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There aren't rivals

I know this was touched on before and was left unresolved, but after some extensive play time i can confirm there isn't any rival order or rivals as a matter of fact as the information on the page doesn't match and none of the characters positions in a cup stay the same for 2 or more races. Also most of the time the rival listed doesn't appear, mainly meaning there aren't select characters that'll always appear. Unless someone can provide definite evidence rivals exist, could we get rid of the false information on the page. Cubeguy(talk)

Try checking in VS mode teams if there are set opponents Ray Trace^(T|C) 16:48, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

I have seen races where a certain character's rivals aren't always consistent. For example, in one race, Rosalina had Baby Peach and Metal Mario as her rivals, while in another, Larry and Donkey Kong were her rivals. Shy Guy's rivals were also quite random, if I recall correctly. M&SG (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

In my opinion there aren't always the same rivals: if you play more Versus round with the same characters (like Lakitu), you can see how the rivals changes: sometimes Waluigi was the rival, sometimes it was Rosalina, sometimes Pink Gold Peach... we should remove that section, it's false! In Mario Kart 8 the CPUs works like in Mario Kart DS: at random. Tsunami (talk)

I still can't see any match ups, i went and played mario kart 7 to see if they have rivals and there actually seem to be rivals in mario kart 7, several specific characters were present in each race and mainly stayed up in the top 3 ranks, i then went back to mario kart 8 and as i said, i couldn't find any match ups. Cubeguy(talk)

I raced exclusively as Koopa through the Grand Prix mode, and in every cup (including Mirror Mode, so 32 cups total), the first two characters in the starting lineup of the opening race were Toad and Yoshi, in that order. They weren't locks to get 2nd and 3rd in the cups, but they rarely finished outside the top 5. That being said, whenever I play versus mode with Koopa, Toad and Yoshi aren't guaranteed opponents. I'm guessing that these "rivals" only apply to Grand Prix. Any thoughts or similar experiences to that? (Also, I'm suggesting that Toad is also a rival of Koopa, which isn't currently listed, if any moderators get their eyes on this post.) picent (talk) 14:08, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

I have noticed that Toad and Donkey Kong were prone to be Yoshi's rivals, but for characters like Rosalina and Shy Guy, their rivals actually change per GP. This may mean that only certain characters have set rivals, while others do not. M&SG (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

Rosalina does not have Iggy as her rival... try watching this video and see if Iggy is a rival. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPTCvEDSAc If there are rivals, then it seems like Toadette and Peach are the rivals.

Seems like rivals are shown in grand prix in the MKTV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js7rKKotFj0 Baby Rosalina has Koopa Troopa and Toadette.

Wario is not one of Toadette's rivals, but Yoshi is.

OK, I play 150cc Mushroom and Shell Cup, 1st place with 60 points and 3 stars with Lakitu. I keep an eye on the rivals: Waluigi and Toadette (Mushroom), Pink Gold Peach and Rosalina (Shell). Only two of these four characters appears every cup. Baby Rosalina appears on both cups instead but was out from the top 3 (placed 5th I remember). But the spotlight character of today is Roy: in Mushroom Cup he was overally last with 7 points but in Shell Cup was overally 4th with 36 points. Seriously, what happens Roy? I think I'll play again tomorrowP.S. Someone just leaves 3 comments without a sign. Whoever you are, do you know how to sign in? Tsunami (talk)

SO after some more time i now can see rivals kinda but they still don't match up with the information on the page, they all seem to be completely random, now if im correct theres actually a guide book some stores sell for the gameif any one has it can they check to see if rivals are actually listed in there? - Cubeguy(talk)

Hidden Stat Table

A user designed a stat calculator for Mario Kart 8, and was able to implement the hidden stats. Whether or not the following is completely accurate remains to be seen though. The source can be found here. M&SG (talk) 09:01, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

Characters

Character Stats
Weight Class	Group	Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
Light		2.25	2.75	2.25	2.5	3.25	2.25	4.75	4.75	4.5	5	4.5	3
		2.75	3.25	2.75	3	3	2.75	4.25	4.25	4	4.5	4.25	2.75
Medium		3.25	3.75	3.25	3.5	2.75	3.25	3.75	3.75	3.5	4	4	2.5
		3.75	4.25	3.75	4	2.5	3.75	3.25	3.25	3	3.5	3.75	2.25
Heavy		4.25	4.75	4.25	4.5	2.25	4.25	2.75	2.75	2.5	3	3.5	2
		4.25	4.75	4.25	4.5	2	4.75	2.75	2.75	2.5	3	3.25	1.75
		4.75	5.25	4.75	5	2	4.75	2.25	2.25	2	2.5	3.25	1.75

Vehicle Parts

Bodies
Karts		Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
	Standard Kart*	0
	Pipe Frame*	0	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.5	+0.5	+0.75	0	-0.5	+0.25
	Mach 8	+0.5	+0.25	+0.5	-0.25	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	-0.25	-1	-0.5
	Steel Driver	0	+0.5	0	-0.25	-0.5	+0.5	-0.5	+0.75	-0.25	-0.75	+0.5	-0.75
	Cat Cruiser	0
	Circuit Special*	+0.5	+0.25	+0.5	-0.25	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	-0.25	-1	-0.5
	Tri-Speeder	0	+0.5	0	-0.25	-0.5	+0.5	-0.5	+0.75	-0.25	-0.75	+0.5	-0.75
	Badwagon	0	+0.5	0	-0.25	-0.5	+0.5	-0.5	+0.75	-0.25	-0.75	+0.5	-0.75
	Prancer	0
	Biddybuggy*	-0.75	+0.5	+0.5	-0.25	+1.25	-0.5	+0.5	+0.75	+0.75	0	-0.25	+1
	Landship	-0.75	+0.5	+0.5	-0.25	+1.25	-0.5	+0.5	+0.75	+0.75	0	-0.25	+1
	Sneeker*	0
	Sports Coupe	+0.5	+0.25	+0.5	-0.25	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	-0.25	-1	-0.5
	Gold Standard	+0.5	+0.25	+0.5	-0.25	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	-0.25	-1	-0.5
Bikes		Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
	Standard Bike*	0	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.5	+0.5	+0.75	0	-0.5	+0.25
	Comet*+	0	0	0	-0.25	+0.75	-0.25	+0.75	+0.75	+0.75	+0.5	-1.25	+0.5
	Sport Bike*+	0	0	0	-0.25	+0.75	-0.25	+0.75	+0.75	+0.75	+0.5	-1.25	+0.5
	The Duke	0
	Flame Rider	0	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.5	+0.5	+0.75	0	-0.5	+0.25
	Varmint	0	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.5	+0.5	+0.75	0	-0.5	+0.25
	Mr. Scooty	-0.75	+0.5	+0.5	-0.25	+1.25	-0.5	+0.5	+0.75	+0.75	0	-0.25	+1
	Jet Bike+	0	0	0	-0.25	+0.75	-0.25	+0.75	+0.75	+0.75	+0.5	-1.25	+0.5
	Yoshi Bike+	0	0	0	-0.25	+0.75	-0.25	+0.75	+0.75	+0.75	+0.5	-1.25	+0.5
ATVs		Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
	Standard ATV*	0	+0.5	0	-0.25	-0.5	+0.5	-0.5	+0.75	-0.25	-0.75	+0.5	-0.75
	Wild Wiggler	0	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+0.5	+0.5	+0.75	0	-0.5	+0.25
	Teddy Buggy	0
Tires
Tire		Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
	Standard	0
	Monster	0	-0.5	-0.25	0	-0.5	+0.5	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75	+0.75	0
	Roller	-0.5	0	+0.5	-0.5	+1	-0.5	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+1.5
	Slim	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	0	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.5	+0.25
	Slick	+0.5	-1	+0.5	+0.5	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	0	-1	+0.25
	Metal	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.5	+0.5	0	0	0	0	-0.5	0
	Button	-0.5	0	+0.5	-0.5	+1	-0.5	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+1.5
	Off-Road	0
	Sponge	-0.25	-1	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	-0.25	-0.5	0	-0.25	+0.5	+0.75
	Wood	-0.25	-1	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	-0.25	-0.5	0	-0.25	+0.5	+0.75
	Cushion	-0.25	-1	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	-0.25	-0.25	-0.5	0	-0.25	+0.5	+0.75
	Blue Standard	0
	Hot Monster	0	-0.5	-0.25	0	-0.5	+0.5	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75	+0.75	0
	Azure Roller	-0.5	0	+0.5	-0.5	+1	-0.5	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	+1.5
	Crimson Slim	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.25	0	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.5	+0.25
	Cyber Slick	+0.5	-1	+0.5	+0.5	-0.25	+0.25	0	0	0	0	-1	+0.25
	Retro Off-Road	0
	Gold Tires	+0.25	-0.25	+0.25	+0.25	-0.5	+0.5	0	0	0	0	-0.5	0
Gliders
Glider		Ground Speed	Water Speed	Air Speed	Anti-Gravity Speed	Acceleration	Weight	Ground Handling	Water Handling	Air Handling	Anti-Gravity Handling	Traction	Mini-Turbo
	Super Glider*	0
	Cloud Glider	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Wario Wing	0
	Waddle Wing	0
	Peach Parasol**	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Parachute	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Parafoil	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Flower Glider	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Bowser Kite	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Plane Glider	0
	MKTV Parafoil	0	0	-0.25	0	+0.25	-0.25	0	0	+0.25	0	0	+0.25
	Gold Glider	0
Bold = Part is available at the start. · * = Changes color, depending on the character. · ** = Changes color for female characters only. · + = Can perform inside drifts.

New information: Unlockables

I have a bit of information I just discovered. But, seeing as I'm not "experienced" enough on SMWiki, I can't add to the article. Whoever can, please feel free to add this in my stead.

In the article, it says something along the lines of "Mii is always unlocked by getting gold in every cup in a class, like in Mario Kart 7." I've discovered that in addition to this, s/he can be unlocked by random like each of the other characters, in addition to the "every cup" method.

SuperSaiyanSonic (talk) 17:23, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

Added it. Thanks. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:30, 3 June 2014 (EDT)

Why is Mario Kart 8's page protected?

I was going to add a beta element and some glitches, but I find out that the page is protected so I cann't edit. Can someone remove the protection or edit for me? Tsunami (talk)

It's because the game was recently released.UhHuhAlrightDaisy (talk) 03:36, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

OK, I hope that I can edit soon... until the protection expires, I'll wait. Tsunami (talk)

It was mainly protected like other unreleased games to prevent loads of speculation going in. Wait until you're autoconfirmed which should be in a few days. Yoshi876 (talk)

I had some stuff to add too, but I'll wait I guess. I do want to note that someone added that all tracks are available in Battle Mode, without a source. Something that's so obviously false if you have the game.NoseOverdose (talk)

OK, someone adds the beta elements page, now can someone add the glitch page? Thanks! :) Tsunami (talk)

Unlockable Parts

The Unlockable Parts section says there are 48 unlockable parts (excluding golden), going regularly up to 3800 coins, but there are in fact only 38 (again, excluding golden), going up to 2800 coins. To verify, just count the list of parts for yourself.

That's true, there are 38 parts and 2800 Coins (I've reached that number of Coins in the game, I'm sure about that)! P.S. Whoever you are, remember to sign your username! Tsunami (talk)

Star Cup trophy

I'm not sure if anyone else has seen this, but on the back of the star cup there is a faded picture of Luma. Should this be trvia?--Poponana2 (talk) 15:52, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

Nah. It's just an obvious fact that anyone can see and isn't important enough to count as trivia. - 17:21, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

Unlocking characters

The part on unlocking characters says you can't unlock a character by completing the same GP at the same level twice, but this is inaccurate; if you win with more stars than you ever have before, you can unlock a character, even if you've unlocked a character at the same level before. So if you win the 100CC Mushroom cup with no stars, then win it again with 1 star, you'll unlock a character both times.--107.223.169.124 22:06, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

I don't know if it's true (I won all 50cc and 100cc throphies with 3 stars from the start), someone should prove it. Another question: if you get 3 stars in a trophy, completing it again with 3 stars means unlocking two cahracters? If everyone have unlocked at least 13 characters someone shall delete its data and try this. Or maybe buy the game again. ^_^ Tsunami (talk)

To answer your question no completing a 3 star twice wont unlock a character also a video from the youtube channel Gamexplain actually stated that only 1 character can be unlocked per completion of each cup. If i got this wrong its mainly because i havnt rewatched the video in its entirety because its a long video. - Cubeguy(talk)

Mario Kart Stadium Cover

In regards to the trivia point where it is stated that Mario Circuit is a cover of Mario Kart Stadium, where does this conclusion come from? Is it because Mario Kart Stadium is the first course that makes it the "original" theme? I would argue that it's the other way around, in which Mario Kart Stadium is a cover to Mario Circuit, for two reasons: One, this course is created first, as mentioned by the developers themselves. Two, this is the first course that is revealed (back in E3 2013), way before Mario Kart Stadium was revealed, so its theme is known first. This also applies to the point mentioned in Mario Circuit (Wii U), which stated the same thing.

This point is not necessarily relevant to what I am saying, but it reminded me of the point of Miyamoto's mentioning on making the first level last. Winstein (talk) 22:34, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

If anything, Mario Kart Stadium's theme is a cover of Mario Circuit since we heard that theme first. Tails777 Talk to me!

Glitch

I was playing in Toad Harbor and then in the anti-gravity section, I made the second jump and fell and landing on the second anti-gravity pad, I went right through it. I was playing with Daisy in Mirror mode, I don't know if that glitch works on any other character or if you play without mirror. Rosapuff (talk) 05:47, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

Thanks for the info, but you cann't edit the page... I have glitches to add, too, but until you become an autoconfirmed user (wait three days and apply five edits)/the page won't be protected anymore we cann't add this. I'll try it today. Tsunami (talk)

No luck in Time Trial. Can you upload a video proof on it when you be an autoconfirmed user? Tsunami (talk)

I can't reproduce this glitch in the game, it might have been a one-off, like in Mario kart 7 when i started mirror mode the game thought i was going off the map, really annoying...anyway video proof would be nice and maby some more specifics like the conditions you where in such as getting hit by an item, using a boost, getting rammed that kind of thing. - Cubeguy(talk)

This...

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlXXHX00g Should we mentioned it on the article or just a trivia? ^WoomyLuma 23:06, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

I don't know. Tsunami (talk)

Maybe a page called Mario Kart 8 Sponsors?^{Billy-Luigi Time!} 06:09, 8 June 2014 (EDT)

Blue shell gets confused=

Don't know how people have missed this, when the blue shell reaches a multiple path section, like rainbow roads split or dolphin shoals pipe section the blue shell is capable of taking the wrong path and missing the player in first requiring to do a full lap, this also applys to red shells. This mainly happens if you switch directions or in the case of the new rainbow road jump to another part of the course. So this is a rare glitch. - Cubeguy(talk)

That's true, I'll add it. Tsunami (talk)

Fake Item Box

I was playing online, I noticed that the player in front of me drove trough an item box got an item but the Item Box wasn't gone. So I picked it but I couldn't get my item faster if you know what I mean^{Billy-Luigi Time!} 06:12, 8 June 2014 (EDT)

So, you see an Item Box that you can't found in offline at you get an item by passing through it, but you cann't press the item button in order to receive the item faster. I got it right? If yes, ill add it to the glitches. Tsunami (talk)

Almost, They're on the same place as usual, offline or online but when you see someone taking that item bow and it isn't gone, then you can't get it faster^{Billy-Luigi Time!} 11:06, 8 June 2014 (EDT)

Videos of the Staff Ghosts

So, I decided to record and upload all the staff ghosts, IDK what you want to do with them, if anything, but I'll be adding them all to this playlist as I get them converted and uploaded, shouldn't be that long. Tell me if there's anything that can be changed, I tried to make it as concise as possible. NWPlayer123 5:38PM, 8 June 2014 (MST) A bit difficult I think... however, good work + luck! World of Tsunami!