MarioWiki:Proposals

Current time: Wednesday, February 12nd, 17:38 GMT

Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken. Voting periods last for two weeks, but can close early or be extended (see below). Any autoconfirmed user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so. All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options. For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.

How to

If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.

Rules

1. Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Proposals can be created by one user or co-authored by two users.
2. Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
3. Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
4. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
5. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is acceptable (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
6. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
   • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
7. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
8. Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
9. If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
   • Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
10. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
11. If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
12. If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
    • Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
13. Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
14. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
15. After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
16. If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
17. Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
18. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
19. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
20. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
21. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal formatting

Copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the proposal deadline will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT

====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.

====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====

====Comments ([brief proposal title])====

Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To vote for an option, just insert #{{User|[your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal."

Talk page proposals

Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's heading, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{ongoing TPP}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

• Split Animal Crossing (game) (discuss) Deadline: February 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Poochy Dash into Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World and Poochy Hut (discuss) Deadline: February 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Split Toad wearing headphones off from Jammin' Toad (discuss) Deadline: February 14, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Remove information of Golf* for the Virtual Boy from Mario Golf (series) (discuss) Deadline: February 15, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Move Kutlass to Kutlass (enemy) (discuss) Deadline: February 17, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Resplit Birdo (species) (discuss) Deadline: February 18, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Jar (Mario Kart series) to Jar (discuss) Deadline: February 19, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Royal bus driver with Royal bus (discuss) Deadline: February 19, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Tighten Category:Power-ups and its subcategories (discuss) Deadline: February 20, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Merge MC Ballyhoo and Big Top (discuss) Deadline: February 20, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Split the 1337 HAMM3R BROZ. (discuss) Deadline: February 21, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Split the modes in the Battle page (discuss) Deadline: February 22, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Split Snifit or Whiffit: Seabed Edition from Snifit or Whiffit (discuss) Deadline: February 23, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Figure out what to do with Category:Parasites (discuss) Deadline: February 24, 2025, 23:59 GMT
• Split the Monstro Town Mushroom from the normal Mushroom (discuss) Deadline: February 26, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)

Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024)

^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles and Super Mario Run.

Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024)

Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024)

Use the classic and classic link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024)

Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024)

Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024)

Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024)

Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024)

^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.

Split off the Mario Kart Tour template(s), MightyMario (ended November 24, 2024)

Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024)

Organize "List of implied" articles, EvieMaybe (ended January 12, 2025)

Split Mario & Luigi badges and remaining accessories, Camwoodstock (ended February 1, 2025)

Merge Chef Torte and Apprentice (Torte), Camwoodstock (ended February 3, 2025)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)

Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)

Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)

Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024)

Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024)

Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024)

Merge False Character and Fighting Polygon/Wireframe/Alloy/Mii Teams into List of Super Smash Bros. series bosses, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended December 2, 2024)

Merge Wiggler Family to Dimble Wood, Camwoodstock (ended January 11, 2025)

Split the Ink Bomb, Camwoodstock (ended January 12, 2025)

Create a catch-all Poltergust article, Blinker (ended January 21, 2025)

Merge the two Clawing for More articles, Salmancer (ended January 27, 2025)

Merge Dangan Mario to Invincible Mario, PrincessPeachFan (ended January 30, 2025)

Give the Cluck-A-Pop Prizes articles, Camwoodstock (ended January 31, 2025)

Reverse the proposal to trim White Shy Guy, Waluigi Time (ended February 8, 2025)

Unimplemented proposals

#	Proposal	User	Date
1	Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series	BBQ Turtle (talk)	July 17, 2018
2	Split Jump Block (Mario & Wario) from Note Block	Alternis (talk)	July 21, 2019
3	Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries	Results May Vary (talk)	July 30, 2019
4	Split all multi-items in the Mario Kart series	Archivist Toadette (talk)	October 12, 2019
5	Include information on Construction Zone for the rest of the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series	Koopa con Carne (talk)	November 24, 2019
6	Split backwards somersault info and merge it to Backflip	Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)	February 26, 2020
7	Create a "character/species" infobox	Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)	April 16, 2020
8	Split the attacks from Paper Mario: Sticker Star and Paper Mario: Color Splash	Scrooge200 (talk)	July 4, 2020
9	Split the enemy variants from Wario World	Koopa con Carne (talk)	July 11, 2020
10	Split the item lists from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars	Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)	July 12, 2020
11	Clean up Category:Undead and Category:Deceased	Pokemon (talk)	August 6, 2020
12	Reorganize images in levelboxes pertaining to games with remakes, remasters, etc.	DarkNight (talk)	September 30, 2020
13	Create articles for minor locations in Super Mario Sunshine	The Mansion (talk)	October 30, 2020
14	Create an article for Cheese the Chao	BBQ Turtle (talk)	November 25, 2020
15	Create an article for Froggy	BBQ Turtle (talk)	November 25, 2020
16	Split the tour appearances of Mario Kart Tour courses	Koopa con Carne (talk)	March 5, 2021
17	Use indicators for pre-release images	Scrooge200 (talk)	March 27, 2021

Writing guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

Remove removals

Removing stuff is bad. As a wiki we should be adding MORE stuff so I propose that we remove removals, therefore from now on we can only make proposals to add more things but no proposals to get rid of things.

Proposer: Waluigi Time (talk)
Deadline: April 8, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Waluigi Time (talk) MORE STUFF
2. Wynn Liaw (talk) That proposal to remove Smash coverage will be the last of its kind.
3. Keyblade Master (talk) All worlds begin in darkness, and all so end. M****Wiki is no different.
4. TheDarkStar (talk) - more
5. RHG1951 (talk) Matter can only be shifted into a different state, thus the concept of removal is false.
6. Hewer (talk) The Super Wiki is perfect and therefore nothing should ever be removed from it

Oppose

1. Glowsquid (talk) - Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Comments

Is this an April Fools proposal or an actual one? Nightwicked Bowser 12:03, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

What do you think? Wynn Liaw 12:04, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Well excuse me, someone had to make that kind of comment right? Nightwicked Bowser 12:06, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

It's real, getting rid of stuff is bad -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:10, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Delete the wiki. Then we'd no longer have anything to remove. 12:09, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

NO that's the opposite of what I'm trying to do, read the proposal again please -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:10, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Changes

Move animal names from the Donkey Kong Country series to just their normal names

Resuming the proposal that left off here per responses in the comments. As I stated there, these animals are often referred to by just their names e.g. "Rambi", including in the credits of the first Donkey Kong Country, and in instruction manuals.

Proposer: Keyblade Master (talk)
Deadline: April 5, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Keyblade Master (talk) Per proposal.
2. Scrooge200 (talk) More common and concise.
3. The Mansion (talk) Sounds good to me.
4. Power Flotzo (talk) Per all.
5. Results May Vary (talk) Per all.
6. Archivist Toadette (talk) Per all.
7. Niiue (talk) Per all.
8. RickTommy (talk) Per all; also, I've started a similar discussion here.

Oppose

1. Hewer (talk) Per Alex95's comment on the original proposal. Princess Peach is usually just Peach, but we use the full name anyway, and it's the same with other characters that have full names like the Sonic characters (unless it's more obscure like Yoshi's 'full name'). Readers searching for the shorter title isn't a problem because of redirects. That's my understanding at least.

Comments

@Results May Vary: You need to state your reason for supporting this proposal. ^(T|C) 16:18, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

@Hewer: Except "Princess Peach" is used all the time, whereas "Rambi the Rhino" is barely ever used. Nightwicked Bowser 16:40, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

What about 'Princess Daisy'? That's very rarely used as far as I know, and it's still the title. There's also the Sonic characters who rarely go by their full names within the Mario & Sonic games. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 16:46, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not too familiar with the Sonic franchise but I assume their full titles would be used within that franchise. I should also bring up the title of Bowser, who's full title is "King Bowser" used quite often in certain games, yet we still just call him "Bowser" since that's still used more often, even in profiles. Regarding Daisy, I'm also not familiar with basically any game she appears in (see my userpage why), but looking through her profile page you seem to be right about that, most cards and stuff title her as just "Daisy" but that can be a seperate discussion. In comparison to that, "Princess Peach" is used way more often on similar cards, along with in-game profiles, so keeping that title still makes the most sense. Back to the Donkey Kong animals, I haven't seen an instance of the full titles being used outside of a single quote from Cranky Kong, which you can see on Rambi's page. Then there's the Tropical Freeze bosses, and the Legion of Stationery in Paper Mario: The Origami King, they have full titles too, but we still simply use their normal name. Nightwicked Bowser 17:27, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

@Keyblade Master: Not to mention the Luigi's Mansion Portrait Ghosts. Green Star 19:10, March 28, 2021 (EDT)

Worship Sentry Garage

Man this wiki is almost 16 years old and no one worships Sentry Garage yet? Let's change that

Proposer: TheDarkStar (talk)
Deadline: Maybe

Yes hail the sentry garage

1. TheDarkStar (talk) - You will submit to our god

I'm only here for the pie what's going on

1. Hewer (talk) I don't even like pie but it's better than this
2. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) Can we make Sentry Garage into a pie?
3. PinkYoshiFan (talk) Give me pie right now

No sod off

1. Waluigi Time (talk) that ain't how you spell waluigi, pal

Who should take the red-capped plumber's position?

He is dead. In order to keep this wiki alive, we have to find a replacement for him. I have listed some names which are either associated to him or similar to his name. The 7th, 8th, and 9th options are by User:Waluigi Time. The 10th option is by User:Doc von Schmeltwick.

note from waluigi time: i have edited the proposal to be better with options that aren't bad

Proposer: Wynn Liaw (talk)
Deadline: April 8, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Luigi

1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) On the condition that he takes the form of his superior alter ego.

Link

1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) His name starts with L.

Maria

1. Keyblade Master (talk) As O'Chunks says

Marie

1. TheDarkStar (talk) - We just had March 13 this is plausible

Marth

1. Wynn Liaw (talk) Good swordman. Also, both the red-capped plumber and Marth begin with "Mar".

Martin Scorsese

1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) He could take the series in a bold cinematic direction. More importantly, his name also starts with Mar.

WAAAAALUIGI

1. Waluigi Time (talk) Best character in the franchise
2. Results May Vary (talk) Per Waluigi Time, if Shigeru Miyamoto won't respect Waluigi, it's our duty to give him the recognition that he deserves.

Steve from Minecraft

1. Waluigi Time (talk) Another good option

sans.

1. Waluigi Time (talk) hehe funny skeleton

DR. ROBOTNIK

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) PIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGAAAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!!

Leave it

1. Hewer (talk) We'll be fine without him he was annoying anyway
2. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) Not my first choice, but if all else fails, a blank space is more appealing than a commie sociopath.

Comments

This list is terrible, here's some better ones we can use

• Waluigi
• Steve (Minecraft)
• Sans

-- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:21, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

You can add to it if you want. Wynn Liaw 12:22, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

cool thanks -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:29, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

What, no other fat red guy with mustache? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:56, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

You can add him. Wynn Liaw 12:58, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

where's noshi. --Glowsquid (talk) 13:07, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

You can add him. Wynn Liaw 13:12, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

Pie

Pie

Proposer: Pie
Deadline: Pie

Pie

1. Alex95 (talk) - Pie
2. Wynn Liaw (talk) 3.14159...
3. Waluigi Time (talk) Yum
4. The Mansion (talk) When the moon hits your eye
5. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) I want my pie with some spectral jelly.
6. PinkYoshiFan (talk) Per Wynn Liaw.

Pie

1. TheDarkStar (talk) - I don't know guys maybe this pie is better
2. Hewer (talk) This one tastes better than the other two I verified

Pie

1. RHG1951 (talk) Pie pie, pie pie pie pie pie pie pie. Pie, pie pie pie pie pie pie. Pie pie, pie pie.
2. Keyblade Master (talk) Insert James May quote "That's a pie" from the Top Gear Motorhome Racing
3. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) Both this one and the first are delicious. Don't listen to liars pushing the second.

Pirate Goomba

Pirate Goomba is a pirate Goomba.

Proposer: The Mansion
Deadline: When I Actually Care

Yes

1. Hewer (talk) A notable member of the mushroom-like species of basic enemy characters originating from Nintendo's highly popular and successful media franchise Luigi, specifically the party video game Party 8 playable on Nintendo's seventh generation video game console known as the Wii, clad in an attire that greatly resembles that of a nefarious criminal who takes aggressive military action against and gains possession of the property of large sailing vessels intended to transport people and property upon the expanse of salt water that covers the majority of the Earth's surface without permission or legal right to do so nor intent to return said property, is a notable member of the mushroom-like species of basic enemy characters originating from Nintendo's highly popular and successful media franchise Luigi, specifically the party video game Party 8 playable on Nintendo's seventh generation video game console known as the Wii, clad in an attire that greatly resembles that of a nefarious criminal who takes aggressive military action against and gains possession of the property of large sailing vessels intended to transport people and property upon the expanse of salt water that covers the majority of the Earth's surface without permission or legal right to do so nor intent to return said property.

Definitely Yes

1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) Change his name to Pierate Goomba and we have a prime candidate to take M*rio's place.