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    Rocky Wrench‎ 15:32 −100‎ ‎Doc von Schmeltwick talk contribs‎ (Again, though, later Shellcreeper art made it look like Koopa Troopas despite older art looking very different. You can't be based on something that was based off of you; retrofitting is a different concept than origin. Much like genetic evolution, idea evolution has a distinct starting and ending point. This is the starting point for Monty Moles, and Rocky Wrench was retrofitted traits like its model from it, not outright "based" on Monty Moles.)
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    Rocky Wrench‎ 15:29 +96‎ ‎Nintendo101 talk contribs‎ (I do not think this is incorrect. Monty Mole is derived from the original Rocky Wrench, but the redesigned Rocky Wrench introduced in New Super Mario Bros. Wii is pretty evidently based on Monty Mole, not the other way around. These aren't real organisms - unilateral "evolutionary" origins are not always the case.)
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    Rocky Wrench‎ 15:22 −50‎ ‎Doc von Schmeltwick talk contribs‎ (Except while that is a retrofit of a variant's own redesign (like with Shellcreeper appearances being redesigned to look more like Troopas), Monty is still the derivative, despite being quote-unquote "simpler." Like how Unshelled Koopa is "simpler" than Koopa Troopa but definitely the variant. And yes, it does contradict the proposal.)
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    Rocky Wrench‎ 15:19 +76‎ ‎Mario talk contribs‎ (??? hope this doesn't contradict proposal, i just need to clear up confusion and need to make clear that the new super mario bros. wii redesign IS derived from monty mole)
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    Rocky Wrench‎ 15:05 −30‎ ‎86.150.16.225 talk‎ Tag: Reverted

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