Talk:Donkey Kong Country (series)

Donkey Kong 3D?

Take a look at this photo and this website. There's a rumor that a Donkey Kong game (Probably a Country game is in the works for the 3DS. Is it really real? Akfamilyhome 04:30, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

Boxart has the art of the Kongs from DKCR, it seem like a mistake. So for now this is a rumor.

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Nintendo has confirmed...that this is not real. Well, at least we can say that there was a rumor of it. Akfamilyhome 04:52, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In a Nintendo Direct states a 3DS remake of DKCR. User:Sammy05

Split the remakes and ports

Since this proposal will split ports of the same name with substantial new content starting with Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Nintendo Switch) and Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (2018), I would think the case should apply to the rest of the Donkey Kong Country games. Certainly the Game Boy Advance versions as well as the Game Boy Color version of Donkey Kong Country all have new content that could be called fairly substantial, not unlike the Super Mario Advance series and Super Mario Bros. Deluxe. LinkTheLefty (talk) 02:34, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

If a port like New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat can have an article, then surely these ports can too! I hope they'll consider making pages for these GBA/GBC ports. --Metalex123 (talk) 02:50, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

Ok, if there was a proposal to split ports with basically almost not new content, then why there is still no page for the donkey kong country port the gbc and the remakes of the trilogy for the gba after three years. If one is sure this games has more new content than the donkey kong courntry tropical freeze port for the Nintendo Switch, so I dont see any reason to not do it.
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Stop considering Donkey Kong 64 an installment of the Donkey Kong country series

Template:SettledTPP Template:ProposalOutcome I find it bizarre that this wiki currently considers Donkey Kong 64 part of the Donkey Kong Country series. It does not bear the name Donkey Kong Country and plays very differently to every other Donkey Kong Country game with it being a 3D collectathon compared every single other game being 2D linear platformers. The Donkey Kong Land are far closer to being Donkey Kong Country games than this is yet those aren’t considered part of the series but this is. Furthermore there is no reference whatsoever to this even being part of the Donkey Kong Country series on this wiki’s page on DK64.

For those reasons above I there propose that this wiki stops considering Donkey Kong 64 a member of the Donkey Kong Country series.

Proposer: NSY (talk)
Deadline: February 26, 2022, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. NSY (talk) Per proposal
2. Koopa con Carne (talk) Per proposal. I always wondered why this game was covered here. I could not find a proposal to classify Donkey Kong 64 as a DKC title in either proposal archives.
3. Swallow (talk) Doesn't seem to be considered part of the series by Nintendo either.
4. Results May Vary (talk) I agree with this proposal, especially the point brought up about how Donkey Kong Land games are a lot similar in style but are not considered Donkey Kong Country titles (and were the Game Boy parallels to their respective SNES game).
5. Ray Trace (talk) Per all.
6. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
7. Bazooka Mario (talk) Just stick it with a "related series" section, as a standalone game, and also put on those DK spinoffs as well.
8. Hewer (talk) Per all, I'm surprised it wasn't already this way.

Comments

I do wanna point out that the production name "Donkey Kong World" implies at the very least an extension of "Country." Course, if we want a more definite answer, someone with a Twitter account (ie not me) could ask one of the Mayles brothers whether it is or not, since that'd be a "horse's mouth" situation. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:24, February 12, 2022 (EST)

Even that doesn't confirm anything for sure. Nightwicked Bowser 17:02, February 12, 2022 (EST)

I'll assume by "that" you mean the name thing, because creator intent would be the absolute definer here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:01, February 12, 2022 (EST)

What about Land 3 & Bros. 5/World 2? Otherwise, I agree. Donkey Kong 64 is also treated very much like a continuation of Rare's Country trilogy and should minimally be considered "related" like the aforementioned. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:43, February 19, 2022 (EST)

DK64 again

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The official Donkey Kong Portal (which only Nintendo UK seems to have) seems to list DK64 with the DKC games, having it between DKC3 and DKCR while the DKL games, KOS, classic arcade games, and ports are all listed separately. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:26, March 29, 2022 (EDT)

Split the four Rare remakes into their own articles

Template:SettledTPP Template:ProposalOutcome See a few sections above. While it is implied by a previous proposal these should be split anyway, my aim here is to make it an explicit goal. These are the GBC game and GBA games, for clarification.

Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
Deadline: April 21, 2022, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Per proposal
2. Waluigi Time (talk) Per proposal.
3. Hewer (talk) I've always been confused as to why these aren't split but other similar ports like Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Nintendo Switch) are.
4. Results May Vary (talk) Per Hewer.
5. Metalex123 (talk) Honestly I still find it surprising these versions never had pages tbh. Per all.
6. LinkTheLefty (talk) Sure, let's make it official.
7. Ray Trace (talk) Per all.
8. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
9. Swallow (talk) Consistancy.
10. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per proposal.

Comments

Interesting that this proposal be brought up, as I was just trying out this idea on Nintendo Wiki earlier today (and feel as if I'm being stalked because this proposal began on the same day :P). Assuming the proposal passes, is Mario Wiki going to reuse the articles I'm putting out on Nintendo Wiki or redo them ground-up? Results May Vary (talk) 22:58, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

I assure you it's a pure coincidence. They'll probably use the current SNES articles as a sort-of template, but not copypasting from another wiki. I don't roll like that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:01, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

One plan I currently have is to use the titles "Donkey Kong Country 2" and "Donkey Kong Country 3" for the Game Boy Advance versions' articles & clarify in an About template that the original SNES articles can be found at Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest and Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! respectively (also, somewhat unrelated but Porple's first edits were taking Mario-related articles from Wikipedia; I have been advised against Wikipedia reuse before, but I feel slightly vindicated when pointing out that this is how Mario Wiki began). Results May Vary (talk) 23:08, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

I'm probably just going to have them with identifiers since the "without subtitles" ones have been used many times to refer to the SNES games. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:28, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

Honestly, good point Results May Vary (talk) 23:30, April 6, 2022 (EDT)

Add Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, its derivatives, and New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat to the "Other related games" section

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Donkey Kong Jungle Beat has two variations of "DK Island Swing": an arrangement that plays in Dawn Savanna, the first level of the game; and a shortened variation that plays in the victory fanfare right after Donkey Kong defeats a boss. I was wondering if there's a possibility to add Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Donkey Kong: Jungle Fever, and Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom to the "Other related games" section from the Donkey Kong Country series article.

Proposer: GuntherBB (talk)
Deadline: December 15, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. GuntherBB (talk) Per proposal
2. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - I still think it's the functional in-between for the Rare games and the Retro games. Probably the only reason it doesn't have "Country" in the title is it was made in Japan, where they never had "Country" in the titles in the first place.
3. Super Game Gear (talk) Per Gunther and Doc. This is a similar situation to a related proposal of the Yoshi platforming games. Perhaps we can do Wario: Master of Disguise with the Wario Land series next.
4. Camwoodstock (talk) Makes sense to us. If an unmade, informally suggested Donkey Kong Country 4 gets to be a part of this article, why Jungle Beat isn't allowed as a token "related game" at the very least is beyond us. After all, Donkey Kong 64 is an actually released game that we include here despite its multitude of differences.
5. DesaMatt (talk) Per all.

Oppose

1. 7feetunder (talk) Aside from Barrel Cannons appearing exclusively in the Wii version, Jungle Beat has nothing to do with DKC aside from the generic monkey business of bananas and vine swinging. No, the presence of "DK Island Swing" (literally the proposer's only argument for this) does not make it a "related game". That's effectively just Donkey Kong's theme music now; it is not specific to DKC any more than the "Ground Theme" is specific to the original SMB. See Glowsquid's post here for a great explanation of how dissimilar Jungle Beat is from the DKC series.
2. Glowsquid (talk) - See my comment below.

Comments

@Camwoodstock: I don't feel strongly either way on this proposal, but uh, not mentioning the proposed Donkey Kong Country 4 on the Donkey Kong Country series article would be much stranger than not mentioning Jungle Beat. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 10:23, December 2, 2023 (EST)

Nevermind the mistranslated bit I quoted in that link above, the corrected translation of that Koizumi interview has him saying they didn't include characters from DKC games because (and je cite 2257's translation) "it is a completely new work with a personality uncharacteristic of previous Donkey Kong games".

The exact wording can be nitpicked, but all current translations made of that statement has the game's co-director saying it has new characters and setting because they aimed it to be something completely different from the DKC games. Doesn't make much sense to say they're related, in my mind. --Glowsquid (talk) 14:28, December 2, 2023 (EST)