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The "Cursed Mushroom" in the early ''Mario Party'' games appears to be a different, but similar item, akin to Rotten Mushroom above. While it was initially translated as "Poison Mushroom," later translations were more faithful. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:09, April 17, 2024 (EDT) | The "Cursed Mushroom" in the early ''Mario Party'' games appears to be a different, but similar item, akin to Rotten Mushroom above. While it was initially translated as "Poison Mushroom," later translations were more faithful. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:09, April 17, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:I have also thought the same thing regarding this, and I think I would largely be in support of splitting these pages. One thing I think is important to note regarding this issue is that Poison Mushrooms themselves had much less of an established design at the time of the early ''Mario Party'' games, making it highly possible that the design similarity is something of a coincidence, though it appears that ''[[Mario Party]] 1'' refers to its similarly-designed Poison Mushroom (not a usable item, but a consequence of landing on a [[Mushroom Space]]) as a Poison Mushroom in all regions. On the other hand, the concept of a "cursed" mushroom and its effect is probably derived from Shy Guy's Curse House, which appears on [[Mystery Land]] in ''[[Mario Party 2]]'', which has the same effect as the later Cursed Mushrooms but is thematically unrelated to mushrooms in any way. Sorry, I rambled a bit there but all this is to say that I do think I'd be in support of such a merger, one way or another. {{User:Pseudo/sig}} 23:52, May 28, 2024 (EDT) | :I have also thought the same thing regarding this, and I think I would largely be in support of splitting these pages. One thing I think is important to note regarding this issue is that Poison Mushrooms themselves had much less of an established design at the time of the early ''Mario Party'' games, making it highly possible that the design similarity is something of a coincidence, though it appears that ''[[Mario Party]] 1'' refers to its similarly-designed Poison Mushroom (not a usable item, but a consequence of landing on a [[Mushroom Space]]) as a Poison Mushroom in all regions. On the other hand, the concept of a "cursed" mushroom and its effect is probably derived from Shy Guy's Curse House, which appears on [[Mystery Land]] in ''[[Mario Party 2]]'', which has the same effect as the later Cursed Mushrooms but is thematically unrelated to mushrooms in any way. Sorry, I rambled a bit there but all this is to say that I do think I'd be in support of such a merger, one way or another. {{User:Pseudo/sig}} 23:52, May 28, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::I'd support a split. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:40, May 29, 2024 (EDT) |
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werent there poison shrooms in mansion?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sadaharu (talk).
- There are purple Mushrooms that shrink Luigi if he touches them. They act like Poision Mushrooms from Super Mario Kart (but I don't think they are named in Luigi's Mansion). --Son of Suns 15:38, 30 June 2006 (EDT)
It's FANART!
That poison Mushroom on the top is FANART! could someone please replace it? I can't.
Top: SMB:LL Middle: SMK Bottom: PM Knife (talk) 18:56, 27 February 2007 (EST)
SMK??? Max2
Oh, Super Mario Kart. I get it. Max2
Err no Knife actually he was talking about the one I deleted arleady. Paper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)
??? What one??? Max2 Ok then, what's SMK???
My image below the main one is Lost Levels, Mario Kart, Paper Mario 2. Sorry for any confusion.
- Yoshi Master
Why does it say the poison mushroom is similar to the mini mushroom? It's not, a mini mushroom is a beneficial item (even though it makes Mario vulnerable and weaker) while poison mushrooms are always bad. And do poison mushrooms make mario small in most games, or just a few? They usually just make him take damage. I think that trivia item is misleading. CrystalYoshi
I'm talking about the poison mushrooms that make you shrink.
It says that in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Mario ingested a Poison Mushroom. He actually ingested a Invincishroom which was considered deadly to outsiders. This should be rewritten.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reversinator (talk).
Yes, that's true. I'll delete it. Hey, and don't forget to sign your comments. Supershroom + 20 HP! Yeah!
Done, but I've given it a small note. To Mario, it was a fact a poisonous Mushrom Supershroom + 20 HP! Yeah!
Merge Rotten Mushroom into this page
Template:SettledTPP Template:ProposalOutcome I had been voting for the awards, and one of the choices for the worst obstacle is "Poison Mushroom/Rotten Mushroom". Likewise, the Rotten Mushroom is given an internal filename that's the same name as the Poison Mushroom: "PoisonKinoko". Perhaps there's a potential to merge the Rotten Mushroom page into the Poison Mushroom page.
Proposer: GuntherBB (talk)
Deadline: June 26, 2023, 23:59 GMT
Support
Oppose
- Spectrogram (talk) These are two very different "power-ups" that function differently, have a different appearance, and a different in-game name.
- Swallow (talk) Per Spectogram, we don't merge distinct subjects just because they're similar, only if there is evidence that they're supposed to be the same.
- FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - 'Based on in development'=/='the same in finished product.' These are no more similar to each other than either of them are to Zombie Shrooms.
- Waluigi Time (talk) Per all, time will likely tell if these are meant to be the same thing or not but for now there's not much in its favor. Also, the decisions for Awards are made with different standards and factors in mind than those used for wiki coverage and should never be used as an argument in a proposal.
- Arend (talk) Per all + see comments
- Hewer (talk) Though these two mushrooms are obviously related, there is nothing to suggest that they are the same thing. Per all.
- MegaBowser64 (talk) PEr ALl
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
- Killer Moth (talk) Per all.
- PrincessPeachFan (talk) Not related.
- ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per all.
- Wikiboy10 (talk) Obviously, this proposal is going to fail, but the Japanese name in-game is not the same. Heck, their functions are different too; Rotten follows you while Poison moves more like a traditional enemy.
Comments
First of all, if the two had to be merged, I feel like we should merge Rotten Mushroom to Poison Mushroom instead of the other way around: the Poison Mushroom appears way more often than the Rotten Mushroom.
Even then, items looking and acting similar while sharing an internal filename is not exactly enough to deem the two as one and the same, I feel. We still have Coin Coffer and Magmaargh separate from Moneybags and Blargg, respectively, for instance. rend (talk) (edits) 03:39, June 13, 2023 (EDT)
- Yeah, we already had this with the Mega/Morty Mole situation. They are not related outside of the internal file names so they do not need to be merged. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 11:06, June 15, 2023 (EDT)
Split Cursed Mushroom?
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The "Cursed Mushroom" in the early Mario Party games appears to be a different, but similar item, akin to Rotten Mushroom above. While it was initially translated as "Poison Mushroom," later translations were more faithful. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:09, April 17, 2024 (EDT)
- I have also thought the same thing regarding this, and I think I would largely be in support of splitting these pages. One thing I think is important to note regarding this issue is that Poison Mushrooms themselves had much less of an established design at the time of the early Mario Party games, making it highly possible that the design similarity is something of a coincidence, though it appears that Mario Party 1 refers to its similarly-designed Poison Mushroom (not a usable item, but a consequence of landing on a Mushroom Space) as a Poison Mushroom in all regions. On the other hand, the concept of a "cursed" mushroom and its effect is probably derived from Shy Guy's Curse House, which appears on Mystery Land in Mario Party 2, which has the same effect as the later Cursed Mushrooms but is thematically unrelated to mushrooms in any way. Sorry, I rambled a bit there but all this is to say that I do think I'd be in support of such a merger, one way or another. Pseudo (talk) (contributions) 23:52, May 28, 2024 (EDT)