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== Pruning ==
== Pruning ==
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This page currently covers all instances off white-colored Shies in the franchise, which is inconsistent with how we do the rest (except Black, which also needs cleaning up). I think that most items on here are generic enough (and pretty much equal with other colors in their respective games) to be merged to Shy Guy, just leaving behind the ally Shy Guy in ''Yoshi's Story''. Any objections? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:43, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
This page currently covers all instances off white-colored Shies in the franchise, which is inconsistent with how we do the rest (except Black, which also needs cleaning up). I think that most items on here are generic enough (and pretty much equal with other colors in their respective games) to be merged to Shy Guy, just leaving behind the ally Shy Guy in ''Yoshi's Story''. Any objections? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:43, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
:Sounds good to me. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 01:47, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
:Sounds good to me. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 01:47, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
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== Remove non-''Yoshi's Story'' information ==
== Remove non-''Yoshi's Story'' information ==


{{TPP}}
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|6-0|remove}}


See above. In ''Yoshi's Story'', this is a distinct ally entity. In the rest, it's treated equally to any other color of Shy Guy (or even worse, just be a variant that happens to wear white).
See above. In ''Yoshi's Story'', this is a distinct ally entity. In the rest, it's treated equally to any other color of Shy Guy (or even worse, just be a variant that happens to wear white).
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#[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) Per above
#[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) Per above
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Obsessive Mario Fan}} Per all.
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} - Per all.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} There's excess information since white Shy Guys are a color variant most of the time, though my suggestion is to use an identifier since it'll probably be better in the long run.


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
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===Comments===
===Comments===
Oh boy, do we need a "Shy Guy (species)" page? We have every other color of Yoshi pointed to [[Yoshi (species)]], even if some are distinct characters. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:15, February 12, 2020 (EST)
Oh boy, do we need a "Shy Guy (species)" page? We have every other color of Yoshi pointed to [[Yoshi (species)]], even if some are distinct characters. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:15, February 12, 2020 (EST)
:The main Shy Guy article is already the species article though. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:00, February 16, 2020 (EST)
Also: while the White Shy Guy is most notable for acting like an "ally entity" in ''Yoshi's Story'', you can have more than one on-screen (and the Nintendo Power guide refers to them in plural at least once, on page 17), suggesting that it's not one character. I do kind of worry that a casual reader would look at the separate White Shy Guy article and wonder why other white-colored Shy Guys are not mentioned. Perhaps a full merge would be better? Same with the game's Black Shy Guy. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:10, February 18, 2020 (EST)
:That may be something to consider for the future, but it's such a role difference that it would be a bit odd for, say, piping on templates and just organization on the page in general. As for the rest, there'd be an about template. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:27, February 18, 2020 (EST)
::Then if everything except ''Yoshi's Story'' content is trimmed from the article, would you add a ''Yoshi's Story'' identifier (same question if Anti Guy merges into a ''Paper Mario'' series-specific Black Shy Guy)? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:20, February 22, 2020 (EST)
:::Suppose there's no reason not to. Would "White Shy Guy" be better as a disambig, then? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:40, February 22, 2020 (EST)
::::Yes, I imagine it would look much like the Yellow Toad and Blue Toad disambig pages. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:27, February 22, 2020 (EST)

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I always thought the White Shy Guy was acharacter. One only appears at a time. - User: Ultimatetoad

I think your right, only one White Shy Guy is seen at a time, maybe it is an actual character. -- Sir Grodus

"ahem" besides that, when they/it does appear, it looks exactly the same (unlike Birdo) - User: Ultimatetoad

Uhh Koopas all seem the same. Goombas too. And they're species...more than one appear. A sprite of Mayor Penguin from Paper MarioPaper Jorge

BUT no White Shy Guys appear at the same time. Plenty of different Goombas and Koopas appear at the same time. - User: Ultimatetoad

I sort of think that he's/they're an individual character, too. The manual says "You have not seen too much of him before" and persistently calls him a "he" rather than a "them". --YellowYoshi398 19:55, 6 February 2007 (EST)

In Mario &Sonic in the olypic winter games The White Shy Guy in Frosttown can give you a ticket to continue.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Club Penguin (talk).

A white shy guy can revive Black and White Yoshi. You have to finish the game with white or black Yoshi for a white shy guy to revive them. But you have to do it before you finish the game with them or you will have to find them again.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tails777 (talk).

This is forum talk. Please don't chat on talk pages and chat in the forum instead. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC

That seems strange for the manual of the game call the White Shy Guy a "he". That probably happens with the Mario enemies on the instruction booklet of Super Mario Bros.. Besides the Cheep-Cheep is called a "she". Yoshi's Story promotional artwork: A White Shy GuyIceShadow talk · edits) 13:09, 11 July 2012 (EDT) 23:05, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

This page should cover a specific ally character, not a whole species. (see above) --ShyGuy12345 (talk) 02:38, 27 November 2018 (EST)

Pruning[edit]

This page currently covers all instances off white-colored Shies in the franchise, which is inconsistent with how we do the rest (except Black, which also needs cleaning up). I think that most items on here are generic enough (and pretty much equal with other colors in their respective games) to be merged to Shy Guy, just leaving behind the ally Shy Guy in Yoshi's Story. Any objections? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:43, April 22, 2019 (EDT)

Sounds good to me. Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 01:47, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
Me too. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 02:01, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
Sounds like a good ccompromise, even though they are intended to be the same iteration. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 13:04, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
What do you mean by that? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:09, April 22, 2019 (EDT)

Remove non-Yoshi's Story information[edit]

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remove 6-0

See above. In Yoshi's Story, this is a distinct ally entity. In the rest, it's treated equally to any other color of Shy Guy (or even worse, just be a variant that happens to wear white).

Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT

Support[edit]

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per above
  2. Power Flotzo (talk) Per proposal.
  3. Niiue (talk) Per proposal.
  4. Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) Per all.
  5. TheDarkStar (talk) - Per all.
  6. LinkTheLefty (talk) There's excess information since white Shy Guys are a color variant most of the time, though my suggestion is to use an identifier since it'll probably be better in the long run.

Oppose[edit]

Comments[edit]

Oh boy, do we need a "Shy Guy (species)" page? We have every other color of Yoshi pointed to Yoshi (species), even if some are distinct characters. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:15, February 12, 2020 (EST)

The main Shy Guy article is already the species article though. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:00, February 16, 2020 (EST)

Also: while the White Shy Guy is most notable for acting like an "ally entity" in Yoshi's Story, you can have more than one on-screen (and the Nintendo Power guide refers to them in plural at least once, on page 17), suggesting that it's not one character. I do kind of worry that a casual reader would look at the separate White Shy Guy article and wonder why other white-colored Shy Guys are not mentioned. Perhaps a full merge would be better? Same with the game's Black Shy Guy. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:10, February 18, 2020 (EST)

That may be something to consider for the future, but it's such a role difference that it would be a bit odd for, say, piping on templates and just organization on the page in general. As for the rest, there'd be an about template. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:27, February 18, 2020 (EST)
Then if everything except Yoshi's Story content is trimmed from the article, would you add a Yoshi's Story identifier (same question if Anti Guy merges into a Paper Mario series-specific Black Shy Guy)? LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:20, February 22, 2020 (EST)
Suppose there's no reason not to. Would "White Shy Guy" be better as a disambig, then? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:40, February 22, 2020 (EST)
Yes, I imagine it would look much like the Yellow Toad and Blue Toad disambig pages. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:27, February 22, 2020 (EST)