MarioWiki:Main Page talk archive 29

Poll Selection

So, since the polls are back, shouldn't we use the Poll Selection page again? MrConcreteDonkey

No, because there is a committee of users in charge of selecting polls now. · SMB (Talk) · 22:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I see. MrConcreteDonkey

problem

I don't know if this happens to anyone else but where the polls are, the box is cut off so I can't read it. GalacticPetey

HMm... can you post a screenshot, please? --™ The 'Shroom 18:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, if I go to view results I can read it a lot better. GalacticPetey

The new Main Page...

...looks awesome! I wasn't a big fan of removing FIs and even I have to say this is amazing. Great job there, guys. Template:Color-link-pipedFile:Star.PNGTemplate:Color-link-piped 22:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

All credit goes to Steve :) --™ The 'Shroom 19:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Noob question: How do I change the poll so it appears instead of just "Link" and "Surveys"? It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:25, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

NO script is doing it. Allow PollDaddy.com and see if it works.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

Oh. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 23:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Five Years as of 78 minutes ago!

Congratulations MarioWiki! Wa _T^C_@^Y 19:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

(blows that thing they use at parties) Congrats! MrConcreteDonkey 19:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It's called a "party favor." *throws bob-ombs everywhere and everything explodes*

Ray Trace^(T|C)

WAHOO! 5 YEARS! WE SURVIVED 5 YEARS! CRANK UP THE BASS MAN! GalacticPetey

Happy birthday Mario Wiki! This is a present for ya.(the bob omb may explode at any time...hihi...)

Count Bonsula I need blood...

Nice Present! Hey everyone! Lets all do the Mario! GalacticPetey

Wow, amazing! 5 years... not as easy as they seem. Congratulations MarioWiki and Steve. Now let's go for another 5! --™ The 'Shroom 02:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday MarioWiki! Fawfulfury65

Another year older, ha ha ha.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

Happy birthday Super Mario Wiki!!! Here's to 5 awesome years of a truly "Super" Wiki! (Spot the bad joke.) *Accidentally steps on Bob-Omb while celebrating* This Is War 13:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

What a coincidence, today (GMT) is Friday the 13th, wow. Not that I'm superstitious anyway

Ray Trace^(T|C)

Me neither, who needs luck when you have skill anyway? - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Image Glich

On the Unused files page, there are two images at the top: one of a green Yoshi and one of a purple Yoshi. They are unnecessary, so I want to delete them. But for some reason, I can't edit it. I can only "create" it. Anybody know why? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Well, I've "restored" the images. So they should technically exist now. --Steve (talk) 02:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Foreign names in the opening paragraph

There's an inconsistency in the opening paragraphs of the articles I noticed: In not so many, but still in a notable number of articles, the Japanese name is mentioned in the lead. Actually, I'm perfectly with that, as the Japanese name is the original one in most cases and therefore deserves this treatment. What about adding the name used for the original (not generally Japanese) version to the articles? Like how it is done at Bulbapedia, e.g. "Midbus (Japanese: メタボス Metaboss)". On the other hand, Krow would actually not need his Japanese name in the lead, as he was created by Rare. Episodes of the Donkey Kong Country animated series would have the French name in the lead, as French is the show's original language. Any thoughts? At least there should be consistency on this. --Grandy02 21:51, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't really like this style. It doesn't leave any room to explain the etymology. - 2257^(Talk) 22:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The English name's meaning is also often explained in the Trivia section rather than the lead. Or what do you mean? --Grandy02 10:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

The English name is explained in the Trivia section because there isn't a template for explaining it. We have a template to put names in languages other than English in and explain their meaning though, so I don't really see why we wouldn't use it. Even if the Japanese name is the original one, it's still a name in another language on an English-language Wiki, so I feel it makes sense to have it in the section for Names in Other Languages (which is how most articles currently handle it); given the section's heading, most people would probably look there first when looking for names in other languages, and it feels more organised that way to me.--vellidragon 14:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't mean that the original name should be removed from the template, sorry if my statements implied that. I thought it could work the same way as at Bulbapedia. Template:BP, for example - the original Japanese name is mentioned in the lead and then there's also Template:BP for all names with explanations (unlike this wiki, Bulbapedia also lists the English name in the template). I think the original name should be mentioned in the lead, since it is, well, the original one, and therefore deserves more attention than the other foreign names. --Grandy02 15:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Featured Images?

Sure, the polls are back, but the featured images are gone! Can't we just put everthing we need to on the main page? There's no size limit I don't think.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beecanoe (talk).

There was a proposal to remove the FIs, It was the same one that suggested to get back the polls and the majority supported it. Also, please sign your comments.--Mr bones 16:09, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

FIs and Polls

I don't know if this a possibility, but if some people want both the poll and the Featured Images, then why can't we just make room for both off them. I don't know if it works like that but if you van add more room, i don't see why not. --New Super Mario

No, this has been discussed enough. The people voted for the polls, and wanted the FIs gone, we listened to them. --™ The 'Shroom 19:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm new ere so what are FIs? - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Featured Images. It's an old system that was taken down because the process wasn't that great. We replaced it with polls. Ray Trace^(T|C) 00:34, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Concerning Japanese and Chinese Characters

How come in some computers, I actually see the actual characters, while other computers, I see boxes with numbers on them? Is there some sort of extension missing in my certain computer? Please specify. I'm curious.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

Probably: my old computer can't display the characters either, and while it usually blames the Internet browser for being incompatible, all the programs have this shortcoming. In one of the manuals I read (the one for Photoshop, I think), it said that that foreign alphabets have to be separately uploaded. However, I doubt your computer works the same way my antique does (it's a Mac OS from the '90s), so your best bet would be to look it up online. Sorry I can't be more specific or helpful... - Walkazo 22:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

It's ok. At least I received a helpful reply. Ray Trace^(T|C)

Halopedia

Can I ask why there's a link to the Halopedia at the bottom of the screen? If you don't know what I'm taking about, look at the bottom. Privacy policy, About the MarioWiki, Disclaimers, Web Development by Virvo, Halopedia. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Affiliation I believe. ' BluePikminKong497 22:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's like our sister wiki from back in the day: Porplemontage and AgentSeethroo helped each other with the founding of their respective websites. - Walkazo 22:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Number Man

You all probably know the User that keeps making accounts with a bunch of random numbers. Well I noticed that similar things are happening on Wikipedia and Wikizilla. Just thought I'd point that out. GalacticPetey

Galaxies need more images

Hello, I am Mariobros8. I am a Wikia wiki editor (Smashbro8 on Wikia). I've noticed that certain galaxy pages need more images such as the Dusty Dune Galaxy, Spin Dig Galaxy, Puzzle Plank Galaxy, Boulder Bowl Galaxy, Throwback Galaxy, Cloudy Court Galaxy, Haunty Halls Galaxy, Starshine Beach Galaxy, Boss Blitz Galaxy, etc. I was wondering if you guys can add more pictures to the pages. Please contact me when you have the pictures. --Mariobros8 23:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)Mariobros8

You know, you can add the images yourself if you want too. Fawfulfury65

I am currently in that process. No need to worry. --FREAK ~Game Freak~ OUT!

Hey

How do you become a partoller or anything? I'l love to help. Please comment on my talk though. ☆ ☆ ☆ This is NOT GamingGal9's user page! This is not her talk!☆ ☆ ☆

This link will show you what you must do. But of course, you don't need to be a patroller or anything to help out with the wiki. Baby

Mario Bloops

Talk Archives

Can someone please tell me how to make a talk archive. I made an Archive 1 but when I still go to my talkpage it redirects. How can I make it stop?--KayKay Chat to me!

I fixed it :) --™ The 'Shroom 01:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks--KayKay Chat to me! 01:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

No prob --™ The 'Shroom 01:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Bots

How do you become a bot?--KayKay Chat to me!

You can't. Bots don't exist. Fawfulfury65

Awwwwwww because I know how to speak binary. (I have a binary message on my talkpage!)--KayKay Chat to me!

Can't make Page!!

I'm trying to make a page by searching a name that I know doesn't exist but there is no 'Create this Page' link. Instead there's a blue link that takes me to World 1 (Super Mario Bros.). How do I fix this problem? SKmaric (talk)

It's blue because the article already exists. Fawfulfury65

Okay, let's just say I'm trying to make a page called something like World 1-1 (Super Mario Bros.), but I can't make it. Instead I get redirected automatically to World 1 (Super Mario Bros.).SKmaric (talk)

What if I create a page with a random name, then use the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} template? SKmaric (talk)

To answer your first question. A redirect page has been created to lead you into the article you just typed. That way, if you type that in a search engine, you would go to this page instead of "Page cannot be found". If you were lead to a page via redirect, click on the topmost link, where it says, "redirect from *insert Toon Link here*".

For your second question, display title will only display the title on your page/tab/whatever. It's just a mere display. Typing in the link won't take you to that article, but instead, show up as a red link.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

How about I just edit the redirect page so it's an actual article, as well as a link to the page it originally redirected to.

SKmaric (talk)

Wait, are you trying to make World 1-1 a seperate page? If so, that is completely pointless and ultimately n00bish stupidity. o_0 This Is War 16:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

BTW, your sig is very big, make it fit here:

User:User:SKmarioman/sig/sig

--™ The 'Shroom 19:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

When you try to create a page for World 1 - 1, you are redirected to the Word 1 article because the 1 - 1 level is merged in that article. The redirect is there for a reason, don't edit it. Fawfulfury65

My point exactly, FawfulFury. This Is War 11:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

IM NEW!

Im new to super mario wiki and confused.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariofanman88 (talk).

Help:Contents --™ The 'Shroom 00:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Lylat Wiki

Lylat Wiki is now in NIWA, so you may wanna squeeze that into your NIWA bar. Two others will be added as well these next weeks, so keep your eyes peeled! (: Malake256 17:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll add it :) --™ The 'Shroom 18:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

That's Starfox, right? - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Boss Category Placement

I'm new to this wiki so I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I noticed something that I think should be changed. I'm going to give the example of Bouldergeist. Bouldergeist, I noticed, is in all three categories; Bosses, Enemies, and Characters. I personally think the wiki would be better if bosses like Bouldergeist stayed only in the Bosses category. Also, enemies would only include more "everyday", minor enemies, and Characters would pretty much only contain playable characters and other protagonists, etc. This would reduce the amount of links in each category, and things would not be repeated.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarioFan25 (talk).

Actually, one of the things we want in categories, is to "categorize" them in as many categories as they fall in. I agree, things should not be repeated, but he is a Boss, an enemy and a character. --™ The 'Shroom 20:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

True, but couldn't you argue that with pretty much any boss? --MarioFan25 22:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup. They're are enemies, aren't they? And they are a character, aren't they also? You can say the same thing with Mario and his friends. Anything that is not an object is a character. Anything that blocks the protagonist from reaching his/her goal is an enemy.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

That's not how "enemy" is defined in Category:Enemies, though. The description text of the category makes it rather clear that it's for "regular enemies" and that opponents only fought as bosses should be in Category:Bosses, so, keeping that description in mind, there's no reason for a boss that doesn't also appear as a regular enemy to be both in Bosses and Enemies.--vellidragon 19:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I (again) agree with Vellidragon. An enemy is defined (IMO and in the category's opinion) as a species of creature fought by Mario & co. more than once (Note: Rematches with a boss do not count). A Boss is defined as a character which appears once, most probably has text, most probably changes the music but, over all, appears only once per game and, if he appears again, it is obvious that it is the exact same guy. Finally a character is defined as someone with a proper name given to them, not just a generic member of a species. So I agree with Vellidragon and on another level, MarioFan25, we should seperate the articles into which categories they actually fall under. Marioguy1 (talk)

I also agree with the above categorization. If we're going to do this though, we're going to need quite the overhaul since they're all like that at this point in time. Not saying it can't be done, but it'll take some effort. Phoenix Rider (talk) 20:14, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

• volunteers*! Work, shmork, I'll do it so long as I have permission. Marioguy1 (talk)

Ya know, the Smorg from Paper Mario: TTYD would just be a boss, seeing as it's just a giant, creepy cluster of individual smorgs which aren't really characters, more like a species of enemies. I say someone/something sentient/semi-sentient should be able to be categorized as "characters" - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Many characters are sentient (I assume by sentient you mean they communicate on an interactive level with another being) however we have no article on Koopa Troopa XYZ from Koopa Village because it is not notable enough. We include it in the generic article Koopa Troopa. However the article contains sentient and non-sentient Koopa Troopas in it so I don't think that is an accurate classification. Marioguy1 (talk)

Sentient technically means "self-aware; able to make subjective judgments". JF (contribs) 13:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

warning

i dont know what i did to get a warning!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Agentorange (talk).

Read my comment under the warning. Fawfulfury65

Creating a Page

I can't create a page without it going to an error saying "This page does not exist" on the Yahoo search engine. Like if I searched a page that doesn't exist on the wiki, it goes to the Yahoo search engine and says "This page does not exist". HOW DO I CREATE A PAGE!?

--Landfish7 20:38, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I didn't know I had to be autoconfirmed. Can a Sysop create my userpage please? BTW, I'm not some N00B spammer here to vandalise here is my account at bulbapedia --> [1]

--Landfish7 20:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

User pages???

Hi, I am Mariobros8. I am wondering how do you users get your user pages to be so awesome? Please get back to me, so that I can get a cool user page. Oh, and how do you get your signature to be an image? --Mariobros8 02:33, 9 November 2010 (UTC)Mariobros8

I'm sorry, but you have to use your imagination and your creativity (as long as it abides to the rules) to create a great userpage. That's why we can't help you on this. For your second question, I'm not too sure, but there is a certain way to do it. You can ask Tucayo, since his is like that. Ray Trace^(T|C)

Just do it this way [DESTINATION_URL IMAGE_URL] --™ The 'Shroom 02:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey agentorange here.how do you make your userbox tower thingamajiggers? thanks

See MarioWiki:Userbox: it explains what to do and has lots of boxes to choose from, but remember to not use too many. - Walkazo 02:41, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

MarioWiki newspaper's next issue date

It says November 14th^th, why double "th" is unknown. SWFlash

Ok. --Steve (talk) 23:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

New NIWA Member

A new wiki called Nintendo Wiki joined NIWA today, might want to put that in the NIWA box. WigglerWhoopinWarrior135'

Image problem

When I try to upload this one image, I get this:

"Files of the MIME type "application/x-php" are not allowed to be uploaded."

I don't understand what all that means. I'm uploading this image just like any other image I get. Fawfulfury65

What's the file format? --™ The 'Shroom 22:48, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's a PNG. Fawfulfury65

I uploaded a jpg earlier and did not have this problem. MrConcreteDonkey 22:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Principessa in Another Castello

Hey I just got Assassins Creed Brotherhood and I was looking through the trophies (which you earn by doing stuff in the game like completeing a mission) and a trophy is called "Principessa in Another Castello" a obvious refrence to 'The Princess is in another castle' so should we maybe put this as trivia or something? --Dry Bob-omb 10:25, 2 January 2011 (EST)

That's actually already mentioned in the Video game references page (and wouldn't really fit anywhere else), but thanks for asking! - Walkazo 17:02, 2 January 2011 (EST)

News?

Not completely sure where to put this, but it may or may not be news: is this spam or legitimate? [[2]] Mpeng (talk)

I think the word "Unofficial" may ring a bell. It's just fanart. It's not spam and it is not a real game. MrConcreteDonkey 18:54, 7 January 2011 (EST)

ADS!

The ADS ARE GONE! How did that happen?--Koopayoshi 15:50, 9 January 2011 (EST)

I think they go away when you log in, but I'm not sure because I'm automatically logged in when I enter this website. Fawfulfury65

I never had ads here, possibly because I had 'hosts' file filled. SWFlash

Idea for new poll.

Here it is. The question is "Who do you want to see in Mario Kart 3DS?" and the awnsers would be Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Wario, Toad, Bowser, Daisy, Waluigi, another returning character, a new Kong, a new classic character, a new Nintendo character and a new crossover character.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by DK Fan (talk).

They are common characters, I suggest rare options to be like "Donkey Kong Jr.", "Toadette", "Shy Guy", etc. SWFlash

I think Peach is comfirmed to be in the game. Vinnie

Nobody but Mario and Luigi was confirmed. SWFlash

RPG

Who wants to be in my RPG? :) File:GrácovitzRiendo.gifFawful117 Remember, if you haven't requested to be in my RPG(if you want to), just come to my chat page and I'll see if I can put you in! I HAVE CHORTLES! =)File:GrácovitzRiendo.gif 20:37, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Go to the MarioWiki forum if you want to advertise something like this. --Reversinator 20:46, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Well, this is embarrassing

"All right" is spelled wrong on the current poll. The word "alright" doesn't even exist. Can someone fix it, if possible?

Ray Trace^(T|C)

Alright is informal, as is the poll, really. --Steve (talk) 13:22, 28 January 2011 (EST)

"Alright" is an alternate form of the term "all right" that should be avoided in formal writing, but can be used in informal speech or written dialogue. The options given in said poll were written in a quote-like, informal way. Therefore, the term "alright" might arguably qualify as controversial, but it is not "wrong" as you claim. Also, claiming that this term is nonexistent is really far-fetched. - Gabumon^(talk) 13:27, 28 January 2011 (EST)

I agree, it's not embarrassing at all. The word "alright" is a very valid word, I've seen it spelt like that all of the time.

"All right" isn't even that correct really, as it leans more towards saying that it is all correct. MrConcreteDonkey 13:39, 28 January 2011 (EST)

Well, I'm not the one who is wrong. I got this from my grammar book, so...

Ray Trace^(T|C)

It might be old or something. Vinnie

Shroom Fix

The part of the main page that has the Shroom section on it should be changed. It says Issue XLV and next issue January 16th, which both of those things are in the past. Supremo

SMB will probably do it sometime. Vinnie

Naw, any sysop can do it. SMB doesn't have that on his list of things to do. Marioguy1 (talk)

I need help!

Hi, I am Mariobros8, again. Sorry to bother you guys but I need your help. Do you guys know exactly what levels do Micro-Goombas and Super Dry Bones appear in in New Super Mario Bros. Wii? Please respond back to me. --Mariobros8 14:25, 20 February 2011 (EST)Mariobros8

Put it on it's respective article. Also the 'Shroom calender is gliched--Master Koopakid 16:07, 20 February 2011 (EST)

What's an "RPG"? - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

"Role Playing Game", like the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi games. For future reference, MarioWiki:Glossary defines lots of acronyms and terms like "RPG". - Walkazo 19:24, 6 March 2011 (EST)

Gee, I knew that.... wow now I feel kinda stupid haha - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

SiteNotice

Can somebody please tell me what this SiteNotice thing is? Yoshiwaker

The sitenotice is a message that appears on every single page of the wiki (for logged-in users). It's a good way to get notices out to users, I suggest you read it often because the admins will be using it to keep you updated on all major changes. Marioguy1 (Talk | Contribs)

Latest Proposal

The "Split DCKR enemies" proposal is no longer the latest proposal, in fact, it's already passed. Bop1996 _(Talk)

It has been updated, just so you know, anyone can update it by editing this page. Marioguy1 (Talk | Contribs)

Thanks, I had no idea I could do that, I thought only sysops and admins could change the main page, directly or indirectly. It's nice to know another thing I can do to help the wiki. Bop1996 _(Talk)

Character Tornament

I'm new to this wiki so i don't really know how it works, but i think we should hold a character torrrnamen where charachers battle and users vote for who they would want to win just like sonic news network did
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariofan7654 (talk).

There was The Ultimate Character Tournament, but it ended long ago. Pokémon Trainer Mario (talk)

Why don't we hold one every year
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariofan7654 (talk).

Because it's needless extra: we should focus our energy on improving the database. We already have the polls and The 'Shroom for voting/community stuff: that's good enough. Also, please sign your comments with ~~~~. - Walkazo 10:52, 30 March 2011 (EDT)

Please get rid of malicious ads!

I clicked on an ad from "playpickle.com" on Mariowiki and i got a virus!delete anything from playpicle on this wiki.its malicious and can ruin your computer! User:Redyoshi911/sig

Vinnie The ads are by Google. There is no way you can remove them.

How can you get a virus by simply browsing a site? If you really want to remove them, download Firefox and get some ad blocking program.

Ray Trace^(T|C)

@BLOF: Java. The same way google installs your Chrome without even calling downloader. SWFlash

why does google get to post ads on mario wiki?thats stupid!
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Redyoshi911 (talk).

Google posts ads on the wiki and Steve gets money to run the wiki. However I'm pretty surethat the ads are very minimal; I can't even find one when I look so it can't be too bad. Maybe you should make sure you are logged in? I suggest that you just not click the ads and if you do, try the back button. Marioguy1 (Talk | Contribs)

Paper Mario 2 Creepy Steeple Glitch FALSE

You know that glitch with the invisible platform outside the Steeple? Well, I tried the glitch and proved it false. It's not an invisible platform, it's an invisible ? block. Therefore, it's not a glitch, and I deleted that, okay? :)

~Darkfawful~ Darkevil, darkpower, darkdark!

Okay, but don't explain edits here: just say what you're doing in the edit summary, or possibly in the page's talk page. This place is for more general wiki issues. - Walkazo 00:01, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

Template on top

This sounds stupid, but "alright" isn't an actual word. I suggest that we change it to "all right" to make our wiki look more professional. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 21:20, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

I think that we already had a discussion about how alright is a proper word...I don't really see the point. Marioguy1 (Talk | Contribs)

Images

Hi, it is again, Mariobros8. Is there a way to take images from Youtube? You see, I was searching for images on some Donkey Kong Country Returns enemies and I can't find them. Then when I watch videos on Youtube, they have the enemies right there! So again, I was just asking if there is a possible way to get images from Youtube? By the way, if you look for videos that feature the DKCR enemies that aren't yet made on this wiki and watch them, you may be able to create their pages. Just put an image template on them though.--Mariobros8 19:47, 27 March 2011 (EDT)Mariobros8.

Use "PrtScn" button. Crop using Paint or an image editing program. Save. Uhh, tada? Ray Trace^(T|C)

Also, if you have Microsoft OneNote, you can use the Insert Screen Clipping feature to clip out a portion of anything on the screen. You can then save the screen clipping as a picture.

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 15:04, 28 March 2011 (EDT)