#{{User|Megadardery}} A separate page is unnecessary, every pre-release, unused stuff go on the list of beta elements. Per all
#{{User|Megadardery}} A separate page is unnecessary, every pre-release, unused stuff go on the list of beta elements. Per all
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Generally, per all. Broadly, SmashWiki is an affiliate of ours via NIWA, we could always either A. link off to their version of the article or B. see if SmashWiki would agree to an abridged version of that article to be added to our beta elements page, with a link back to them for the full story. Flow of information and all that.
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Generally, per all. Broadly, SmashWiki is an affiliate of ours via NIWA, we could always either A. link off to their version of the article or B. see if SmashWiki would agree to an abridged version of that article to be added to our beta elements page, with a link back to them for the full story. Flow of information and all that.
#{{User|Bluetoad63}} Per Ashley.
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Basic proposal formatting
Copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the proposal deadline will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT
====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
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Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's heading, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.
Delete Plumber (Discuss) Deadline: March 20, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Delete Plumb Fu (Discuss) Deadline: March 20, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Split the Pipe Frame and/or the Gold Standard from Kart (Discuss) Deadline: March 21, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Delete Door. (Discuss) Deadline: March 25, 2014 23:59 GMT
Delete Sun. (Discuss) Deadline: March 26, 2014 23:59 GMT
Delete Planet. (Discuss) Deadline: March 29, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Delete Pasta. (Discuss) Deadline: March 29, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Writing Guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
Mobile View
Quite a while ago the following proposal was made on the MarioWiki, back then it was denied by most people. Right now I'm proposing a very smiliar but yet different idea. While I'm not suggesting an iPhone app (that was in the original proposal.) I however do suggest to make a mobile version of the site. Using the MobileFrontend extension it is possible to make a mobile version of the wiki. For an example of how it would look like: Go to Mobile Wikipedia if you want to see how it looks. Proposer: ExPower (talk) Deadline: March 17, 2014, 23:59 GMT
Support
ExPower (talk) It makes quickly editing a section easily, while not necessarily creating an entire app.
Mario7 (talk) This would be great. It would save loading times and look nice. And besides, there is no reason to oppose. We don't have to do the work, yet there would still be many benefits.
Oppose
Randombob-omb4761 (talk) Sorry, but that's very uneeded. You can still look up the MarioWiki on the Internet.
Mario (talk) I used MarioWiki in my phone, and aside from the stupid ads (due to lack of adblocker) and long loading times for, like, Mario, I don't think it's REALLY necessary. It's nice, but Wikipedia has a mobile version because it's so much more visited than MarioWiki, which appeals to a more niche audience. I don't think it's worth it to go through the pains to create a mobile version of this wiki. Whatever Randombob-omb is saying is silly, though.
Ashley and Red (talk) I am using right now, and I always use it on my smartphone. It is hard to load long pages, but it loads. The only problem for me is the edit box: It glitch all times that passes 100 lines. After it, I can't edit.
Ghost Jam (talk) As the site policy is currently written, a passed proposal basically becomes a mini-policy and must be followed. I'm voting against this because I'm not keen on forcing users into developing apps they may or may not have any interest in. There is also the issue of having someone on hand with app development experience and the overall dubious need for such a thing. All that said, if you are offering to develop this thing yourself and are basically asking for permission, I'd advise you to contact Steve or a member of staff directly.
@Mario: SILLY!??????!!!! I'm very certain that it's uneeded, do you call that silly!?. Randombob-omb4761 (talk)
Your only statement to back up your opinion is, "You can still look up the MarioWiki on the Internet." Mario (talk)
Yeah, lol, you need the internet to access MarioWiki :P Baby Luigi (talk)
Reading the oppositions I understand that it seems like a lot of work, trust me, all you have to do is to change a few lines in a file and upload a folder, that's it (I've done it on my own wiki)
Does it cost any more? This kind of stuff, I think you should discuss with Steve, because I have no knowledge how this works. Mario (talk)
Nope that's it (I would do it myself but I don't have ftp access (and let's leave it at that too.)) And who is Steve? ExPower (talk)
Steve (aka User:Porplemontage) is the proprietor of this wiki. You should probably talk to him about the technical aspect of this proposal. Time Turner (talk)
How, should I ask on his User Page or...? ExPower (talk)
Ashley and Red (talk) A sub-section in the Beta elements page should be better.
Baby Luigi (talk) Debug menus are pre-release stuff, that means they go on beta elements article.
Megadardery (talk) A separate page is unnecessary, every pre-release, unused stuff go on the list of beta elements. Per all
Ghost Jam (talk) Generally, per all. Broadly, SmashWiki is an affiliate of ours via NIWA, we could always either A. link off to their version of the article or B. see if SmashWiki would agree to an abridged version of that article to be added to our beta elements page, with a link back to them for the full story. Flow of information and all that.
