User talk:Seandwalsh

Welcome, Seandwalsh!

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Recent edits

Hey. We don't update the latest appearance until the game in question is released. So I ask you to stop doing so. Yoshi876 (talk)

Reminder

Please stop updating latest appearance incorrectly, even after being told on the Super Mario Wiki. This isn't a warning, and it's possible that you made a mistake by accident or without realizing it; this is simply a reminder for your information. If the action continues, then a warning will be issued. Thanks for reading and keep contributing. If you feel this reminder was undeserved, you may appeal it.

As I said above, we do not update the latest appearance until the game is released. If you continue to do so you will face warnings as well as a temporary ban. Yoshi876 (talk)

Uploads

I see you're having trouble getting the information correct on you pics, so here's some templates to help:

Hello, Seandwalsh. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly use the {{aboutfile}} template. What you were doing looks like this, and it is an inconvenience for other users to fix up the template. It is simple to learn how to format it correctly. The pre-loaded syntax is shown below. {{aboutfile |1=Subject of the image |2=Where you found the image |3=Artist |4=Describe edits, if any |5=Other versions (use file link) }} Just replace the necessary parts with that corresponding information, and remove the entire line for the parameter(s) you don't use. Please consider the above information before uploading more files. If you continue using {{aboutfile}} incorrectly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

Hello, Seandwalsh. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly categorize the file. It's simple to learn how to do so. Just search for the correct category by starting with the following groups: Images Audio/video files Company images Film images Game images Merchandise images Publication images System images Television series images Website images Company media files Film media files Game media files Merchandise media files Publication media files System media files Television series media files Website media files When uploading, copy the full title of the category and insert it in square brackets into the summary text box below the {{aboutfile}} template, replacing the {{uncategorized}} template entirely. If you're using the upload function from the text editor, simply add the category link to the description. For example, files related to the game Super Mario World would use: [[Category:Super Mario World images]] or [[Category:Super Mario World media files]] Please consider the above information before uploading more files. Keep in mind that some files can belong to multiple categories. Do not put images into the media files category, or vice versa. If you continue uploading files without categorizing them correctly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

12:32, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

I don't know what you mean by "edit it back", but I corrected the information for you. Be sure to go over the templates during your next uploads so the correct information is filled in.

Also, I'll take this time to tell you that italics are meant for titles of games/publications/etc. only and not for character or location names. 12:52, 5 October 2017 (EDT)

Hello, make sure you're using square brackets when adding an image category link, not curly brackets. Mario JC 00:15, November 21, 2020 (EST)

RE:Odyssey Question

Being an ultimate, big-time fan of Toadette for over three years now, I think that it's VERY fitting of Toadette's personality. Also, this isn't the first time Toadette was seen as an "archivist"; she showed similar traits in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. ^(T|C) 21:25, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

Say "Aye"

Hey, just an FYI, the phrase is "Those in favor say Aye", not "I". ("Those opposed say Nay"). That's all.
Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:07, 31 October 2017 (EDT)

Italics

Hello! When writing game titles, please remember to always italicize them by placing two apostrophes on either side of the title. Thanks! --TheFlameChomp (talk) 12:16, 2 November 2017 (EDT)

"You"

Just letting you know that you should avoid the use of "you" in articles, instead writing in third-person terms such as "the player" or using the character name. 10:12, 25 January 2018 (EST)

Oh shoot, sorry Alex! I know the rules about the usage of you in articles and it just slipped my mind. I'm sick at the moment so probably wasn't thinking. Sorry about that. --Seandwalsh (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2018 (EST)

No worries, hope you get better soon! 10:37, 25 January 2018 (EST)

Thanks! --Seandwalsh (talk) 11:25, 25 January 2018 (EST)

RE:Peachette

Personally, I don't think it's that bad, just that Toadette's abilities are copying those of another character's. Also, the Mario franchise is no stranger to characters copying other characters' abilities; Super Mario 64 DS, for example, has Mario's Cap, Luigi's Cap, and Wario's Cap, which the player can collect to make their current character appear and behave like the character that normally wears said cap. ^(T|C) 08:13, 14 September 2018 (EDT)

I’m aware of the Caps from Super Mario 64 DS. This is different however. This ability is exclusive to Toadette and instead of turning her into peach it makes he some sort of Peach/Toadette hybrid. Besides the power-up that I believe the direct called a “Super Crown” in the direct isn’t Peach’s crown it looks completely different. If there’s an explanation as to why Toadette has this ability in game I might be a bit more accepting of it. How does this crown turn someone into Peach? If Mario or Luigi was to hypothetically pick up this power-up would they also become a Princess Peach hybrid? I like the Mario lore and when something like this comes along out of nowhere it kinda takes away from that for me. Anyway that’s my bit over. thanks for the reply! --Seandwalsh (talk) 08:48, 14 September 2018 (EDT)

Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.

It was decided by the community that we are not citing the English Encyclopedia due to various uses of plagiarism. It has yet to enter the policy pages, but we're working on that. 15:36, 1 November 2018 (EDT)

Ah, I’m sorry. I did notice that some names especially were taken directly from here. (As some conjectural and translated unofficial names made it in). It’s disgraceful that that happened. I wasn’t aware of it when I made the change to MIPS’ page

RE:SMB Encylopedia

See this. Yoshi Egg 1990 15:37, 1 November 2018 (EDT)

Gwarhar Lagoon resident

Hi, just letting you know that we usually keep the non-proper names in conjectural titles lowercase (like Peach's frying pan). Please generate consensus on the talk page before making a move like this again. Thanks! ^(T|C) 11:40, 14 November 2018 (EST)

Hm, I see. Is there a specific reason for non-proper nouns in conjectural article titles to be uncapitalised? Personally, I can’t see anything benefiting from this choice. --Seandwalsh (talk) 11:53, 14 November 2018 (EST)

The game doesn't actually call these characters by name, so "resident" is improper. 11:57, 14 November 2018 (EST)

Even still, it is the title of the article. I don’t know about you guys, but I was taught from a very young age to always capitalise the first letter in each word in a title (unless said word is a “short” word). I would agree however that in the article itself, the word residents should not be capitalised. --Seandwalsh (talk) 12:08, 14 November 2018 (EST)

Talk to Porplemontage about it then. ^(T|C) 12:10, 14 November 2018 (EST)

This is to make sure it's known that it's generic and not proper. This isn't the title of a book in a bibliography. This is us linking to other small subjects within our own wiki. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:02, 14 November 2018 (EST)

Candy Cane

The next sentence of the Peach's Castle Grounds article goes into detail regarding a glitch about them, so I wonder if they're just generic eyed/striped hills or something? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:35, August 3, 2020 (EDT)

They are. They’re just the regular (Green and Blue, spotted) Mushroom Hill things seen in the other games (unfortunately. An actual Paper Mario reference would’ve been cool). --Seandwalsh (talk) 07:57, August 3, 2020 (EDT)

I see what you mean now. Perhaps a “Hill” page is in order? --Seandwalsh (talk) 08:02, August 3, 2020 (EDT)

Yoshis = Koopas?

I've seen your videos where you debunk MatPat's theories on the biology of Toads and Yoshis on YouTube. Given your denial on Yoshis being a species of Koopa in the latter video, how do you feel about the wiki now considering this as fact? ShootingStar7X (talk) 20:55, September 24, 2022 (EDT)

Seems like a mistake to me. Definitely needs a rewrite, as Yoshi is not an actual Koopa and the sources provided either link to mentions of scrapped concepts, moments where he's been called a turtle or instances where his shell is referenced. It's also claimed his shell is natural when that most definitely isn't the case. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. --Seandwalsh (talk) 04:52, September 25, 2022 (EDT)

No need for any changes—Doc von Schmeltwick and LinkTheLefty have explained the specifics on Swallow's talk page. ShootingStar7X (talk) 14:09, October 21, 2022 (EDT)

By the logic used there, Conkdors are Koopas. Mario is also a Koopa while wearing a shell in the many games where he does just that. I'm not denying that Yoshi had some turtle inspiration, or saying that he wasn't considered a Koopa badk when the concept of a rideable character was first drawn up during development of Super Mario Bros., but no content within the games indicates that Yoshi is a Koopa in any capacity. A distant Koopa relative, perhaps, but nothing more. --Seandwalsh (talk) 17:27, October 21, 2022 (EDT)

Sorry for the late reply, but looks like you were on the right train of though—the wiki now considers Yoshis to be related to Koopas and not a species of them. ShootingStar7X (talk) 08:46, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

That is, of course, pending possible further talk page discussion. Note that I also disagree with arguing with lead designers. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:24, October 29, 2022 (EDT)

External links

References and bibliographies are always placed at the end of an article (so under "External links"), and when adding new headers, any words that aren't proper nouns or the first word of the header should not be capitalised (so "Links" should be lowercase). Mario JC 12:16, April 27, 2023 (EDT)

In that case dozens of pages have them in the wrong order. --Seandwalsh (talk) 13:58, April 27, 2023 (EDT)

Magikamek

I know it's a major point of contention, but it's an objective fact that Japanese bios consistently list traits and appearances of what we call "Kamek" and "Magikoopa" interchangeably with no distinction whatsoever, so there's no real question on that front. I'll leave the SMRPG section as you had it for now, though, since that is more ambiguous. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:50, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

It is an objective fact that the same thing happens in the bios of other characters like Yoshi and Toad. That does not change the fact that all three of these characters are still considered distinct individuals within their species, regardless of region. "Kamek" the character has a specific role that does not apply to all "Kameks". --Seandwalsh (talk) 14:17, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

In Japanese, more often than not none of those three are. Semantics and translation are weird like that. It's kind of like how Koopa Kid in old Mario Party games is a singular character except when he isn't (and I'm not talking about "split into colors" version, I'm talking about "all colored like Bowser" versions). Anyways, I think we've got it whittled down to a good compromise at this point. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:19, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yet all three remain objectively as individual characters, which is the point. --Seandwalsh (talk) 19:58, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Not consistently though. The "individual character names" have been used in reference to clearly different individuals; most notably is the blue colored "Toad" in SM3DW, while every color of Yoshi is treated as "Yoshi, the character!" by Yoshi's Story's manual, despite there being eight at once and all just hatching for that story; also, MKT's yellow-colored "Yoshi (kangaroo)" being treated as "Yoshi" and not "Yellow Yoshi." And those aren't the only examples, just the most blatant. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:29, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

It is consistent. The Toad in Super Mario 3D World is "Toad", the green Yoshi in Yoshi’s Story is "Yoshi" the character. You just seem to have this penchant for homogenisation of characters that simply does not exist. --Seandwalsh (talk) 06:13, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

All Yoshis in Yoshi's Story are "Yoshi" the character. I'm just saying what the enclosed manual says. Are you saying the manual "does not exist?" Also, NSMBUDX did the same with calling the previous Blue Toad and Yellow Toad just "Toad," to the point they share a character slot. Does that "not exist" either? Nintendo has also repeatedly said that any given singular generic Yoshi is "Yoshi" the character, even if there are more around (in which case they are also "Yoshi" the character). Do Nintendo "not exist?" It seems to me more like you're simply ignoring evidence that does not fit your viewpoint. Anyways, I'm tired of this conversation. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 07:34, July 17, 2023 (EDT)