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#{{User|Driftmaster130}}– Per all.
#{{User|Driftmaster130}}– Per all.
#{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}– although I agree that the template used to say that it applies to whoever concerned in the game is very messy.
#{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}}– although I agree that the template used to say that it applies to whoever concerned in the game is very messy.
#{{User|Madikoopa}} Per all. Besides, even though the template ''does'' look unprofessional, wouldn't we still have to put a conjecture template anyways?


====Comments====
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Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • Voting periods last for two weeks, but can close early or be extended (see below).
  • Any autoconfirmed user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so.
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.

How to

If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.

Rules

  1. Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
  2. Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
  3. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is acceptable (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
  8. If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
    • Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
  9. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  10. If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
  11. If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
    • Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
  12. Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
  13. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  14. After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
  15. If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
  16. Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  17. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  18. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
  19. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  20. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal formatting

Below is an example of what your proposal must look like. If you are unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. When updating the bracketed variables with actual information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary. 

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT

====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====

====Comments ([brief proposal title])====

Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To vote for an option, just insert #{{User|[your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal".

Talk page proposals

Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)
Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024)
^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024)
Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024)
Use the classic and classic link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024)
Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024)
Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024)
Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024)
Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024)
Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024)
^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.
Split off the Mario Kart Tour template(s), MightyMario (ended November 24, 2024)
Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024)
Stop integrating templates under the names of planets and areas in the Super Mario Galaxy games, Nintendo101 (ended December 25, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024)
Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024)
Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024)
Merge False Character and Fighting Polygon/Wireframe/Alloy/Mii Teams into List of Super Smash Bros. series bosses, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended December 2, 2024)
Make changes to List of Smash Taunt characters, Hewer (ended December 27, 2024)
Merge Candy Block with Hard Block, Nintendo101 (ended December 31, 2024)
Merge ON/OFF Conveyor Belt with Conveyor Belt, PopitTart (ended January 1, 2025)

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

Make Template:Fakelink template

Since there is really many 3D games.. and there is too much models on this wiki that is classed as a sprite. So I porpose we create a template for them. I'm not so good with copyrights, but here is an almost a copy from {{game-sprite}}

Copyrighted game screenshot This is a model originally from a copyrighted computer or video game, and the copyright for it is most likely held by the company that developed the game. It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution models for identification and critical commentary on the computer or video game in question or the copyrighted character(s) depicted on the screenshot in question qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law, as such display does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material, is not being used to turn a profit in this context, and presents ideas that cannot be exhibited otherwise. See Copyrights and fair use rationale.

Proposer: Megadardery (talk)
Deadline: August 18, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Create The License and the category

  1. Megadardery (talk) Per proposal
  2. Tails777 (talk) They aren't sprites so a separate template for models seems like a good idea to me. Per proposal.
  3. Yoshi876 (talk) If they're different, have different templates. Per proposal.
  4. Madikoopa (talk) Per all.
  5. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Models aren't used very often, but it never hurts to have this template. I also disagree with YoshiKong. Creating this template will NOT be redundant and a waste of effort because these licensing templates also create a category for these images to go in. Lumping sprites and models in one category is messy, so this template can solve that problem too.
  6. Baby Luigi (talk) I strongly agree with this. BTW, there is a clear-cut difference between pre-rendered sprites and 3d models.

Rename the category to Game Sprites and Models

Do not create the License nor the category

  1. YoshiKong (talk) – I have regarded this idea with distaste in the past, where it was first brought up as an idea on a wiki collaboration forum thread. The idea of acknowledging the two kinds within image galleries, I'm completely fine with, mainly because it's a notion which is only needing to be changed once per gallery page, to comply with our policy. However, the fact that y'all are hoping to introduce a copyright license which is already legally covered by {{game-sprite}}, the only difference is a slight nameswap makes this template seem completely redundant, and a waste of effort to incorporate. And I don't agree that every user should be expected to correctly license every sprite/model which gets uploaded, and telling them off/continually correcting them would get excessively pedantic. It would be a lot more logical and save us all this unneeded hassle if we just modified our current sprite template to mention these fancy fashion models. And legally, we'd still be safe (which remember, is the whole point of driving licenses), not exactly keeping up with the latest rad words.
  2. GBAToad (talk) Per YoshiKong, he has a valid point. The obvious differences between sprites and models are regardless if they can both be legally classified under the same license. Creating another license to acknowledge these differences is highly superfluous and modifying the existing licence to accompany both sprites and models is the more logical thing to do.
  3. Tucayo (talk) - Per YoshiKong, the purpose of licenses is simply to be legally correct.
  4. Mario4Ever (talk) Per all.
  5. Iggy Koopa Jr (talk)Per all

Comments

What changes would you suggest to {{game-sprite}} - Megadardery (talk)

@YoshiKong: It's not the legal part I'm concerned about. Creating game-model also creates and automatically places a category that neatly places all game models into one page. We could manually add a game model category, but we still have this licensing thing that will lump models with sprites. LeftyGreenMario (talk)
Or we could call the category "Sprites and Models" but that still requires a ton of work. Baby Luigi (talk)
Yeah, Lot of unneeded work plus it would be still mess. A separate category plus a separate license is the best way to go (in my opinion) - Megadardery (talk)

Make "List of Quotes by Character" Pages

I think we should make "List of Quotes by Character" pages (with "Character" being replaced by the name of a specific character). All the information will go onto a Writing Guideline eventually, but in the mantime, I'll just provide the main ideas here for reference...

These pages would only be for recurring characters, as oneshot characters already have complete quote lists on their parent games' pages. Discretion should also be used when determining what recurring characters should get quotes pages. If a character is major in one game, but only has a few lines in another game or two, there is no point giving them a quote page either: just give them a Quotes section with {{main}} to the major appearance, as well as some choice quotes from that and all the quotes from the minor appearance. Similarly, if a character appears in many games, but they only have a couple lines in each one, just compile them into a small list that fits in a single Quotes section (like how no separate list pages are needed when there's only one or two glitches or beta elements). Character with quotes list pages should also get Quotes sections linking to the lists with {{Main}}, with a small sample of notable or characteristic (oft-repeated) quotes (in accordance with MarioWiki:Empty Section Policy).

Each quote page will have a standardized header: "This is a list of quotes by [[character]]." (this will be added to MarioWiki:Subpages Policy). The first section will be "General", and list quotes that appear in more than one appearance; if they only occur a couple times, the appearances can be listed (put these quotes at the bottom), but otherwise, just leave them. Try to put the most stereotypical quotes at the top (i.e. "Mama Mia" for Mario, "Help me, Mario!" for Peach, etc.), and remember that generic quotes are allowed here - just not things like screams ("ahhh"), nonsense and other stuff that sheds absolutely no light on the character ("hi", "okay", etc.); when in doubt, or when there's disagreement, take it to the talk page. After that section, go by genre/media type: Platformers first, since they usually have less quotes, and after that comes Sports, then Spinoffs (including all the random things), then the RPGs (since these are likely to be the big, hefty sections), then the "Non-game appearances", and finally, a Misc. section for commercials ("Mario, Mario, Mario ja nai!" - Peach, NSLU), websites, and other things like that.. Specific series may be given headers, and specific games too, if they produce a large amount of quotes (typically, games sections will be reserved for the RPGs; spinoffs and sports will at least get series headers often, I suspect); otherwise, just put what game each quote is from following the quote All sections should follow the "unsorted" quotes; use chronological order for everything at every level as much as possible. For the non-game appearances, sections can be given for the different shows, movies, publications, etc., or just list them "unsorted" like the games/series with few quotes.

Pretty sure that's everything. But again, the real proposal part's the first paragraph, so if that's all you read, you got the idea.

Proposer: Walkazo (talk) (prompted by Megadardery (talk) and Yoshi876 (talk))
Deadline: August 18, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Walkazo (talk) - Per me. I've had this idea for years and have been mulling it over in earnest since this proposal happened...
  2. GBAToad (talk) Per Walkazo.
  3. Zero777 (talk) Seems like a pretty solid proposal. I'll support it! It's a good idea to have a separate page for that because putting a large list on the parent article clutters the place up and takes up too much space which can be bad for people with low bandwidth.
  4. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Huh, I always thought why didn't we have a separate page of quotes for characters like Mario. That should've been a standard years ago.
  5. Baby Luigi (talk) It's a pain in the ass to look for specific quotes by a certain character by looking in the games. This proposal solves this problem.
  6. Tails777 (talk) I was thinking about this myself and I feel it would be better to find quotes if one wanted to find one for a specific character. Per all.
  7. Tucayo (talk) - Per Walkazo.
  8. Megadardery (talk) - Exactly Per Walkazo, I thought about this idea when I saw all those construction templates on all quotes pages for many and many years. But she seems that she organized this idea more than me.
  9. Yoshi876 (talk) 100% agree with this, makes it easier to find certain quotes if you don't remember the game, but remember the character.
  10. Mario4Ever (talk) Per proposal.
  11. Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk) Per Yoshi876.
  12. Driftmaster130 (talk)– Per all, I'm sure a lot of people have had this idea in the past.
  13. Iggy Koopa Jr (talk)Perfextly understandable, and advantegeous.

Oppose

Comments

Excuse me, but what about quotes like those? - Megadardery (talk)

They should stay in the article. As for Mario characters, you should add the quotes into their page. LeftyGreenMario (talk)
Cool, should we make a Collab on the forum? - Megadardery (talk)

Removals

Disallow Usage of "Per All"

My proposal is simple. It is the disallow of "Per All" sentence in proposal. Instead The voter will need a few seconds to specify the the users.

Example: 

1. User1 (talk) Users should atleast have sometime reading the proposal before voting.
2. User2 (talk) Per User1
3. User3 (talk) Some Users may just want to vote, so they be called a participant in proposals.

Instead of: 

4. User4 (talk) Per All

He would say: 

4. User4 (talk) Per User1 and User3

He doesn't need to say Per User2, because User2 opinion is the same as User1

Proposer: Megadardery (talk)
Deadline: August 20, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Megadardery (talk) Per Above

Oppose

  1. Yoshi876 (talk) I don't see a good reason for it to be gotten rid of, and it'd be incredibly annoying if lots of users contribute to a proposal each with their own reasons for (dis)agreeing with something and you having to go, Per: User 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. if you agree with all of them.
  2. ThePremiumYoshi (talk) — Per all... uh, I mean, this is completely unnecessary. Per the user above.
  3. Marshal Dan Troop (talk) per all.
  4. Tails777 (talk) If the per all thing is removed, then people who's reason for agreeing/disagreeing with something is already mentioned, those people either can't vote or need to come up with a whole new reason. Agreeing with someone else just makes it easier.
  5. LeftyGreenMario (talk) This seems to be a needless hassle to be specific on who you're perring when you per all.
  6. Randombob-omb4761 (talk) This is Ridiculous.
  7. Walkazo (talk) - Per all. Having to list individuals is tedious and unnecessary, especially if lots of users make points you agree with. "Per all" isn't a cop-out, it's a perfectly valid vote.
  8. Driftmaster130 (talk)– The current system is fine, per all.
  9. Mario4Ever (talk) Per all.
  10. Tucayo (talk) - Per all.
  11. Iggy Koopa Jr (talk) This is preposterous. And additionally, how are you going to deal with users who will persist using "Per all"? Send a Warning? Possibly ban them?
  12. SuperYoshiBros (talk) Per all. (ha ha)

Comments

Most votes are 'Pers' after all. - Megadardery (talk) @Tail777 They can say Per someone - Megadardery (talk)

True, but agreeing with many people isn't a bad thing. Tails777 (talk)
Alright, I got it now. I'll withdraw the proposal by tomorrow. Keeping it wouldn't hurt - Megadardery (talk)

Changes

Moving pages like "Cat Mario" to "Cat Form" and so

Well this is my first proposal so I am going to attempt. I was linked here. I think that pages for Mario's forms (Raccoon, Cat etc.) should be renamed to like "Raccoon Form", putting the word "Form" at the end of Mario's form articles. Because some characters (like in SMB2 or NSMW) can also achieve the form, not just Mario. It would make more sense to just put for example "Cat Form" instead of "Cat Mario", since all the chars in NSMW can go Cat form. (that is an example, I mean for all of Mario's forms, even if it is only Mario that ever achieves them).

Proposer: Kuzey457 (talk)
Deadline: August 16, 2013 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Yoshi876 (talk) Per proposal.
  2. SuperYoshiBros (talk) I was actually thinking about this recently. Per all.
  3. Zero777 (talk) I agree, Mario isn't the only one who can obtain the powers of the fire flower. Plus that template at the top of those articles that say that it may also apply to a Luigi form is really ugly-looking, and, to me, unprofessional.

Oppose

  1. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Since nobody has answered my question about this making more conjectural names, I've decided to oppose any changes until Megadardery's and my question is cleared. Is Fire Form ever used?
  2. Walkazo (talk) - Per LGM: the forms always defaulting to "X Mario" has always bugged me a little, but conjecture is best avoided. Besides, afaik, the manuals all use "X Mario" as the term for the forms with the understanding that players know it applies to any other playable characters too - just as we know that these pages apply to all the characters. There's also the matter of Google traffic: folks are more likely to search "Fire Mario" than generic "Fire from", and searching for things like "Invincible Wario" or "Penguin Luigi" still bring our "X Mario" pages up as the top hits (with those non-Mario names in the {{diff}} template getting the boldface); maybe it'd still work with "X form", but maybe not.
  3. Tails777 (talk) Per all.
  4. Megadardery (talk) I'd like to have them like that, but they are conjecture.
  5. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Walkazo.
  6. Marshal Dan Troop (talk) Per all.
  7. Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk) Per Dardery.
  8. Sonic98 (talk) Per all.
  9. Driftmaster130 (talk)– Per all.
  10. Iggy Koopa Jr (talk)– although I agree that the template used to say that it applies to whoever concerned in the game is very messy.
  11. Madikoopa (talk) Per all. Besides, even though the template does look unprofessional, wouldn't we still have to put a conjecture template anyways?

Comments

If this passes, will {{diff}} have to be deleted? driftmaster130 (talk)

It'd be unneeded, so I'd say yes. Yoshi876 (talk)
No, it is necessary for other uses. like this - Megadardery (talk)

Stupid question, but is the name "Tanooki form" and "Fire form" ever used? LeftyGreenMario (talk)

I won't vote now, but isn't "Fire form" a conjecture name? - Megadardery (talk)

I was asking that... LeftyGreenMario (talk)
Sorry, I didn't understand you. better contact an admin before this proposal pass - Megadardery (talk)

Little note: I had to edit the way the proposer put his username so there was a link to his user talk page. If you must, change it back, but I'm pretty sure that's the rules. Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk)

Semi-Protect templates

Recently I have noticed that anons have done stupid things in the templates. Take [for example]. We don't want anons putting fake things in the templates. Or [about that?] We don't want them putting DS games in the Wii template either. It may not happen a lot, but it still happens and we don't want it.

Proposer: Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk)
Deadline: August 21, 2013, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk) Per my proposal. I still feel stupid I didn't do this earlier...

Oppose

  1. Walkazo (talk) - Per Megadardery in the comments. A couple bad edits is no reason for blanket protection of the templates: we're more likely to prevent good edits than bad edits from happening.
  2. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Megadardery's comment.
  3. Megadardery (talk) Per My comment

Iggy Koopa Jr (talk) A vandal is not so enormous a problem.

Comments

I got this idea in my mind before, but it is unbelievable to protect all the templates. If we have to protect some, we would protect high usage/complicated templates, mostly like Formatting Templates, Media Templates and Internal Link Templates. However, Navigation Templates, and Infobox Templates should never be protected, because maybe anonymous user finds a problem and tries to fix it. Beside all that, it is still easy to revert any vandal edit, other than complicated templates, because a vandal may make an edit, and another user fix a code somewhere else in the template. So it become hard -but not impossible- to revert it. This is nothing like the last proposal of semi-protecting the Glitches pages, because a vandal may add unreal glitch, which doesn't become hard but almost impossible because we wouldn't know if it is real or not, that is the reason our admins protected them in the first place. - Megadardery (talk)

I agree with Megadardery. The glitch lists were protected because they are often a target for vandalism and false info. It's true that anyone can add false information to templates as well, but it only happens once in a while (much less frequently than glitch pages), and are easy enough to revert. –driftmaster130 (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.

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