Talk:Orb

Merge Orbs that share names with pre-existing Mario Party series items with those items

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Merge these orbs with their item counterparts 9-0

When items were first introduced as a mechanic in the Mario Party series, they were just that, items, ranging from classic Mario items such as the Mushroom to new additions like the Skeleton Key. Come Mario Party 5, items were reworked into Orbs, then known as Capsules, which were basically the same as pre-existing items, except that they came in a small plastic orb (probably to fit with the gacha-like capsule machines added in the same game) and could sometimes be thrown onto spaces. Unsurprisingly, a lot of established items returned as Orbs: the Mushroom became the Mushroom Orb, the Warp Pipe became the Warp Pipe Orb, and the Cursed Mushroom became the Cursed Mushroom Orb. It must be emphasized that these Orbs are virtually identical in name, appearance, and effect to their ordinary item counterparts, except that they are contained within a plastic ball. The fact that the wiki currently considers these orbs to be ontologically distinct from the regular items they are based on is a little silly to me, and certainly hurts readability and regularly violates SMW:Once and only once, since these Orbs will (understandably) be mentioned on the articles of their non-Orb counterparts as well.

Working off of shared Japanese names between Orbs and their item counterparts, this proposal would merge the following articles:

• Boo-Away Orb → Gaddlight
• Cursed Mushroom Orb → Poison Mushroom (or a new Cursed Mushroom article, contingent on this proposal passing)
• Mushroom Orb → Mushroom
• Super 'Shroom Orb → Super Mushroom
• Warp Pipe Orb → Warp Pipe

It should be noted that this proposal makes no attempt to merge Orb articles that are visually or thematically distinct from items that have similar effects. While Mario Party 5's Lakitu Capsule may function similarly to a Plunder Chest, it's not a Plunder Chest, and simply mentioning that these two items work similarly is enough, just as it is for Mario Party DS' Snag Bag. This proposal only aims to merge the most clear-cut item-Orb counterparts, which depict the same item inside the plastic ball and act as a clear successor to those items.

Proposer: Pseudo (talk)
Deadline: November 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support: Merge these Orbs with their item counterparts

1. Pseudo (talk) Per proposal.
2. Nintendo101 (talk) Per proposal.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal; this makes sense to us, and it's a little surprising that this hasn't been done sooner considering the Once And Only Once Policy. All things considered, it feels like a pretty obvious merge... ;P
4. Exiled.Serenity (talk) Doing anything else would be silly and pedantic. We can't imagine what you would say on one page that is not effectively paraphrasing the other.
5. Sparks (talk) Per all.
6. Ray Trace (talk) Per proposal.
7. Tails777 (talk) Pretty much a reverse idea from something I brought up a while back. So yeah, I can agree to this.
8. ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per "once and only once".
9. EvieMaybe (talk) per proposal

Comments

I recall from those ZoomZike videos that using Orbs in 6/7 may grant the player coins. This isn't on the Orb page at all, and would probably be a small word tax on every page that gets merged since the item being an Orb would no longer be immediately obvious. Salmancer (talk) 18:03, November 1, 2024 (EDT)

This information should definitely be added to the Orb article itself rather than any individual Orb's article, especially since I believe that the number of coins that can be granted depends on the color category of the Orb, rather than the specific one, so it shouldn't affect the goals of this proposal. Pseudo (talk) (contributions) 18:07, November 1, 2024 (EDT)