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===Outline a consistent table format for "Recipes" sections===
==Plans==
Recently on the wiki's Discord server, the user PalaceSwitcher brought out how inconsistent the recipe tables are for ''Paper Mario'' series item pages. They even went through every page and categorized how the tables on each differ, determining that '''12''' variations exist. 12! Dreadful. Where's the <s>lamb sauce</s> consistency?!
1. Add missing recipes (and maybe rewrite some of the body paragraphs of recipe pages)


With that said, I think it would be best if we simply come up with a new table format altogether, and then implement it onto all these pages for both consistency and better readability. Many pages are also missing recipes, and this will make it easier for those to be completed. Another issue with how things are handled now is the fact that there is one big table per page, requiring another column to specify which game(s) the recipe is in. Not only does an extra game column make the table clunkier, but it's harder for a reader to spot the exact game they're looking for. Sure, there might be repeated recipes on a page, but I feel the benefits of having one table per game outweigh this negative (which I don't even consider to be one, necessarily). A few pages also incorporate item icons into their tables, which I think should be the case on every page because they really help with readability. The subject of the article will be in bold.
2. Double check [[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) bestiary]] stats


So, here's what I'm thinking the Recipes section of these pages could look like with the new table format. We'll use the [[Mushroom Steak]] as an example, considering it's a recipe found in all three games. Note that each game will be its own subsection on the actual pages, as doing so here would just mess up the formatting of the proposal.
3. Add NIOL citations to TTYD pages (and then choose the next game to focus on with that)


'''''Paper Mario'''''
4. Go in-depth about Concordians on the [[Concordia]] page (catalogue body types, colors, clothing - clothing specifically differs depending on island but some design elements are shared between more than one island so worth a mention on the Concordia page too)
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
!width="75%"|Recipe
!width="25%"|Result
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom|Ultra Shroom]]
|rowspan=9|Shroom Steak
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Shroom]] + [[Dried Mushroom|Dried Shroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Shroom]] + [[Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Shroom]] + [[Ultra Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom|Ultra Shroom]] + [[Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom|Ultra Shroom]] + [[Super Mushroom|Super Shroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom|Ultra Shroom]] + [[Volt Mushroom|Volt Shroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom|Ultra Shroom]] + [[Dried Mushroom|Dried Shroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Shroom]] + [[Super Mushroom|Super Shroom]]
|-
|Shroom Steak + [[Potato Salad]]
|[[Deluxe Feast]]
|}


'''''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'''''
5. Get back into ''[[Super Mario-kun]]'' coverage (images, character appearances)
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
!width="75%"|Recipe
!width="25%"|Result
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]]
|rowspan=9|Mushroom Steak
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Dried Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Ultra Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Super Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Volt Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Dried Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Super Mushroom]]
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Golden Leaf]]
|rowspan=4|Mushroom Steak (International)<br>Life Mushroom (Japan)
|-
|[[Life Mushroom (Paper Mario series)|Life Mushroom]] + [[Turtley Leaf]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Golden Leaf]]
|-
|[[Ultra Mushroom]] + [[Turtley Leaf]]
|-
|Mushroom Steak + [[Healthy Salad]]
|[[Zess Deluxe]]
|}


'''''Super Paper Mario'''''
==Brothership side quest gossip==
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
===[[Coming Home]]===
!width="75%"|Recipe
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Did you hear, dear?''"
!width="25%"|Result
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Looks like Willma's son/daughter is coming to Shipshape.''"
|-
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''"Coming," nothing, look over there!''"
|[[Ultra Shroom Shake]]
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Oh my! Maybe they'll live together again, mother and son/daughter under the same roof! Wouldn't that be nice? I think so, anyway.''"
|Mushroom Steak
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Well, I hear the child hasn't even gone to visit her at home yet.''"
|-
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Is that so?''"
|Shroom Steak + [[Gorgeous Steak]]
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Oh dear. Well, I suppose Willma can be a little bit intimidating.''"
|rowspan=2|[[Dyllis Deluxe]]
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Why, didn't she silence a whole island with that thunderous 'tude of hers?''"
|-
*All: "''Ah, we go too far! Ohohohohohoho!''"
|Mushroom Steak + [[Mushroom Roast|Roast Shroom Dish]]
<br>
|}
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Do you think Willma and her child have reconnected?''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Have they seen each other yet?''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Ohhh, that's worrying...''"


Should the subject of the page be bolded?
===[[An Invitation to the Spa]]===
Should the icon from each page be used? Like, we don't just use the TTYD remake icons?
There might be a first part to this...? I'm confused...
Do you guys prefer results on the left or right?
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Hon... Isn't your husband toiling away on Raynforst? How is he doing?''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Toiling, that I can't say! But I bet he's in over his head over on Raynforst. My husband used to be a big deal in the city but couldn't get there when the land broke up. He hasn't known what to do for the longest time. I had to shove him out the door!''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Ah! So he finally found his calling on Raynforst! Wonderful!''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''I've said it before, and I'll say it again. My husband is great at working hard. Or hardly working!''"
*All: ''"Oh goodness! Ohohohohoho!''"
{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''I hope my husband is doing well working on Raynforst Island...''"
 
===[[Arc's Secret]]===
 
===[[Spiralia's New Creation]]===
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Say... Did you change your hairstyle recently, dear?''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Oh my. Is it that obvious? You know Spiralia from Twistee? I've started using her hair wax!''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Good for you! I love her shop.''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''I hear she's started a new business out of that shop...and she wants people to come test it out.''"
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Really? About time! That ol' hairstyling shack of hers could USE more style!''"
*All: "''Oh my stars! Ohohohoho!''"
{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''I'm very intrigued by whatever Spiralia's new business is!''"
 
===[[Investigating the Abductions!]]===
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Oh, sweeties, you know, I just can't stand it!''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''What's wrong, dear?''"
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''It's those strange birds flying around!''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''They give me the chills. And there are more and more of them!''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''I saw one swoop down and snatch up someone at Rumbla Island.''"
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Really? How horrible!''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''They'll come for the three of us. I'm surprised they haven't yet...''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Me too! Look at us! We're TASTY!''"
*All: "''We are, aren't we? Ohohohoho!''"
(missing line when you talk for a second time)
 
===[[A Mother's Worries]]===
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Ladies! Have you been to that new shop?''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''That shop that Willma's son/daughter opened? That kid's a hard worker.''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''You can get something made lickety-split, as long as you bring the materials.''"
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Good head on that kid. I'm really impressed.''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''But you know... That poor child seems kind of down lately.''"
*{{conjectural|Yellow Hint Lady}}: "''Really? With that shop such a success? How sad...''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Maybe that's the problem. The shop's too busy for any time off to see ol' mom. That kid must miss Willma terribly. And a mother always misses her child!''"
*{{conjectural|Blue Hint Lady}}: "''Ah, it hurts my old heart to hear it. Such a shame. My kid can't WAIT to break away and live away from this ol' mom.''"
*{{conjectural|Red Hint Lady}}: "''Mine too. But then we'll finally get to live our own lives!''"
*All: "''Ohohohoho! Can't wait!''"
(missing line when you talk for a second time)
 
===[[Zokket's Schemes]]===
 
===[[Back to IDLE's Roots]]===
 
===[[Little Lost Toad]]===
 
===[[A Vision in Pink]]===
 
===[[It's Dorrie!]]===
 
===[[Letter from a Drifting Island]]===
 
===[[Stepped into a Slump]]===
 
===[[More Than One Code]]===
 
===[[Monster Mania: Level 1]]===
 
===[[The Left-Behind Toad]]===
 
===[[The Courier]]===
 
===[[The Runaway Son]]===
 
===[[Ultra-Sweet, Super-Rich Cake]]===
 
===[[Guardian Spirit]]===
 
===[[Monster Mania: Level 2]]===
 
===[[Toad in the Sand]]===
 
===[[Frostbitten Toads]]===
 
===[[Fear of Glohm]]===
 
===[[A Big Debate]]===
 
===[[Gorumbla Gone Good]]===
 
===[[Glohm Gobblick]]===
 
===[[The Fossil and the Bones]]===
 
===[[Leyden's Piscine PR Plans]]===
 
===[[Separated]]===
 
===[[Technikki's Past]]===
 
===[[The Empty Nests]]===
 
===[[Missing Ring]]===
 
===[[A Dear Friend]]===
 
===[[Warms You Inside and Out]]===
 
===[[Feelings of Dread]]===
 
===[[Toads Undercover]]===
 
===[[Glohm Sharpcask]]===
 
===[[Treasure-Hunting Brothers]]===
 
===[[The Lonely Great Conductor]]===
 
===[[Dueling Geniuses]]===
 
===[[How's Bowser's Health?]]===
 
===[[Monster Mania: Level 3]]===
 
===[[Monster Mania: Level 4]]===
 
===[[Monster Mania: Level 5]]===
 
===[[Glohm Pipegunk]]===
 
===[[Cozette's Decision]]===
 
==Parasite Steve (yes, Porplemontage reference)==
(Draft / notes for a possible [[:Category:Parasites]] proposal)
 
Something you might not know about me is that I'm a biology major in college. (Stuff about how the name "parasite" for this category that's just about HP mechanics is confusing, also that I'm not going to use the purely accurate biological definition of parasite here, but rather what people commonly consider them to be - there's not going to be scientific accuracy in a series like this)
 
"Parasitic creatures in the Super Mario franchise. They often attach themselves to other creatures, typically to attack or hinder abilities. They may also use this to replenish their own health." (key words: "often" and "may". It's not even exclusively about that?)
 
The two subcategories, [[:Category:Vampires]] and [[:Category:Viruses]] are clearly more based on the biological / typical definition of "parasite" and not the gameplay one used for the main category.
 
Voting options:
*Delete category
*Rename category
*Oppose
*(then I also need stuff about what to do with the subcategories, maybe those can stay as their own main categories?)
 
Definition of "parasite" from Merriam-Webster: "an organism living in, on, or with another organism in order to obtain nutrients, grow, or multiply often in a state that directly or indirectly harms the host"; some definitions include bacteria and viruses while others don't
 
Even if something is called a parasite, we make the distinction between "mind control" and "brainwash" here, even if a game's script says otherwise (like Fuzzies are explicitly called "parasites" but are they really?)
 
BLOF on Discord: "Mosquitos aren't parasites despite them taking our blood" - latching onto someone for an attack for a few seconds is different than ''living'' on them
 
Also Discord stuff, calling these leeching moves
 
Discord doesn't think a scientific parasites category is needed (like, actual parasites not just HP suckers), don't overcomplicate by making it a voting option
 
==="Parasites"===
*[[Belly Blech]]:
*[[Blood Pine]]:
*[[Blooper Baby]]:
*[[Bucculus]]:
*[[Durmite]]:
*[[Durmite X]]:
*[[Flower Fuzzy]]:
*[[Flurrie]]:
*[[The Fuzz]]:
*[[Fuzzy]]:
*[[Fuzzy Horde]]:
*[[Game bug]]:
*[[Giant Sockop]]:
*[[Grabbing Ghost]]:
*[[Green Fuzzy]]:
*[[Grim Leecher]]:
*[[Influenza tontonbū-gata]]:
*[[Jungle Fuzzy]]:
*[[Kamikami]]:
*[[Karikari]]:
*[[Konotako]]:
*[[Mega Bug]]:
*[[Metroid (species)]]:
*[[Mini Goomba]]:
*[[Poink]]:
*[[ReDead]]:
*[[Scratchy the 'Fro Bug]]:
*[[Shadow Queen]]:
*[[Slurple]]:
*[[Smeech]]:
*[[Sockop]]:
*[[Swampire]]:
*[[Swoopula]]:
*[[Sworm]]:
*[[Tweeter Bat]]:
*[[Wario Bug]]:
 
===Vampires===
*[[Alucard]]:
*[[Bat Wario]]:
*[[Count Zoltan Dracula]]:
*[[Dracula]]:
*[[Exterminator]]:
*[[King Koopa's alter egos]]:
*[[Kurokyura]]:
*[[Magician (enemy)]]:
*[[Pionpi]]:
*[[Vampire Candy]]:
*[[Vampire Heyho]]:
*[[Vampire Wario]]:
 
===Viruses===
(specifically for ''Dr. Mario''-related viruses)
*[[Virus]]:
*[[Dizziness Virus]]:
*[[Floatie virus]]:
*[[King Virus]]:
*[[Wheel Virus]]:

Latest revision as of 16:46, February 4, 2025

Plans

1. Add missing recipes (and maybe rewrite some of the body paragraphs of recipe pages)

2. Double check Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) bestiary stats

3. Add NIOL citations to TTYD pages (and then choose the next game to focus on with that)

4. Go in-depth about Concordians on the Concordia page (catalogue body types, colors, clothing - clothing specifically differs depending on island but some design elements are shared between more than one island so worth a mention on the Concordia page too)

5. Get back into Super Mario-kun coverage (images, character appearances)

Brothership side quest gossip

Coming Home

  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Did you hear, dear?"
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Looks like Willma's son/daughter is coming to Shipshape."
  • Red Hint Lady: ""Coming," nothing, look over there!"
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Oh my! Maybe they'll live together again, mother and son/daughter under the same roof! Wouldn't that be nice? I think so, anyway."
  • Red Hint Lady: "Well, I hear the child hasn't even gone to visit her at home yet."
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Is that so?"
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Oh dear. Well, I suppose Willma can be a little bit intimidating."
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Why, didn't she silence a whole island with that thunderous 'tude of hers?"
  • All: "Ah, we go too far! Ohohohohohoho!"


  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Do you think Willma and her child have reconnected?"
  • Red Hint Lady: "Have they seen each other yet?"
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Ohhh, that's worrying..."

An Invitation to the Spa

There might be a first part to this...? I'm confused...

  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Hon... Isn't your husband toiling away on Raynforst? How is he doing?"
  • Red Hint Lady: "Toiling, that I can't say! But I bet he's in over his head over on Raynforst. My husband used to be a big deal in the city but couldn't get there when the land broke up. He hasn't known what to do for the longest time. I had to shove him out the door!"
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Ah! So he finally found his calling on Raynforst! Wonderful!"
  • Red Hint Lady: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again. My husband is great at working hard. Or hardly working!"
  • All: "Oh goodness! Ohohohohoho!"

Red Hint Lady: "I hope my husband is doing well working on Raynforst Island..."

Arc's Secret

Spiralia's New Creation

  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Say... Did you change your hairstyle recently, dear?"
  • Red Hint Lady: "Oh my. Is it that obvious? You know Spiralia from Twistee? I've started using her hair wax!"
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Good for you! I love her shop."
  • Red Hint Lady: "I hear she's started a new business out of that shop...and she wants people to come test it out."
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Really? About time! That ol' hairstyling shack of hers could USE more style!"
  • All: "Oh my stars! Ohohohoho!"

Yellow Hint Lady: "I'm very intrigued by whatever Spiralia's new business is!"

Investigating the Abductions!

  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Oh, sweeties, you know, I just can't stand it!"
  • Red Hint Lady: "What's wrong, dear?"
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "It's those strange birds flying around!"
  • Blue Hint Lady: "They give me the chills. And there are more and more of them!"
  • Red Hint Lady: "I saw one swoop down and snatch up someone at Rumbla Island."
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Really? How horrible!"
  • Red Hint Lady: "They'll come for the three of us. I'm surprised they haven't yet..."
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Me too! Look at us! We're TASTY!"
  • All: "We are, aren't we? Ohohohoho!"

(missing line when you talk for a second time)

A Mother's Worries

  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Ladies! Have you been to that new shop?"
  • Red Hint Lady: "That shop that Willma's son/daughter opened? That kid's a hard worker."
  • Blue Hint Lady: "You can get something made lickety-split, as long as you bring the materials."
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Good head on that kid. I'm really impressed."
  • Red Hint Lady: "But you know... That poor child seems kind of down lately."
  • Yellow Hint Lady: "Really? With that shop such a success? How sad..."
  • Red Hint Lady: "Maybe that's the problem. The shop's too busy for any time off to see ol' mom. That kid must miss Willma terribly. And a mother always misses her child!"
  • Blue Hint Lady: "Ah, it hurts my old heart to hear it. Such a shame. My kid can't WAIT to break away and live away from this ol' mom."
  • Red Hint Lady: "Mine too. But then we'll finally get to live our own lives!"
  • All: "Ohohohoho! Can't wait!"

(missing line when you talk for a second time)

Zokket's Schemes

Back to IDLE's Roots

Little Lost Toad

A Vision in Pink

It's Dorrie!

Letter from a Drifting Island

Stepped into a Slump

More Than One Code

Monster Mania: Level 1

The Left-Behind Toad

The Courier

The Runaway Son

Ultra-Sweet, Super-Rich Cake

Guardian Spirit

Monster Mania: Level 2

Toad in the Sand

Frostbitten Toads

Fear of Glohm

A Big Debate

Gorumbla Gone Good

Glohm Gobblick

The Fossil and the Bones

Leyden's Piscine PR Plans

Separated

Technikki's Past

The Empty Nests

Missing Ring

A Dear Friend

Warms You Inside and Out

Feelings of Dread

Toads Undercover

Glohm Sharpcask

Treasure-Hunting Brothers

The Lonely Great Conductor

Dueling Geniuses

How's Bowser's Health?

Monster Mania: Level 3

Monster Mania: Level 4

Monster Mania: Level 5

Glohm Pipegunk

Cozette's Decision

Parasite Steve (yes, Porplemontage reference)

(Draft / notes for a possible Category:Parasites proposal)

Something you might not know about me is that I'm a biology major in college. (Stuff about how the name "parasite" for this category that's just about HP mechanics is confusing, also that I'm not going to use the purely accurate biological definition of parasite here, but rather what people commonly consider them to be - there's not going to be scientific accuracy in a series like this)

"Parasitic creatures in the Super Mario franchise. They often attach themselves to other creatures, typically to attack or hinder abilities. They may also use this to replenish their own health." (key words: "often" and "may". It's not even exclusively about that?)

The two subcategories, Category:Vampires and Category:Viruses are clearly more based on the biological / typical definition of "parasite" and not the gameplay one used for the main category.

Voting options:

  • Delete category
  • Rename category
  • Oppose
  • (then I also need stuff about what to do with the subcategories, maybe those can stay as their own main categories?)

Definition of "parasite" from Merriam-Webster: "an organism living in, on, or with another organism in order to obtain nutrients, grow, or multiply often in a state that directly or indirectly harms the host"; some definitions include bacteria and viruses while others don't

Even if something is called a parasite, we make the distinction between "mind control" and "brainwash" here, even if a game's script says otherwise (like Fuzzies are explicitly called "parasites" but are they really?)

BLOF on Discord: "Mosquitos aren't parasites despite them taking our blood" - latching onto someone for an attack for a few seconds is different than living on them

Also Discord stuff, calling these leeching moves

Discord doesn't think a scientific parasites category is needed (like, actual parasites not just HP suckers), don't overcomplicate by making it a voting option

"Parasites"

Vampires

Viruses

(specifically for Dr. Mario-related viruses)