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SMG fire-balls

I left another response on that conversation on my talk page, by the way, I wanted to get an opinion on that matter before making any further moves on it. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:17, February 6, 2025 (EST)

Moving torch

On the moving torch image, why is the middle of the flame completely transparent? It doesn't seem to look that way in-game. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:14, February 8, 2025 (EST)

It's just how the static texture looks when applied to the model. - Nintendo101 (talk) 13:49, February 8, 2025 (EST)

SMB3 sprites

My idea with the SMB3 static animated BG tiles is to put them consistently on what is considered the "first" frame internally, both for consistency on our end and because for most of them, that corresponds with how they look when a switch is hit and everything stops animating. Now I still have a jillion more assets prepped to upload, I had to stop because I had a headache. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:08, February 17, 2025 (EST)

You have been doing good work. My incentive in these articles is to provide a sincere and nice display for users, and whether or not each sprite represents the first frame in an animation is not particularly important to me. My intent is for the reader to understand what it looks like when they read the accompanying text. I will prioritize what I think looks nice as long as it remains an accurate display of what occurs during gameplay, which is why I have things like the Fire Bro spitting a fireball in the table rather than a static image of it still. It is visually a little more dynamic, and it more immediately communicates how it differs from normal Hammer Bros and related enemies. For Jelectro, I just prefer how its tentacles are positioned in the frame. - Nintendo101 (talk) 22:20, February 17, 2025 (EST)

Making your own sandbox

I was thinking about making my own sandbox. How is it done? ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 23:13, February 17, 2025 (EST)

Howdy! Sandboxes are extensions of your userpage. To make it the same way you would create a new article, by writing out its name first and then clicking on it to start making it. For sandboxes, you would write out its name as "your user name/your sandbox's name." For example, one of my sandboxes is User:Nintendo101/flowerpot. For you, you would write it out as User:ZanyDragon/sandbox. I hope that was straight forward. Let me know if any of that was unclear. - Nintendo101 (talk) 23:29, February 17, 2025 (EST)

Thank you so much. ZanyDragon (talk · edits)

SMB3 map icons

The plan I have is to have the prior inaccurate tile uploads remain as "world" and "world-link" template images because those work better with solid outlines and no ground color. For the actual galleries and such I'll upload more internally accurate ones. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:29, February 18, 2025 (EST)

I understand, but the one you replaced was the one used in world and world-link. - Nintendo101 (talk) 21:39, February 18, 2025 (EST)

It's not replaced. It's palette-corrected. The "replaced" one will be missing the black, not the brown. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:59, February 18, 2025 (EST)

Yes, I misspoke because I have not been getting much sleep. I did not notice it was the brown that was transparent until after the fact. But regardless, the one used in world and world-link should probably not have any transparent textures. - Nintendo101 (talk) 22:05, February 18, 2025 (EST)

In that case, the brown surrounding it should also be filled in so as to not break limitations. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:19, February 18, 2025 (EST)

No, because that is supposed to be the surrounding landscape in the Dark World. The pixels within the outline of the castle are supposed to be the castle's exterior.

I don't take issue with this on my own accord - other members of the community took issue with it because we all use the world and world-link template. If you want to upload something more earnest to how the asset is used, please do it as a separate file. - Nintendo101 (talk) 09:50, February 19, 2025 (EST)

I already did yesterday. The small one works better for the template since it doesn't need shrunk so badly. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:19, February 19, 2025 (EST)

Yeah, I caught that after the fact. Sorry. I am still a bit frazzled. - Nintendo101 (talk) 10:23, February 19, 2025 (EST)

Also, to clarify, I supported that palette proposal. If there is a discrepancy with a reversal on an image, it is because I just overlooked it the difference in shade. Again, sorry. - Nintendo101 (talk) 10:26, February 19, 2025 (EST)

SMB3 Luigi

Fair warning, when I reupload the SMB3 Luigi sprites, I'm probably going to have them face the same way as Mario's for better gallery consistency. I noticed how the SMB3 page's table has them facing the opposite direction as each other, so I figured I'd put the code down here to flip images horizontally in pages on command. <span style="display:inline-block; transform:scaleX(-1)>[[File:]]</span> Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:08, February 20, 2025 (EST)

Go ahead. I did that to passively invoke the title screen, but it's not a big deal. I do appreciate that you reached out to let me know, though. Thank you! - Nintendo101 (talk) 01:31, February 20, 2025 (EST)

Stone-Eye

Hello. I noticed in the Stone-Eye article, that you removed the comparison to Bomps, and, uh, why? Was it intentional, or just a consequence of moving info around, or something? Blinker (talk) 11:00, February 27, 2025 (EST)

It was intentional. I don't think they resemble one another, and it felt too subjective to assert that they did. - Nintendo101 (talk) 11:38, February 27, 2025 (EST)

Perhaps to Bomps specifically (though that underbite is similar), but I think they're similar enough to the Thwomp-zoku in general to mention that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:39, February 27, 2025 (EST)

Blinker prepared this diagram and shared it with me over Discord. It pointed out physical traits shared between Stone-Eyes and Bomps I had not noticed before, and I found it persuasive enough. - Nintendo101 (talk) 22:42, February 27, 2025 (EST)

I'll point out that that bottom one is also present on Thwomps as well, tying all three together. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:42, February 27, 2025 (EST)

Re: Japanese Mario Galaxy guidebook

Sorry, been on a break from the wiki. I'll get to your questions by tomorrow at least. SmokedChili (talk) 13:36, March 6, 2025 (EST)

Thanks, I appreciate it. I hope you've been doing well! - Nintendo101 (talk) 16:57, March 6, 2025 (EST)

1. Getting through the credits is a pain because I suck at kanji. Shogakukan guide has Gaecen Ueno as an editor, it's a pseudonym for an EarthBound composer Toshiyuki Ueno. Complete Guide (Famitsu/Enterbrain) has 松村英彦 (Hideo Matsumura?) as the (main) editor. The Complete Guide (Dengeki Nintendo/MediaWorks) was edited by some company called QBIST, among its staff is 菅野玲 (Rei Sugano?). NinDori guide has 加島光広 (Mitsuhiro Kato?) as a writer.
2. Out of all guides, only Famitsu's has an item and object section where Biribiri Ball has an entry on page 382. Others mention it first on Battlerock Galaxy section; Shogakukan on p.85, NinDori on p.61, and Dengeki on p.129.
3. Famitsu guide mentions ホネ on p.161. There was another mention on another guide but I lost it.
4. Just ask and I'll get to it again sometime.

And here's some extra: None of the guides identify Dekagoro Iwa (Big Ruby Rock). It appears to be an ESMB original. SmokedChili (talk) 15:51, March 7, 2025 (EST)

Update on question 3. I found it again. 骨 on Dengeki guide page 193. SmokedChili (talk) 08:04, March 15, 2025 (EDT)

Colored enemies

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I'd be more cautious about that. Something like "Rolla Koopa" and "Timid Troopa" implies that it has to have some sort of mechanical difference that would need to return in some capacity if that entity were to return that "Pink Koopa" or "Red Troopa" does not. It's really not a 1-1 comparison, and consistently implementing something like that would mean something like Orange Shy Guy would get a page that only covers a few Mario Kart appearances where it has no differences at all. Not to mention Yoshi, Shy Guy, and others are already riddled with ambiguities from Blue/Light-Blue, Light-Blue/White, Orange/Yellow/Brown, and others simply because everyone sees edge cases differently. Implementing this would just mean those edge case inconsistencies would appear in even more places. Not to mention how Pink Shy Guy keeps being replaced with Blue Shy Guy, both in SMB2 and in the Yoshi series, but of course covering them on the same page would also mean covering pink and blue together on sports games where they appear at the same time. Really, I think a gallery page for different colors is enough, because there's just too many cases like that and nowhere near the amount of consistency present to make the pros outweigh the cons - the way I see it, there are very few of the former and an overwhelming multitude of the latter. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:11, March 8, 2025 (EST)

I am still working on the proposal. Folks are more than welcomed to voice their opinions when it is published. Something I would like to stress is the the crux of this proposal is this principal: If an enemy subject is differentiated by color in its published name, it warrants receiving a dedicated article only if it is also accompanied by behavioral or mechanical differences, RPG statistics, or comparable attributes that affect gameplay. If color is the only differentiating attribute of the subject, creating a dedicated article for it is discouraged. If a subject is only differentiated from a parent by color with no accompanying differences at all, it is not necessary for it to receive an article of its own.

I think the praying Koopa is a Red Koopa Troopa. - Nintendo101 (talk) 15:14, March 8, 2025 (EST)

I do think you should demo how some of the articles themselves would look before you make the proposal available for voting, at any rate. Particularly the Troopas and the Shy Guys. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:35, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

I agree! Examples will be provided when this proposal is rolled out. - Nintendo101 (talk) 19:44, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

Classic Mode routes

I think they're supposed to be formatted like this, which I think @Mario did at one point. Super Mario RPG (talk) 12:39, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

Good to know. Thanks! - Nintendo101 (talk) 12:40, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

Missions

I know missions from the mainline Super Mario games are now formatted in quotes, since your proposal passed. That being said, would it be safe to also do for quests from Mario Party Advance (and similar analogs)? They count as the in-game missions of the Shroom City mode. Super Mario RPG (talk) 23:03, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

That's a fair question, but I personally do not know Mario Party Advance well enough to say whether that makes sense, and part of the reason why that proposal passed is because supporters felt like it was narrow in scope. I feel like it is not my place to apply the results of the proposal to things not covered on the mission article. - Nintendo101 (talk) 23:13, March 9, 2025 (EDT)

Glitch on renamed article name

The article Spinning Slots has been renamed "Slot Game BGM / Memory Game BGM" but the new name will become invisible when linked. It doesn't even show up when fake linking it. Can this be fixed?--Platform (talk) 00:06, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

It seems to be working fine on my end. Can you elaborate on what problem you are referring to? - Nintendo101 (talk) 00:09, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

It doesn't show up at all. I can't see Slot Game BGM / Memory Game BGM or Slot Game BGM / Memory Game BGM. The links in the previous sentence don't appear and looks like: I can't see or . on my end.--Platform (talk) 00:26, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

Neither myself nor another staff member are encountering the issue you are: the page loads normally on our end. Are you sure there aren't any issues with your browser? - Nintendo101 (talk) 01:08, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

Butting in from the Discord here; does it appear in Incognito Mode? Have you tried refreshing without the cache (should be Ctrl+F5 on both Chrome and Firefox)? ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☼ contribs ) 01:25, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

I found the problem. "Slot game" gets filtered by my adblock when it's found in a link.--Platform (talk) 01:28, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

Jet pipe image

In that case, would it be better to upload a full screenshot instead of a not-quite-sprite rip? I have plenty in storage from my animating that.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:19, March 13, 2025 (EDT)

I would not replace the image without considering how it is used on the site in its current state. - Nintendo101 (talk) 16:30, March 13, 2025 (EDT)

Where can I discuss without causing problems?

Hi, I wanted to know where I can discuss certain topics without causing problems. You know, I haven't been able to find a place where I can do it without seeming like an ultra-insistent fanatic.Sorbetti (talk) 20:36, March 19, 2025 (EDT)

Do you feel like you have been causing problems? - Nintendo101 (talk) 20:37, March 19, 2025 (EDT)

The truth is, I really don't, but I know that my ideas generally generate confusion and are not very well understood. I think that I generate problems when trying to express my ideas in proposals, but I really don't know much about this and I have been learning little by little. The truth is that I have a secret that I think you probably already realized what it is, and it is the one that has been causing me difficulty when communicating here, so I would prefer to find a discussion page to at least try to express myself better.Sorbetti (talk) 20:43, March 19, 2025 (EDT)

I think you have been raising multiple proposals in a short period of time, and they are not all well researched and not always well written. It is not always clear why you are arguing for the changes you want.

Typically, people on the Super Mario Wiki only work on one proposal at a time. I would not describe any of this as a "problem," but it catches other people's eyes. Further, the people who edit this wiki tend to have a lot of strong opinions about how enemies are covered, so it is not surprising that your proposals in particular have drawn attention. If you want a more organic back-and-forth between members of the Super Mario Wiki community, I recommend joining the official Discord server. - Nintendo101 (talk) 20:50, March 19, 2025 (EDT)

Great work

You're a real hard worker dedicated to improving the Mario Wiki! Keep it up trooper!

Your crossover proposal has bridged an editorial divide between the community and its handling of non-Super Mario content, and you've done amazing research on your Zelda page. You did what I couldn't do. Super Mario RPG (talk) 13:58, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

Thank you for the kind words, though I don't think I did anything that you or anyone else couldn't do. Keep up the good work yourself. - Nintendo101 (talk) 20:57, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

Super Mario Land

I use dark mode, and the correctly ripped versions look fine to me. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:09, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

I am in dark mode as we speak, and I find these sprites very difficult to see, and to display the background cells as white or anything comparable would be antithetical to the purpose behind dark mode and the users sensitive to bright and harsh colors. Do you have an alternative solution? Because until one is developed, I'd rather people be able to see make out the subjects the sprites are meant to represent. - Nintendo101 (talk) 14:12, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

I put my alternate solution into effect now. As I want to point out, background details like those pyramids and moais go right through them and there are many edge cases (especially with sprites that tiny and undetailed), so it's not really our place to decide what is "supposed" to be either white or transparent IMO any more than transparent black outlines. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:17, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

I guess that's fine, though it looks poor to have the white squares behind the assets and it obfuscates their edges.

I think to assert it is unreasonably subjective to display the eyes of a Bombshell Koopa or Suu as white is an unreasonable level of purity does not hold water, especially when the majority of the background is white in every level. Those pixels are white in almost every circumstance - if they wanted them to be a different shade, they would have filled them with the colors used elsewhere on their bodies. - Nintendo101 (talk) 14:25, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Super Mario Land has a weird sort of graphical infidelity due to being the first one that I feel it is in our best interest to capture. The same argument can be made against removing outlines in the old arcade games; those are obviously "supposed" to be perceived as solid black, but they aren't "actually" solid black if you get my meaning, and the past several years removing those has been generally approved of. Either way, dark mode is a work-in-progress that has gone through several revisions already, so it will probably be a non-issue in short order anyway. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:28, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

OK, I have done what I was actually attempting to do. That specific column ought to be white even in dark mode, or at the very least really really light gray. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:38, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Account

Will my account work on any of the other NIWA wikis, or do I need a different account for each one? ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 22:10, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

Howdy! You will have to establish a new account for each site. NIWA is composed of affiliated but independent wikis. - Nintendo101 (talk) 22:12, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

Thanks. I don't know why I thought my user name would work on the other NIWA wikis. ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 22:13, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

No worries! It is understandable. - Nintendo101 (talk) 22:26, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

I have no clue how to log into the WiKirby. I don't understand how it works. ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 23:12, April 4, 2025 (EDT)

Hmm, maybe I can help you. Did you actually set up an account yet? - Nintendo101 (talk) 10:49, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

I don't know why I thought the account I have on this wiki would work. And why does it say "request account" instead? ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 11:14, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Anyway, I learn best visually. ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 11:34, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Hello! I'm not Nintendo101 but I have experience with getting registered on WiKirby. I can help you out!

First: click/tap here to get to the "Request Account" page. Be sure to read the Terms of Service first (it's linked on the page). Make sure you have an email, otherwise you cannot get registered.

You will see two boxes: Username, and Email address.

• Username: This is where you request your username for the wiki. If you become registered, you will have this username.
• Email address: Input your current email address here. This is to ensure that a staff member will email you to create your account and to send you your password. The password is randomly selected, and you must use it to log into your account.

I hope this helps you! Sparks (talk) 11:46, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Then there's the CAPTCHA box. I'll fill it out, and then I'll let you know what happens. ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 11:56, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

"Another pending account request uses the same email address." What could this mean? -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 11:57, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Have you tried setting up an email beforehand? - Nintendo101 (talk) 11:59, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

I have a Yahoo email account. -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 12:01, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Sorry, I misspoke. Have you tried setting up an account with WiKirby using this email account beforehand? - Nintendo101 (talk) 12:01, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Should I tell you my Yahoo email address? -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 12:10, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

No. Do not share personal information on the wiki. - Nintendo101 (talk) 12:12, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

"Username is already in use in a pending account request." What could this mean? ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 12:13, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Have you already sent in a request? During this process, the wiki staff will send you a confirmation email. It may take some time though, so be patient. Sparks (talk) 12:23, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

I reached out to WiKirby staff, and they told me the following:

There is an account by that name in the requested account list (we use the ConfirmAccount extension) from a few days ago, but the email isn't confirmed (we generally don't confirm accounts with unconfirmed emails, ConfirmAccount works by sending a temporary password to the user's email)

ZanyDragon, this means you should have received an email from WiKirby a couple days ago asking you to confirm your email account. Have you checked to see if you received one from them? Maybe in your spam folder? - Nintendo101 (talk) 12:55, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

I did find a message about the new account I made from Pikipedia. -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 12:18, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

No word from WiKirby, though. -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 21:48, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

I still haven't gotten any notifications from the administration on WiKirby. I checked everywhere in my Yahoo email, but found nothing. -- ZanyDragon (talk · edits) 11:29, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

Author and publisher

Hello! I noticed that, when you're citing a book whose authors you're unsure or unaware of, you complete the "author=" field with the publisher's name. This practice was at one point widespread here, but I asked Porplemontage to run a bot that automatically removed instances of "author=Nintendo". At the time, the reason for this request was simply because I found the specification redundant, as the publisher "Nintendo" is bound to be noted in its corresponding "publisher" field. I am aware that a book's publisher is not the same as the book's author or editor, however, in those particular cases, assuming the books were written in-house at Nintendo (of Europe, of America etc.) seems like speculation to me. For instance, in the booklet you cited for Cobrat's French and German name, I cannot see information on the party who authored the book; the only thing somewhat relevant to that is found on the back cover, which states in fine print that it was "printed in Japan". Is it common practice in academia to reuse the publisher's name as the author of a book if you don't know who the actual author is? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:50, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

Oh, the attributes for that citation are erroneous. I know that now. I added that a while ago uncritically and made some assumptions about its details. You actually caught me at a time where I am attempting to correct and track down citations for all the non-English names for the Super Mario Bros. 2 enemies after having done the same for the Super Mario Bros. enemies. The impression I have is that in the 80s and early 90s, Nintendo did not have the same international structure it does today and would have their instruction booklets distributed by various partners throughout Europe and Latin America (for example, booklets and games were distributed in Italy by Mattel during the NES era; and in the example booklet you mention, the distributor was Bandai). I seemed like during this period some original names were developed that are no longer in use, or at least that is the case for the first Super Mario Bros. How this occurred is not apparent to me. However, I know this is is a officially licensed and produced Nintendo booklet, and it seemed speculative to suggest anyone other than Nintendo was involved in its authorship, especially if it was printed by in Japan. In academic research, I was always taught to attribute the publisher as author if the actual author, editors, or translators are not known. In this case, I think attributing it to "Nintendo" is the most accurate thing to do in lieu of anything else. The distributor and the publisher are not necessarily the same entity, so I would not attribute the publisher to Bandai or Mattel, for example.

But again, I was mistaken by some of the details for the source you mentioned when I first added it to that page and made some false assumptions. The booklet isn't even German and French, for one. It is actually Dutch and French.

In addition to NES booklets like the Dutch and French one you mentioned, I have found Spanish, Italian, Finnish, Swedish, and Portuguese booklets with the same types of details. The Italian ones, such as this one were actually uploaded by our peers at Mario's Castle. - Nintendo101 (talk) 18:15, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

That clears it up, thank you. While I'm in no position to argue the notions you were taught in your own pursuits, I still do believe that it's more useful for the purposes of this wiki to omit the "author" parameter altogether to avoid redundance if you don't know who the author is. I asked you because I ultimately defer to you on this subject, and since you've already begun removing the "surplus" authors in your own sandbox, I'll do the same as I come across more instances. If the authorship is directly attributed to Nintendo as a whole, I can probably concede putting it under both "author" and "publisher". -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:33, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

Sorry, I forgot to clarify - I will stop adding "author=publisherwhenauthorisnotknown" to citations. It is something I was doing out of habit. I respect that this is a communal space. - Nintendo101 (talk) 18:53, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

Co-authorships

I just had a question regarding your co-autorship proposal. I know the change has already been applied to the {{proposal archive}}, but what about the automated {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} template for {{User}}? How is that working? Is there some kind of "{{subst:REVISIONUSER2}}" template? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 15:22, April 17, 2025 (EDT)

I'm sorry. I am not familiar with what you mean. If you are asking for what code you use for archiving proposals with multiple authors, you would use something like {{Proposal archive|1|Ultra Drop|Made up proposal name|PopitTart|January 24|user2=Nintendo101}}. Is that what you are looking for? - Nintendo101 (talk) 16:31, April 17, 2025 (EDT)

I mean the {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} code that automatically fills in your name when you make a proposal. I'm wondering how that would work if there's 2 people proposing. Would you just have to add the other without the {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} code? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 19:20, April 17, 2025 (EDT)

I'm not familiar with this code at all, nor have I seen it used anywhere on Super Mario Wiki. I have only seen folks type out their own user names. Sorry! - Nintendo101 (talk) 21:53, April 17, 2025 (EDT)