise so it does not warrant an article on this wiki. Nightwicked Bowser 16:45, July 14, 2021 (EDT)

OK. I have known that this is a Mario Wiki for years. 107.146.244.150 16:48, July 14, 2021 (EDT)

New problem

I was going to post this question in the world 5 Tower's talk page, but I noticed that I'm not allowed to create it, so I'm putting it on your user talk page:

Have you tried to edit SMB3 so that a green Koopa Troopa appears in the part of the tower with the vine?? This is an interesting question because the pipe and vine are both blue, and I'm guessing the Koopa Troopa would also be blue if it were the normally green species.

If you're not a good user for this question, please let me know a better user for this question. 99.101.66.106 21:15, July 18, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure what you're asking because the Koopa that appears there is red. Are you saying it should be mentioned that they couldn't have added a green one because it'd appear blue? It's likely they intended to add a red one from the start due to the layout of the area, so this info would be unnecessary. Mario JC 22:59, July 18, 2021 (EDT)

Never mind, I think you meant modifying the game itself to add a green Koopa. No, I'm not the right person to ask and I don't know anyone else specifically who'd know. Since this isn't a wiki-related matter, this would be better brought up on the forums. Mario JC 23:05, July 18, 2021 (EDT)

More deletion requests

I found some more thumbnails that aren't used. This should be it. Can you or another admin delete them?

Scrooge200 (talk) 14:46, July 23, 2021 (EDT)

RE:Unite Pikachu Image

I'm using it for The 'Shroom. Any alternate methods are welcome though. - RabbidYoshi2

Got it. Thanks for telling me. - RabbidYoshi2

Should I upload the Pikachu Image now? If so, how do I do it? - RabbidYoshi2

World 36 or Minus World? World 10 to 13 or World A to D?

Mario jc, why you reverted 4 of my edits? 10 to 35 represents the tiles (letters) A to Z but 36 represents a blank tile. Then, the correct names of World A, B, C, and D are World 10, 11, 12, and 13, respectively. And then, the correct name of Minus World is World 36. Super Mario Bros. can be played in all of these consoles: NES, FDS, Arcade (VS. Super Mario Bros.), SNES, Game & Watch, GBA, TurboGrafx-16, Sega Genesis, Commodore 64, Sharp X68000. The only version of Super Mario Bros. that can be played in NEC PC-88 and Sharp X1 is Super Mario Bros. Special. 85.153.226.225 09:36, August 2, 2021 (EDT)

I've already explained this in my summaries. They should be what can be read by the player, not what they represent. Unless there's popular enough usage of these names, it doesn't mean they're "known" under them, and if you think they should be renamed, discuss it first. Mario JC 09:46, August 2, 2021 (EDT)

The name "World 36" has a population of 1,000,000, this also means that Minus World has an enough usage of the name "World 36". Why you continued to revert my edits of the page "Minus World"? Otherwise, the edit warring will continue, until you're blocked. 85.153.226.225 09:54, August 2, 2021 (EDT)

Memes

Sorry if I am doing the discussion wrong but check the page before my first edit and it says to include the it's a stone luigi meme in the Memes section

It has been requested that this section be rewritten and expanded to include the "It's a Stone, Luigi" meme.

-unless it got unconfirmed

GreenWeegee (talk)

I got blocked from WIkipedia.

I got blocked from WIkipedia. "User:Magitroopa" had put something in "Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents" (now its archived), and I was blocked by "Acroterion" until August 27, 2021 because of me doing disruptive editing but according to me, I believe that I was never one. Later, I was not happy, and I thought Magitroopa was my best Wikipedia friend, and as of yesterday Acroterion literally EXTENDED my BLOCK until 2/4/2022. And I am NOT HAPPY about it!!!!! I actually need to get unblocked early and I don't want to wait that long, so you could become a user or admin on the wikipedia, and I have no plans to tell other wikis about it too. I am not a disruptive editor on this wikipedia too. 107.146.244.150 00:34, August 5, 2021 (EDT)

First, don't drag dramas from other wikis here, they have no relevance to us. Second, you shouldn't simply ask other users to sign up on a wiki (much less become an admin; that doesn't just happen immediately) to try and sway the admins' decision in blocking you (or reverse it themselves), especially if they likely did it for good reason. Mario JC 06:32, August 5, 2021 (EDT)

OK. 107.146.244.150 12:46, August 5, 2021 (EDT)

Are we allowed to create a second account?

Are we allowed to create a second account? That's the thing. 107.146.244.150 20:24, August 5, 2021 (EDT)

First try accessing your first account MarioBobfan2007 (talk) with Special:PasswordReset. Mario JC 22:03, August 5, 2021 (EDT)

OK. 107.146.244.150 14:58, August 7, 2021 (EDT)

typo on MarioWiki:Japanese

Hi. I see that you are a bureaucrat who can speak Japanese. There is a typo on MarioWiki:Japanese:

• In the section Subjects with Japanese names, the "normal romanization" of ロープをのぼってアスレチック！ is given as Rōpu o Nobette Asurechikku!. Here Nobette should be Nobotte.

By the way, should Kaitensuru Honō be "Kaiten suru Honō"? I know that some variants of Hepburn romanization don't insert a space for verbs derived with suru, but most do if the stem is a free noun (and kaiten is). --Dine2017 (talk) 03:56, August 7, 2021 (EDT)

Hi, can you give your opinion at User talk:Shokora#Foreign title italicizing? I think the italicization of Japanese, Korean and Chinese titles in {{foreign names}} looks ugly, but I'm not sure about other scripts like Hebrew. --Dine2017 (talk) 03:22, August 10, 2021 (EDT)

How should we romanize マンタロウ and エイジロウ? Since the タロウ and ジロウ parts are from "native" given names 太郎 and 次郎, I would romanize them as Mantarō and Eijirō, but some editors seem to follow the katakana convention outlined in MarioWiki:Japanese#Long vowels and write Mantarou and Eijirou. Should we clarify this issue on MW:JP? (On the other hand, people may be justified pronouncing such katakana names literally, without knowing their derivation. So if some editors pronounce them as Mantarou and Eijirou, I think they're justified romanizing them so.) --Dine2017 (talk) 10:14, August 24, 2021 (EDT)

YCW Fly Guy situation

Hi, I need some advice. I was adding the courses which the enemy Fly Guy appears in in Yoshi's Crafted World, but the Fly Guy enemy appears in too many courses, so I'm not really sure how to list them. Can you please help me? WildWario (talk) 05:25, August 12, 2021 (EDT)

Problems with Template:foreign names

The documentation of {{foreign names}} states that "it is advisable to provide a source". However, for characters like Mona with an established Chinese name, providing a source might make the reader think that the name only appears in the particular game mentioned in the source. How do I say that the name 莫娜 Mònà is universally used?

Another question: The name 莫娜 Mònà for Mona happens to be the same in Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese. In this case, is it better to have separate |ChiS= and |ChiT= or is it better to use a single |Chi= for both? --Dine2017 (talk) 05:37, August 20, 2021 (EDT)

Mantarou

Be that as it may, マンタロウ is not マンタロー, and as such the JapR section at the very least should be written as "ou" for orthographic accuracy. That internal name supports this. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:50, August 25, 2021 (EDT)

Very well, I suppose. It itches my OCD a bit, but I guess that's just life. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:22, August 25, 2021 (EDT)

Kamek Tour

I will return back the trivia if all the cups were already filled up in this table.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.158.41.220 (talk).

That's exactly why this trivia is unnecessary; the table would already show that the cup consists entirely of RMX courses, so pointing it out would be redundant. Mario JC 07:11, August 25, 2021 (EDT)

Adding games to the list of games page

Hey, so I'm sure you might remember me from those 20+ Mario flash games that I made. Well, it's been a few weeks, and I was wondering if you could possibly add them to the list of games page, since the only one that's been added is Mario Trivia. Do you think you could do that?--JacobH.5840 (talk) 01:27, August 27, 2021 (EDT)

Return of the Vandals

It seems like two vandals have began vandalizing the Feed and Seed and Sneed pages. These two pages seemed to have been targets of vandalism before, and looking through the page history, I think this may be the same vandal using different accounts. Can you help check these users? Also, what is the connection between these pages and Chargin' Chucks? WildWario (talk) \ 05:45, August 30, 2021 (EDT)

It seems to be because of a place from The Simpsons called "Sneed's Feed and Seed formely Chuck's". Nightwicked Bowser 06:06, August 30, 2021 (EDT)

Oh, I don't watch the Simpsons, so I didn't know about this. Thanks for letting me know. WildWario (talk) 08:33, August 30, 2021 (EDT)

Underwater

I'm planning on creating a page based on the underwater sections in the Mario Kart games. Is that ok? I also asked Alex95 for his opinion. I felt it will be better if there were multiple opinions. WildWario (talk) 06:48, August 31, 2021 (EDT)

Oh, I just thought it was weird, as gliding and anti-gravity had their own articles while underwater didn't. Though, the Anti-gravity article is also kind of a list itself. The reason I wanted to make this page was because most of the course pages don't really mention some of the underwater sections. For example, Maka Wuhu. My idea was to make it like the anti-gravity article. WildWario (talk) 08:55, August 31, 2021 (EDT)

I'm sorry

Hello, I just wanted to say: I am so sorry about using my account and IP address to make a show of telling myself off. I feel so guilty about it, I won't ever do it again. Everyone makes mistakes, let's move on. ItsMarioTime! (talk) 11:15, September 3, 2021 (EDT)

question

Hi, why did you retev my edit in Donkey Kong Country 2?--Toad is Free! (talk) 06:46, September 6, 2021 (EDT)

Paris 2021 Tour

The developers accidentally put Pauline Rose in the icon instead of Rosalina since that is the latter's cup not the former in the RMX Rainbow Road 1R. 136.158.41.220 05:56, September 9, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

Coverage of quotes

According to SMW:NPC, information about nameless Minor NPCs can be incorporated into a place or species article. When I expanded Koopa Village#Residents, I found that the quotations took so much space that I have to make the table collapsed by default. Is it better to list every quotation for the nameless characters (like this article currently does), or is it better to show only a part of the quotations? Or maybe it is better to omit the quotations altogether and paraphrase them using my own words? --Dine2017 (talk) 13:41, September 9, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you for your reply. I was a bit worried about disproportionately filling an article which was otherwise a secondary source (our own description of the Marioverse) with lots of primary sources (quotes from the Marioverse itself). Most Paper Mario quotes are centralized on the List of Paper Mario quotes page instead of on the articles for the individual characters, so I was wondering if I should do so for the nameless Minor NPCs too. --Dine2017 (talk) 03:35, September 11, 2021 (EDT)

Warioware Microgame (one of 9-Volt's microgames) in Get it Together

There is no 3DS or its cartridge even though the models and artworks are based on WarioWare Gold. 136.158.41.220 09:47, September 11, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

You're just repeating what you added to the page, so I don't see your point. Pointing out something that you think is supposed to be there isn't trivia-worthy information, and what do you mean it "uses 3DS models, artwork, and sprites"? Mario JC 09:53, September 11, 2021 (EDT)

SMB Ground Theme

Is it okay if I create a "Mario theme song" page and redirect it to the "Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.)" page? Searching "mario theme song" on YouTube seems to bring up the original Ground Theme. Dwhitney (talk) 21:46, September 11, 2021 (EDT)

Splatoon 2 microgame

How do you translate "Who won" in Japanese? (Hint: Hear the announcer saying Who won? in Japanese) 136.158.41.220 02:18, September 12, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

It's「いろが おおいのは どっち？」(Iro ga ooi no wa docchi?, "Which colour is the most?"). You don't need to hear it, the text appears on-screen. Mario JC 02:54, September 12, 2021 (EDT)

Microgame translations (hiragana or karakana)

Are the microgame conditions in katakana or hiragana? 136.158.41.220 03:08, September 12, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

Don't edit other users' comments, please. It's as I wrote it, in hiragana. Mario JC 03:17, September 12, 2021 (EDT)

WWSM (WarioWare Smooth Moves)

Where did you get those faster photos instead of the description? So can you please find other pictures of speed-up events in all WarioWare games? 136.158.41.220 08:48, September 12, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

Map Exploring

I turns out that the Los Angeles Laps courses are very weird when clipped under the map. Here's the link to the video. Should this be in the Los Angeles Laps articles? Also, does the huge puddle in Cheep-Cheep Island count as an underwater section? WildWario (talk) 02:22, September 13, 2021

Can you please answer my questions? I really need your help. WildWario (talk) 08:27, September 13, 2021

Sorry for rushing you, I have some personal stuff to handle until tomorrow, so I wouldn't be able to read your reply. WildWario (talk) 08:55, September 13, 2021

User sub-pages

I've seen some users create sub-pages for themselves that are mostly for their own fun purpose. I'm thinking of creating one too, but are these allowed? Also, thanks for reminding me about deleting the file redirects.WildWario (talk) 23:10, September 14, 2021

Then are User:MatiasNTRM's sub-pages allowed? He has several of them. WildWario (talk) 23:19, September 14, 2021

Talk

Hello Mario jc. Just letting you know that I've added some details in the talk page about the WarioWare: Twisted! microgame in Smooth Moves. Come by when you have the chance. Juju1995 (talk) 09:10, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

The movie about animal croosing

Acording to wikipedia, Wikipedia:Dōbutsu no Mori (Film) a 2006 animated japanese film. Did you know Dobutsu no mori is not a game?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by 45.155.89.78 (talk).

WarioWare Prezzies

Since I found the prezzies shown in the microgames such as a strand of hair, curry, robot, and hamburger. Can you and the others find the prezzies found in the microgames? 136.158.41.220 05:04, September 18, 2021 (EDT)136.158.41.220

Two questions

• Would it be possible to add parameters like |Jap2=, |Jap2R=, |Jap2M=, |Jap3=, |Jap3R=, |Jap3M=, etc. to the {{foreign names}} template to eliminate the need of manual formatting when there are multiple Japanese names?
• Is there any plan to make tables in the mainspace responsive, or is there any provision in the wiki syntax for that?

--Dine2017 (talk) 06:09, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you for adding these parameters, but it seems that other languages like Chinese also suffer from the problem. Also, I'm not sure whether the naming convention of |Jap2R= or |JapR2= is better... maybe it's better to ask for community input first? (Which is something I'm unable to do because Discord is blocked in China.) --Dine2017 (talk) 08:49, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

Jokes, baby!

Hey. I'm adding inappropriate language to pages and I'm passing them off as jokes. I hope you like it! https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Pac-Man&oldid=3464923 81.110.120.177 11:15, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

Kamek's Zoom Broom

Why does it look like a kart instead of a bike or tricycle (since two tires are in the front while the other two tires are attached)? (I was saying) Pierce Ng (talk) 22:54, September 19, 2021 (EDT)Pierce Ng

WWGIT Speed Up gallery

Thanks Pierce Ng (talk) 23:20, September 19, 2021 (EDT)Pierce Ng

WarioWare Twisted microgame

Does the WarioWare: Twisted! microgame in WarioWare: Get It Together! count as a returning microgame? WildWario (talk) 23:33, September 21, 2021 (EDT)

Userbox

I just changed my userbox, can you change it on your page? Bubbasour11

Mii

Are Miis playable outside of Story Mode in Mario Golf: Super Rush, as they aren't listed as playable characters on the Mario Golf: Super Rush article. I don't have the game so I can't check. Also, this is unrelated to my question, but didn't you make a proposal about Mona's Pizza several days ago? If you did, then the proposals section of your userpage isn't updated yet.WildWario (talk) 02:16, September 24, 2021

Ok. WildWario (talk) 02:29, September 24, 2021

SMS Charles Martinet as Isle Delfino ad proof

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/15509006?t=55m35s It’s at about min 55:35, don’t know how to put/ref it on the page --ÜberSFX (talk) 13:03, September 24, 2021 (EDT)

Stub articles

Hi, would you mind restoring the Wildweather Woods article? I was actually committed to working on the information for the holes before you deleted it. ^(T|C) 22:20, September 25, 2021 (EDT)

Thanks! I'll do my best to make sure it's complete aside from images of the holes. ^(T|C) 22:30, September 25, 2021 (EDT)

Renaming files

Hello and thanks for helping me out last time! I noticed that the names for the files I uploaded are inconsistent and not as efficient as the other files, so if possible, could you rename them for me? It bothers me.

I rushed uploading the files and I feel stupid because of that. Sorry for all the trouble. TrulyWhever (talk) 22:42, September 27, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you, now the files that I specifically uploaded don't look out of place, I guess I should have also mentioned that "logo" was not capitalized in the Woody Woods section, but I do appreciate you for cleaning my mess up for me. TrulyWhever (talk) 2:22, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Mind deleting this? I made it on impulse, I think that it is unnecessary and I don't want to do anything with it. I have decided to stop uploading files so this is my last request. (Also sorry for not "starting a new section" for my last message) TrulyWhever (talk) 1:12, September 29, 2021 (EDT)

References

I see both informations about Gloomy Galleon. For you, is a evidence which this level is the remains of Crocodile Isle? Because the Gangplank Galleon sinks to the bottom of the ocean, along with the rest of this island.

<ref>''Donkey Kong 64'' Instruction Booklet, Nintendo, 2004, p. 18 "'''''GLOOMY GALLEON''' Prepare to get your flea-ridden fur wet as you dive down into the murkydepths of the reptilian lagoons. You won't be the only thing down there though, as the gloomy, rotting remains of the King's once proud armada lie waiting to be explored - truly an enlightening experience. Elsewhere, you'll find a hulking structure that's a bit dim and doesn't work. Yes, I know you already know about Chunky, but this is also true of an eerie lighthouse. Let's see if you can get them both working and be of some use.''" (Cranky Kong)</ref> <ref>M. Arakawa. ''Donkey Kong 64'' Player's Guide. Page 61. "'''''GLOOMY GALLEON''' Deep in a forgotten cove, a darkened lighthouse presides over still waters. Kremlings lurk in shipwrecked galleys, the shattered hulls breached on beaches and wallowing in murky depths. Take a deep breath...''"</ref>

ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 15:42, September 29, 2021 (EDT)

Mega bug hand crusher

Is there any boss characters aside from Master hand Pierce Ng (talk) 21:34, September 29, 2021 (EDT)Pierce Ng