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{{TPP archive|46|Talk:Dragonfly (enemy)#Merge all Gnat Attack enemies into Gnat Attack|Merge all Gnat Attack enemies into Gnat Attack|KS3|March 13, 2010|yellow}}
{{TPP archive|46|Talk:Dragonfly (enemy)#Merge all Gnat Attack enemies into Gnat Attack|Merge all Gnat Attack enemies into Gnat Attack|KS3|March 13, 2010|yellow}}
{{TPP archive|55|Talk:Pale Piranha#Merge into Piranha Plant|Merge Pale Piranha to Piranha Plant|Cobold|April 3, 2010|green}}
{{TPP archive|81|Talk:Goomba#Split Pumpkinhead Goomba.2FJack O.27 Goomba from the Goomba Page|Split Jack O'Goomba from Goomba|Arend|July 24, 2010|green}}
{{TPP archive|81|Talk:Goomba#Split Pumpkinhead Goomba.2FJack O.27 Goomba from the Goomba Page|Split Jack O'Goomba from Goomba|Arend|July 24, 2010|green}}
{{TPP archive|93|Talk:Monty Mole#Split Undergrunt from Monty Mole|Split Undergrunt from Monty Mole|Superboo922|August 3, 2010|green}}
{{TPP archive|96|Talk:Krow#Split Kreepy Krow from Krow|Split Kreepy Krow from Krow|BluePikminKong497|August 4, 2010|green}}
{{TPP archive|122|Talk:Piranha Plant#Split Pale Pirahna and merge the Paper Mario TTYD Piranha Plant|Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant and merge Piranha Plant (''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'') to Piranha Plant|Tails777|September 24, 2010|red}}
{{TPP archive|131|Talk:Piranha Plant#Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant|Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant|Bop1996|November 23, 2010|yellow}}
{{TPP archive|34|Talk:Climbing Koopa#Delete|Delete Climbing Koopa|Bowser's luma|April 4, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|34|Talk:Climbing Koopa#Delete|Delete Climbing Koopa|Bowser's luma|April 4, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|36|Talk:Hammer Bro (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)#Merge with Hammer Bros.|Merge Hammer Bro (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'') to Hammer Bro|Kaptain K. Rool|April 5, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|36|Talk:Hammer Bro (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time)#Merge with Hammer Bros.|Merge Hammer Bro (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'') to Hammer Bro|Kaptain K. Rool|April 5, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|40|Talk:Klobber#Split Yellow Klobber and Red Klobber From Klobber|Split Yellow Klobber and Red Klobber from Klobber|DKPetey99|April 9, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|46|Talk:Krockhead#Split into Red Krochead and Green Krochead|Split Krochead into Red Krochead and Green Krochead|DKPetey99|April 15, 2011|red}}
{{TPP archive|53|Talk:Gnat Attack#Split Enemies from Gnat Attack|Create individual articles for enemies in Gnat Attack|Marioguy1|April 24, 2011|green}}
{{TPP archive|53|Talk:Gnat Attack#Split Enemies from Gnat Attack|Create individual articles for enemies in Gnat Attack|Marioguy1|April 24, 2011|green}}
{{TPP archive|42|Talk:Monty Mole#Split the Monty Mole variant in Flower Fields in Paper Mario from Monty Mole|Split the green Monty Moles from Monty Mole|GreenDisaster|August 1, 2012|green}}
{{TPP archive|39|Talk:Pokey#Split Green Pokey enemy from the Yellow one|Split Green Pokey from Pokey|LudwigVon|April 5, 2015|green}}
{{TPP archive|42|Talk:Koopa Troopa#Split Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa|Split Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa from Koopa Troopa|Andymii|April 8, 2015|red}}
{{TPP archive|47|Talk:Forest Fuzzy#Merge with Green Fuzzy|Merge Forest Fuzzy to Green Fuzzy|Binarystep|April 13, 2015|green}}
{{TPP archive|63|Talk:Lava Bubble (blue)#Move Blue Lava Bubble to Ember|Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Ember|LudwigVon|April 30, 2015|red}}
{{TPP archive|82|Talk:Lava Bubble (blue)#Merge Blue Lava Bubble with Lava Bubble|Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Lava Bubble|LudwigVon|June 12, 2015|pink}}
{{TPP archive|63|Talk:Lava Bubble (blue)#Move Blue Lava Bubble to Ember|Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Ember|LudwigVon|April 30, 2015|red}}
{{TPP archive|98|Talk:Blurp (Yoshi's Story)#Merge Red Blurp with Boss Bass or split Red Blurp and Blue Blurp|Split Red Blurp and Blue Blurp from Blurp|LinkTheLefty|July 31, 2015|yellow}}
{{TPP archive|111|Talk:Black Shy Guy#Merge with Shy Guy.2C split Shy Guy according to color.2C or delete this page|Merge Black and White Shy Guys with Shy Guy, split Shy Guy according to color, or delete Black Shy Guy and White Shy Guy|YoshiFlutterJump|November 20, 2017|red}}
{{TPP archive|111|Talk:Black Shy Guy#Merge with Shy Guy.2C split Shy Guy according to color.2C or delete this page|Merge Black and White Shy Guys with Shy Guy, split Shy Guy according to color, or delete Black Shy Guy and White Shy Guy|YoshiFlutterJump|November 20, 2017|red}}
{{TPP archive|78|Talk:Red Paragoomba#Merge to Paragoomba|Merge Red Paragoomba with Paragoomba|Doc von Schmeltwick|September 14, 2018|green}}
{{TPP archive|81|Talk:Purple Klaptrap#Merge with Klaptrap|Merge Purple Klaptrap with Klaptrap|Doc von Schmeltwick|September 22, 2018|blue}}
{{TPP archive|6|Talk:Blurp (Yoshi's Story)#Re-merge Red Blurp and Blue Blurp back into this page|Re-merge Red Blurp and Blue Blurp|Doc von Schmeltwick|January 18, 2019|green}}
{{TPP archive|48|Talk:Spike Top#Merge Red Spike Top with this article|Merge Red Spike Top with Spike Top|7feetunder|April 9, 2019|blue}}
{{TPP archive|51|Talk:Shell#Create a generic Koopa Shell article, reorganize the colored shell articles|Create a generic Koopa Shell article and reorganize the colored shell articles|Ray Trace|August 29, 2021|green}}
{{TPP archive|37|Talk:Green Boo#Merge with Boo|Merge Green Boo with Boo|Somethingone|August 1, 2021|green}}
{{TPP archive|71|Talk:Red Boo#Merge to Boo|Clean up Red Boo|Doc von Schmeltwick|September 19, 2021|green}}
{{TPP archive|5|Talk:Spike Top#Merge Red Spike Top with Spike Top, Take Three|Merge Red Spike Top with Spike Top|Somethingone|January 29, 2022|green}}
{{TPP archive|72|Talk:Electro-Koopa#Re-merge red and blue back here|Merge Blue Electrokoopa and Red Electrokoopa back into Electro-Koopa|Doc von Schmeltwick|September 4, 2022|red}}
{{TPP archive|73|Talk:POW Block#Seperating Red POW Block from this page|Split Red POW Block from POW Block|Rodmjorgeh|September 24, 2023|green}}

Revision as of 13:54, February 11, 2025

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If the games and their accompanying paratexts (i.e., in-game bestiaries, instruction booklets, officially-licensed guidebooks, encyclopedias, Mario Portal, and other such sources) recognize similar subjects as different types of enemies, even if perceivably or explicitly members of the same species, they warrant having dedicated articles. If a discrepancy exists between sources from different regions, deference should be directed towards ones from the region where the game was developed.

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Caveat I - enemies of different colors: If an enemy subject is differentiated by color in its published name, it warrants receiving a dedicated article only if it is also accompanied by behavioral or mechanical differences, RPG statistics, or comparable attributes that affect gameplay. If color is the only differentiating attribute of the subject, creating a dedicated article for it is discouraged. It would have to appear in a release where it has an accompanying gameplay difference first. (e.g., all Biddybuds behave the same regardless of color and should not receive their own articles. The same is true for the green Cataquacks on Peach Beach and the blue Koopa Paratroopa from Cloudtop Cruise.) For colored enemies that do warrant article coverage, appearances of the subject in subsequent games and other genres should be covered in their article as well, as one would for other characters and enemy species. (e.g., the Pink Shy Guy from Mario Kart Tour would ontologically be considered the same subject from Super Mario Bros. 2.) For appearances within the same or similar genres of game, the exact type of behavioral difference between the subject and related enemies of different colors does not have to be the exact same one between different games for it to be considered the same subject. (e.g. the Red Cheep Cheep in Super Mario Bros. is the slow-moving variant, whereas the Red Cheep Cheep in Super Mario Maker swims quickly and homes-in on Mario. They are still ontologically considered the Red Cheep Cheep and should share an article.)

Clarification: This does not mean broader articles for recurring subjects, like those for Koopa Troopa or Shy Guy, would disappear. As exemplified by the Koopa Shell article (which coexists with Green Shell, Red Shell, Blue Shell, and Gold Shell articles) and the POW Block article (which coexists with Red POW Block despite normal POW Blocks occasionally being red in older games), rich and thorough articles can be written without being in conflict with colored variants. This also does not mean colored variants with mechanical differences that are not recognized as distinct in games or accompanying media cannot receive their own articles if the arguments for them are strong or self evident, as is the case for Gold Mini Goomba. This also does not mean subjects for less recurring colored variants cannot be lumped with each other in one article in the future if it determined that the information is kept presented together.

affected enemies

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Caveat II - enemies of different behaviors: If a subject is differentiated by its behavior in its published name, they also warrant receiving their own article, but only times when the subject goes by the same (or a similar) name as the subject does in its attributed debut. This is because some recurring enemies inherited the behaviors of their variants in future appearances, but Nintendo still recognizes the original variant as distinct when they discuss the original releases. If a subject with a distinct behavior is not differentiated from its parent in name, they are assumed to be the same subject and dedicated article coverage is discouraged.

affected enemies

Relevant proposals

Main

#87 • Merge all Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story enemy stubs into one page, Hyper Guy (ended September 27, 2009)
#127 • Split enemies with different color variants, Reversinator (ended December 23, 2009)
#12 • Split the articles for similar Donkey Kong Country Returns enemies, Reversinator (ended March 7, 2011)
#110 • Merge Dream Team enemies' articles with their "R" version, Iggy Koopa Jr (ended December 16, 2013)
#16 • Merge post-Special Zone enemies, LinkTheLefty (ended April 24, 2015)
#38 • Create page for the "Paper" variant of enemies in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and merge the "Shiny" variants into them, Alex95 (ended September 21, 2017)
#13 • Split the enemy variants from Wario World, Bye Guy (ended July 11, 2020)
#108 • Split articles for certain official single-game enemy behavior splits, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 3, 2024)
#141 • Create articles for Glohm enemies or merge them with their normal counterparts, Sparks (ended November 28, 2024)

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#46 • Merge all Gnat Attack enemies into Gnat Attack, KS3 (ended March 13, 2010)
#55 • Merge Pale Piranha to Piranha Plant, Cobold (ended April 3, 2010)
#81 • Split Jack O'Goomba from Goomba, Arend (ended July 24, 2010)
#93 • Split Undergrunt from Monty Mole, Superboo922 (ended August 3, 2010)
#96 • Split Kreepy Krow from Krow, BluePikminKong497 (ended August 4, 2010)
#122 • Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant and merge Piranha Plant (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door) to Piranha Plant, Tails777 (ended September 24, 2010)
#131 • Split Pale Piranha from Piranha Plant, Bop1996 (ended November 23, 2010)
#34 • Delete Climbing Koopa, Bowser's luma (ended April 4, 2011)
#36 • Merge Hammer Bro (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time) to Hammer Bro, Kaptain K. Rool (ended April 5, 2011)
#40 • Split Yellow Klobber and Red Klobber from Klobber, DKPetey99 (ended April 9, 2011)
#46 • Split Krochead into Red Krochead and Green Krochead, DKPetey99 (ended April 15, 2011)
#53 • Create individual articles for enemies in Gnat Attack, Marioguy1 (ended April 24, 2011)
#42 • Split the green Monty Moles from Monty Mole, GreenDisaster (ended August 1, 2012)
#39 • Split Green Pokey from Pokey, LudwigVon (ended April 5, 2015)
#42 • Split Red Koopa Troopa and Green Koopa Troopa from Koopa Troopa, Andymii (ended April 8, 2015)
#47 • Merge Forest Fuzzy to Green Fuzzy, Binarystep (ended April 13, 2015)
#63 • Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Ember, LudwigVon (ended April 30, 2015)
#82 • Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Lava Bubble, LudwigVon (ended June 12, 2015)
#63 • Merge Blue Lava Bubble to Ember, LudwigVon (ended April 30, 2015)
#98 • Split Red Blurp and Blue Blurp from Blurp, LinkTheLefty (ended July 31, 2015)
#111 • Merge Black and White Shy Guys with Shy Guy, split Shy Guy according to color, or delete Black Shy Guy and White Shy Guy, YoshiFlutterJump (ended November 20, 2017)
#78 • Merge Red Paragoomba with Paragoomba, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 14, 2018)
#81 • Merge Purple Klaptrap with Klaptrap, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 22, 2018)
#6 • Re-merge Red Blurp and Blue Blurp, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 18, 2019)
#48 • Merge Red Spike Top with Spike Top, 7feetunder (ended April 9, 2019)
#51 • Create a generic Koopa Shell article and reorganize the colored shell articles, Ray Trace (ended August 29, 2021)
#37 • Merge Green Boo with Boo, Somethingone (ended August 1, 2021)
#71 • Clean up Red Boo, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 19, 2021)
#5 • Merge Red Spike Top with Spike Top, Somethingone (ended January 29, 2022)
#72 • Merge Blue Electrokoopa and Red Electrokoopa back into Electro-Koopa, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 4, 2022)
#73 • Split Red POW Block from POW Block, Rodmjorgeh (ended September 24, 2023)