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Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • Voting periods last for two weeks, but can close early or be extended (see below).
  • Any autoconfirmed user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so.
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. While only autoconfirmed users can comment on proposals, anyone is free to comment on talk page proposals.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
  5. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  6. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  7. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  8. Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
  9. If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
    • Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
  10. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  11. If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
  12. If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
    • Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
  13. Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
  14. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  15. After a proposal or talk page proposal passes, it is added to the corresponding list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
  16. If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
  17. Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  18. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  19. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
  20. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  21. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 14 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "November 24, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)
Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024)
^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024)
Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024)
Use the classic and classic-link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024)
Split articles for the alternate-named reskins from All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 3, 2024)
Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024)
Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024)
Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024)
Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024)
Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024)
^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.
Remove identifiers for Steve (NES Open Tournament Golf) and Ike (The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!), Starluxe (ended November 21, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024)
Split Banana Peel from Banana, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2024)
Merge Spiked Thwomp with Thwomp, Blinker (ended November 2, 2024)
Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024)
Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024)
Create articles for "Ashita ni Nattara" and "Banana Tengoku" or list them in List of Donkey Kong Country (television series) songs, Starluxe (ended November 23, 2024)

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Rename instances of "Cancelled games and vaporware" to "Unreleased media"

The current name "Cancelled[sic] games and vaporware" does not cover other unreleased media of the Mario franchise. This leaves information such as the failed Mario Archie comic pitch floating out there when it should be covered alongside the games. Fortunately, we can simply broaden the scope of those pages and categories by simply renaming them to "List of unreleased media" so we can find a home for these related media while retaining the focus on covering the dead games and games in purgatory. Also, in the future, we may discover more nongame media that never had the chance to see the light of the day, so it is best we make the change now. The distinction of tech demos will still be made, so there shouldn't be a question of those either.

Articles affected

Proposer: Bazooka Mario (talk)
Deadline: April 10, 2016, 23:59 (GMT)

Support

  1. Bazooka Mario (talk)
  2. Tucayo (talk) - Per proposal. The name even sounds better.
  3. Baby Luigi (talk) Per all
  4. Mister Wu (talk) Broader scope is good, and I like it to cover also other unreleased media so that its retrieval is easier!
  5. 3D Player 2010 (talk) Per all
  6. LudwigVon (talk) - Per all.
  7. Cheat-master30 (talk) Sure, sounds good. Easier to type and remember too.
  8. Niiue (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Comments

Question about the category - are you intending for Cat:Cancelled Games to be removed entirely, or made a subcategory of Cat:Unreleased media (possibly renamed to Cat:Unreleased games)? - Reboot (talk) 20:50, 3 April 2016 (EDT)

Good question, but for the time being, we'll have to rename it to "unreleased media" because the only nongame stuff I'm aware of is the Super Mario Archie pitch so there's no point in having two nearly identical categories for the time being. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 10:05, 4 April 2016 (EDT)
I was suggesting having Cat:Unreleased media containing Cat:Unreleased games (or Cancelled games), not double-catting. Doing this would allow the unreleased games category to be sorted in Category:Games (specifically, continuing to be in Category:Games by misc. status) without putting the Archie comic under Cat:Games or losing that part of the category tree. - Reboot (talk) 15:06, 5 April 2016 (EDT)
Hm, my concern would be the amount of media. From what I'm thinking, we're going to get a category with one known item and a link to Category:Unreleased Games, and by category standards, it doesn't contain enough items to be its own category. It's definitely worth thinking about, although I do think Category:Games by misc. status could stand to lose unreleased games just for the sake of a neater inclusion of nongame media. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 21:32, 5 April 2016 (EDT)
See, if it was going to be removed from the Cat:Games tree, I'd have to oppose. I think Cancelled/Unreleased games definitely need to be categorised in there as such. - Reboot (talk) 08:34, 6 April 2016 (EDT)
Hm, I'll think of something. I'm not going to remove it from the Games category, and I'm also iffy on doing it in the first place. I think I'll incorporate your idea just for now, and we'll see how this goes. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:38, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

Would this include changing all instances of "cancelled" to "canceled"? This isn't even part of the proposal proper, but I noticed the request to rename the page to "canceled" and from what I've seen, "cancelled" is the most common spelling of the word on this wiki. Toad's sprite in Excitebike: Bun Bun Mario Battle wow it's Kiryu (TC) 00:41, 8 April 2016 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

Implement or Delete {{Mario Party Board List}}

I created this template as a draft with the idea of placing it on every wiki page for Mario Party boards. I do not, however, want to put it on before passing this idea to the community. I think this template would allow for easier navigation and support its implementation for that reason.

Proposer: 3D Player 2010 (talk)
Deadline: April, 12, 2016, 23:59 GMT"

Implement

  1. 3D Player 2010 (talk) per proposal
  2. Bazooka Mario (talk) This definitely works and will benefit navigating the wiki although I must agree with my sister. Next time, create a draft page in your userspace first so you can edit and stuff without having other users possibly notice this template and then start using it, especially if you're just going to end up creating a proposal on its existence.
  3. Chocolate Mario (talk) Per Bazooka Mario.
  4. LudwigVon (talk) - Per Bazooka Mario.
  5. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) Per all.
  6. Cheat-master30 (talk) Seems extremely useful, implement it.

Delete

Comments

You should have created a specific draft page for your project before you create an official template. Anyway, your colors are all wrong. Look at how other Mario Party games format their cell colors (an example being Mario Party 5's nav template). Your first style background should be #FAFA00, not #FFFF00, and the second color should be #FFFF33. And if you're going to separate the boards into two categories, you need to specify and create specific cells for each type (split the single player and multiplayer boards into their own cells, not lumped under a single game). The text on the left cells should be centered and bolded. I do support the addition of a navtemplate for the Mario Party boards, as I think it could get one considering Mario Party is a big series, like Mario Kart, that probably should get navtemplates in a similar vein to how it gets racetracks, but please format it correctly when you create new navtemplates. BabyLuigiFire.pngRay Trace(T|C) 17:50, 5 April 2016 (EDT)

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