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:No, that's against [[MarioWiki:Naming|policy]]: we're an English wiki - that's why we don't call the ''SMS'' King Boo "Bosu Teresa". '''Block Partier''': I agree that it's a good idea to have a ''M&L:SS'' section linking to this page with {{tem|Main}} (like how we deal with the King Boo articles): not including one right from the start was an oversight on my part, which I have now fixed. I disagree about the Bros. looking similar enough to leave them together: as I keep saying, normal Boomerang Bros. do not have plants growing out of their heads (I could ignore the other discrepancies in their appearance, but not this one). The head-sprouts are the only significant difference between the other Beanish Koopas and the mainstream enemies (Troopeas and normal Koopas; Paratroopeas and Scaratroopeas from Paratroopas; Lakipeas and Lakitus), suggesting the Boomerang Bro. is also meant to be a Beanbean Kingdom equivalent. Also, the Boomerang Bros. helmets are quite unlike the ''M&L:SS'' Hammer Bros.'s helmets, which resemble normal Hammer.Boomerang Bro. helmets, so it's not just a stylistic change, which one could argue is the case with the Dry Bones (although the French gave them a different name too, so I personally wouldn't object to splitting them out as well). I'd also like to point out the other naming issue afecting the ''M&L:SS'' Dry Bones: there's [[Dry Bones#Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga|the bunch found in Hoohoo Mountains]], but then there's also a group in Teehee Valley, which look different and have different Japanese, French and German names, and were given [[Dry Bones (Teehee Valley)|a separate article]] despite being called Dry Bones in English. If we used our discretion and went with the different names for the second species of Dry Bones, why not for the Boomerang Bros.? In both cases, the separated thing is ''similar'' to the parent species, but not quite the same, which was officially acknowledged in a couple regions, giving us legitimate grounds to split them. It is not illogical to have two articles for two things that are not the same, even if the differences are minimal: a lot of enemies in a lot of games are similar like that, especially in the RPGs (i.e. [[Terrapin]]s and [[Terra Cotta]]s; all the Dark versions of ''SPM'' enemies; [[Dark Koopa]]/[[Dark Paratroopa]] and other such ''PM'' series pairs for which the wings or lack thereof is the only difference; gold enemies in the ''M&L'' series, etc.). - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:08, 2 April 2011 (EDT)
:No, that's against [[MarioWiki:Naming|policy]]: we're an English wiki - that's why we don't call the ''SMS'' King Boo "Bosu Teresa". '''Block Partier''': I agree that it's a good idea to have a ''M&L:SS'' section linking to this page with {{tem|Main}} (like how we deal with the King Boo articles): not including one right from the start was an oversight on my part, which I have now fixed. I disagree about the Bros. looking similar enough to leave them together: as I keep saying, normal Boomerang Bros. do not have plants growing out of their heads (I could ignore the other discrepancies in their appearance, but not this one). The head-sprouts are the only significant difference between the other Beanish Koopas and the mainstream enemies (Troopeas and normal Koopas; Paratroopeas and Scaratroopeas from Paratroopas; Lakipeas and Lakitus), suggesting the Boomerang Bro. is also meant to be a Beanbean Kingdom equivalent. Also, the Boomerang Bros. helmets are quite unlike the ''M&L:SS'' Hammer Bros.'s helmets, which resemble normal Hammer.Boomerang Bro. helmets, so it's not just a stylistic change, which one could argue is the case with the Dry Bones (although the French gave them a different name too, so I personally wouldn't object to splitting them out as well). I'd also like to point out the other naming issue afecting the ''M&L:SS'' Dry Bones: there's [[Dry Bones#Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga|the bunch found in Hoohoo Mountains]], but then there's also a group in Teehee Valley, which look different and have different Japanese, French and German names, and were given [[Dry Bones (Teehee Valley)|a separate article]] despite being called Dry Bones in English. If we used our discretion and went with the different names for the second species of Dry Bones, why not for the Boomerang Bros.? In both cases, the separated thing is ''similar'' to the parent species, but not quite the same, which was officially acknowledged in a couple regions, giving us legitimate grounds to split them. It is not illogical to have two articles for two things that are not the same, even if the differences are minimal: a lot of enemies in a lot of games are similar like that, especially in the RPGs (i.e. [[Terrapin]]s and [[Terra Cotta]]s; all the Dark versions of ''SPM'' enemies; [[Dark Koopa]]/[[Dark Paratroopa]] and other such ''PM'' series pairs for which the wings or lack thereof is the only difference; gold enemies in the ''M&L'' series, etc.). - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:08, 2 April 2011 (EDT)
::I was unaware that they Dry Bones enemy had been split; the last time I checked was back when I made the article featured, and I simply put the different "species," so to speak, in the same article. If given the option, I would say to merge the similar Dry Bones into the same article as well. I disagree with each of your points on appearance, but as they are subjective, I find no reason to continue arguing about it. Lastly, I am split on the idea of merging the Dark enemies in SPM with their PM/TTYD relatives; Half of me would love to merge them, the other half wants them to remain split. Since that's not the issue here, though, I won't go into it. I rest my case. {{user|Bloc Partier}}
::I was unaware that they Dry Bones enemy had been split; the last time I checked was back when I made the article featured, and I simply put the different "species," so to speak, in the same article. If given the option, I would say to merge the similar Dry Bones into the same article as well. I disagree with each of your points on appearance, but as they are subjective, I find no reason to continue arguing about it. Lastly, I am split on the idea of merging the Dark enemies in SPM with their PM/TTYD relatives; Half of me would love to merge them, the other half wants them to remain split. Since that's not the issue here, though, I won't go into it. I rest my case. {{user|Bloc Partier}}
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Revision as of 21:32, April 13, 2011

Mario & Luigi series formatting

Due to the short amount of information in the Paper Mario series section, the Mario & Luigi section is formatted badly. Simply leaving it as-is results in a very crowded look, but [br clear=all] results in too much white space. To get around this, I added 18 empty lines between the two sections, giving the page a clean formatting-look when published. I was wondering if this was okay, since it's currently the only way to make it look so good. If it is, I'd like this to serve as a warning so people won't remove the lines thinking it's a mistake. Redstar 10:36, 8 December 2009 (EST)

actually, their shells are blue,but on the picture in the main article their shell is black.the pic is too old.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Club Penguin (talk).

Separate M&L:SS Boomerang Bro.?

They look nothing like normal Hammer Bros. (tall and skinny, with sunglasses, no boots, brown boomerangs, and purple domed helmets with sprout growing out of the top...), so I think we should give them their own article to reflect the fact that they're a different species. This is going by the same logic that split Dark Koopatrol (Super Paper Mario) from Dark Koopatrol, which led to similar splits of Dark Paratroopa and Dark Koopa. I'll make a Talk Page Proposal if I have to, but if we can come to an informal consensus, I think it'd be faster (the aforementioned Koopatrol pages were split without need of a TPP). - Walkazo 00:28, 19 February 2011 (EST)

I think they are like Troopeas; they are Bean Bean versions of them except their name remains unchanged from the normal species. When I first encountered them, I didn't think that they are a Boomerang Bro. BabyLuigiFire.pngRay Trace(T|C)

Since no one opposed, I split them. - Walkazo 13:53, 11 March 2011 (EST)

Merge Boomerang bros M&L:SS to Boomerang Bro.

I feel this is necessary since the Japanese name for both simply calls them Boomerang Bro. also they share the same attack and it doesnt make sense to have them as two seperate species of the same name since we don't have anything else like that

Proposer: Iggykoopa (talk)
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