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== Split Shrinker Pipe into its own article ==
== Split Shrinker Pipe into its own article ==
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The Nintendo Player's Guide for ''Super Mario 64'' consistently refers to the "Warp Pipes" in [[Tiny-Huge Island]] as Shrinker Pipes. I think that this is cause to make it into its own article, as, though it looks the same as a Warp Pipe, it has a completely different effect.
The Nintendo Player's Guide for ''Super Mario 64'' consistently refers to the "Warp Pipes" in [[Tiny-Huge Island]] as Shrinker Pipes. I think that this is cause to make it into its own article, as, though it looks the same as a Warp Pipe, it has a completely different effect.


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:I think so too. They do function differently. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 22:14, July 20, 2019 (EDT)
:I think so too. They do function differently. {{User:Obsessive Mario Fan/sig}} 22:14, July 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::I agree. Definitely should split these two. [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 21:56, June 16, 2020 (EDT)
:::I agree. Definitely should split these two. [[User:AwdryFan1997|AwdryFan1997]] ([[User talk:AwdryFan1997|talk]]) 21:56, June 16, 2020 (EDT)
Mini Pipes also appeared in SMW
Ps. I know I shouldn't reply to old comments, but...
[[Special:Contributions/115.64.13.206|115.64.13.206]] 23:44, June 12, 2023 (EDT)
:Don't worry. We just have issues with people replying to super old comments with not much information to add. {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:02, June 13, 2023 (EDT)


== Pipes are not warp pipes etc. ==
== Pipes are not warp pipes etc. ==
 
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Why in the hell does this entry (2006) exist?  Almost every game calls a green pipe a ''pipe''; the only games that use ''warp pipe'' are Mario Parties (2002+) and Super Mario Makers, and the latter only when the pipe leads somewhither.  And can we talk about the Super Mario Bros. name?  I was first confused by SMB as the manual calls the pipes ''flower-pots''!  But Mario Bros. properly calls them ''pipes'', ''water pipes'', or ''waterpipes''.
Why in the hell does this entry (2006) exist?  Almost every game calls a green pipe a ''pipe''; the only games that use ''warp pipe'' are Mario Parties (2002+) and Super Mario Makers, and the latter only when the pipe leads somewhither.  And can we talk about the Super Mario Bros. name?  I was first confused by SMB as the manual calls the pipes ''flower-pots''!  But Mario Bros. properly calls them ''pipes'', ''water pipes'', or ''waterpipes''.


Likewise Nintendo don't use a D-pad or d-pad but a (huge white plus icon, or maybe white crux quadrata)Control pad, Control Pad (in Game Boy, not GameBoy, material), or +Control Pad (in newer material), besides arrow buttons.  A D-pad sounds like a bunch of D buttons, like D1, D2, etc.  You could call the + pad the arrow pad. [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia|talk]]) 14:55, June 28, 2021 (EDT)
Likewise Nintendo don't use a D-pad or d-pad but a (huge white plus icon, or maybe white crux quadrata)Control pad, Control Pad (in Game Boy, not GameBoy, material), or +Control Pad (in newer material), besides arrow buttons.  A D-pad sounds like a bunch of D buttons, like D1, D2, etc.  You could call the + pad the arrow pad. [[User:Lysdexia|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia|talk]]) 14:55, June 28, 2021 (EDT)
:Well, this is something I've been meaning to bring up: Warp Pipes are sometimes called pipes, but regular, non-transporting pipes are never called Warp Pipes, if I'm not mistaken. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:09, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
:Additionally, ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' only attributes the name 「ワープ土管」 (Warp Pipe) to the ones in the Warp Zone, and uses 「土管」 (pipe) to refer to both decorative and traveling ones. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:53, December 14, 2021 (EST)
::If this is about splitting warp pipe from pipe then I'm going to have to oppose. Not only are they visually identical, share a name most of the time, and have only one functional difference(warping vs. not warping), someone searching for a pipe article is most likely just going to search one of the 2 terms and expect to find any pipe, not specifically the warping/non-warping ones. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 20:42, March 9, 2022 (EST)
:::The takeaway is that the wiki currently defines "Warp Pipe" incorrectly: all warp pipes are pipes, but not all pipes are warp pipes. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:09, March 10, 2022 (EST)
::::Aaaaah, this is about moving to a better name. Sorry I jumped the gun there, yea I'd agree to a move to pipe. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 18:07, March 10, 2022 (EST)


== Super Mario Run ==
== Super Mario Run ==
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== Merge [[blue pipe]] and [[yellow pipe]] here ==
== Merge [[blue pipe]] and [[yellow pipe]] here ==
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The blue "pipe" item is apparently the only pipe in ''Mario Pinball Land'', and blue pipes in the early ''Paper Mario'' games are just color variants used to distinguish the sewer shortcut pipes from the other pipes in the game. Plus, there are blue pipes in other games like ''Partners in Time'' that aren't split.
The blue "pipe" item is apparently the only pipe in ''Mario Pinball Land'', and blue pipes in the early ''Paper Mario'' games are just color variants used to distinguish the sewer shortcut pipes from the other pipes in the game. Plus, there are blue pipes in other games like ''Partners in Time'' that aren't split.


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#{{User|Hewer}} I didn't realize this was split but it makes no sense at all so per all.
#{{User|Hewer}} I didn't realize this was split but it makes no sense at all so per all.
#{{User|Swallow}} Per all
#{{User|Swallow}} Per all
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} All per.
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#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
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====Oppose====
====Oppose====


====Comments====
====Comments====
== Rename to "Pipe" ==
Shouldn't this page be renamed? "Warp Pipe" isn't used nearly as often, and most major in-game appearances that actually bother to name then simply call them "pipes". Off the top of my head, both ''Super Smash Bros. for 3DS'' and the ''Super Mario Maker'' games simply refer to them as pipes. Furthermore, not all pipes actually let you travel to other locations, so the name isn't really fitting. [[User:BubbleRevolution|BubbleRevolution]] ([[User talk:BubbleRevolution|talk]]) 13:44, January 2, 2024 (EST)
:I'm pretty sure Mario & Luigi: Dream Team is the only game I recall the "Warp Pipe" name being used, referring to the ones used to fast travel around Pi'illo Island. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:31, January 2, 2024 (EST)
::A pretty recent instance of "Warp Pipe" in official media is in [https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/mobilenews-wiggler-joins-mario-kart-tour-as-a-driver-in-the-pipe-tour/ this news article] on nintendo.com: "''Navigate an underground network of Warp Pipes and watch for Piranha Plants in new course '''Piranha Plant Pipeline'''!''"<br>Just throwing this out there. I'm all for moving the article to "Pipe", though. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:51, February 1, 2024 (EST)
:::Yeah, and this would help acknowledge the fact that the main pipes in the ''Super Mario'' franchise aren't generic, but rather a specific kind. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 18:54, February 1, 2024 (EST)
::::I agree with '''BubbleRevolution'''. Why call every pipe a "Warp Pipe" if only some pipes actually ''warp'' you? {{User:Mariofan28047/sig}} 16:08, April 4, 2024 (EDT)
I forgot when I left my previous comment that Paper Mario: The Origami King also uses the name "Warp Pipe", though primarily for the Musee Champignon pipes which role is similar to the Dream Team Warp Pipes. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 17:29, April 4, 2024 (EDT)
Wouldn't it be a better idea to split Pipe from Warp Pipe instead, then? Not all pipes do let you warp, but the term "Warp Pipe" has still been in use as late as last year, so... {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:56, April 14, 2024 (EDT)
:As I've mentioned [[#Pipes are not warp pipes etc.|here]], it seems that "Warp Pipe" was supposed to be "Warp Zone" Pipes or ones that travel great distances. I don't know if they refer to any (usually under/above-ground) transporting pipe. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:38, April 15, 2024 (EDT)
Well in ''[[Super Mario Party Jamboree]]'' the item's name is pipe, and as '''BubbleRevolution''' said the term warp pipe isn't used as much. I literally can't recall a single time anyone used warp pipe and not pipe. So yeah the article should be renamed. [[User:Sentient freedom|Sentient freedom]] ([[User talk:Sentient freedom|talk]]) 05:23, September 24, 2024 (EDT)
Yes, rename. The term warp pipe hasn't gotten use in a LONG time. [[User:WaluigiMan10000]] ([[User talk:WaluigiMan10000|talk]]) 1:19, Oct 19, 2024 (EDT)
:"Warp Pipe" popped up in the direct for Super Nintendo World. It's not "gone" per se. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 20:18, November 1, 2024 (EDT)

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Is having a redirect page called "transport tube" really necessary??? --Bentendo 14:54, 30 August 2007 (EDT)

i think not,

Master Crash

No, not really...Mario riding YoshiXzelionETC

Its called that in the comics. -- Sir Grodus

If it's called by as such in the comics, it should be a redirect. JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 14:02, July 28, 2019 (EDT)

Mini Warp Pipes[edit]

Do we really have to have a link to "mini warp pipes"? It just redirects to the same page. Toad's sprite in Excitebike: Bun Bun Mario Battle wow it's Kiryu (TC)

Nope, circular links are indeed useless; good spottting! For future reference, if something's introduced in a game that goes by a different name but is essentially the same, that new name can just be bolded (there's actually a couple examples on this page, now including Mini Warp Pipe). However, if a seperate article does exist, just link to it and don't bold. - Walkazo 02:11, 25 January 2009 (EST)

Uh... Mini Warp Pipes was not introduced in New Super Mario Bros., it was in Super Mario World, but it wasn't possible to enter it, since Mini Mushrooms wasn't introduced yet when Super Mario World released. - Super Bluey

Mario and Luigi 3[edit]

Didn't they appear in Bowser's inside story? Dry Bones in Paper MarioCount Bonsula I need blood...Ml2 drybones.png

Capitalization[edit]

Is Warp Pipe supposed to be capitalized or not? It seems that it varies in the article.

Split Shrinker Pipe into its own article[edit]

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passed 10-0
The Nintendo Player's Guide for Super Mario 64 consistently refers to the "Warp Pipes" in Tiny-Huge Island as Shrinker Pipes. I think that this is cause to make it into its own article, as, though it looks the same as a Warp Pipe, it has a completely different effect.

Proposer: 1337star (talk)
Deadline: November 6, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support[edit]

  1. 1337star (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Vommack (talk) Different name, different function. It fits the criteria for a new page.
  3. MarioManiac164 (talk) Magic Doors are different from doors, and these are pretty much the same thing as them in the form as pipes, so this should be split, too.
  4. YoshiKong (talk) Per proposal.
  5. MimiTheCopycat (talk) It is true that the Shrinker Pipes should have its own page. After all, regular pipes don't alter the size of a player.
  6. Walkazo (talk) - Per all, including Marshal Dan Troop in the Comments.
  7. Megadardery (talk) - Agreed. this is one world.. not two world were this pipe transport mario between 'em
  8. Luigi79643 (talk) - Per Vommack.
  9. Kelton2 (talk) - Per proposal.
  10. DKPetey99 (talk) - Per Vommack

Oppose[edit]

Comments[edit]

Technically they aren't JUST shrinking pipes. Some make you bigger as well. Shouldn't we change the name to accomodate BOTH sizes? Coooool123 (talk)

No only shrinking pipe is official. Marshal Dan Troop (talk)

True. Luigi79643 (talk) 07:32, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Super Smash Bros[edit]

In the Super Smash Bros section it only mentions the warp pipes that Mario and Luigi enter through and the ones that you can't enter in the Mushroomy Kingdom stage, but the pipes in the Mushroom Kingdom stage from the original Super Smash Bros that warp pipes worked are not mentioned. --Petertwnsnd (talk) 17:42, 21 December 2012 (EST)

Mario vs. Donkey kong??!![edit]

Where is the Mario vs. Donkey kong series... it appeared in all instalment where is the section?--

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15:52, 28 December 2012 (EST)


Mini Mario's misplaced[edit]

What does mini Mario being able to run up walls in NSMBU have to do with warp pipes? Mooguy4554 (talk) 14:51, 16 March 2013 (EDT)

I think it refers to how Triangle Blocks, from Super Mario World, were mostly used to run up Warp Pipes, though I don't see the relevance in that, too. --- ThePremiumYoshi (talk)

3ds streetpass appearance[edit]

on the 3ds, in streetpass mii park, there is a hat looking exactly like a warp pipe. it is obtained by completing a mission in find mii 2.

Hey!!![edit]

Didn't Mario enter a pipe in the e3 2015 trailer for Super Mario Maker? Marioguy (talk) 07:56, 13 July 2015 (EDT) Proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ASTsZLEPc Marioguy (talk) 22:16, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

Question regarding gallery (or lack thereof)[edit]

Is there any particular reason this doesn't have a separate gallery? These things have dozens of sprites that are inexplicably not here... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:09, 8 November 2017 (EST)

Splitting off Mini Warp Pipes[edit]

Mini Warp Pipes have appeared in 6 games now (Super Mario Bros. 3, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U, and Super Mario Maker 2). They have a different appearance (radius half the size of a normal Warp Pipe), a different functionality (something that only Mini Mario can access), and a different, probably official name. They should be split into their own article. B700465189a9 (talk) 16:18, July 20, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, they should be split. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 16:43, July 20, 2019 (EDT)

They also appear in Super Paper Mario. I agree. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:13, July 20, 2019 (EDT)
I think so too. They do function differently. --DeepFriedCabbage 22:14, July 20, 2019 (EDT)
I agree. Definitely should split these two. AwdryFan1997 (talk) 21:56, June 16, 2020 (EDT)

Mini Pipes also appeared in SMW Ps. I know I shouldn't reply to old comments, but... 115.64.13.206 23:44, June 12, 2023 (EDT)

Don't worry. We just have issues with people replying to super old comments with not much information to add. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 11:02, June 13, 2023 (EDT)

Pipes are not warp pipes etc.[edit]

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Why in the hell does this entry (2006) exist? Almost every game calls a green pipe a pipe; the only games that use warp pipe are Mario Parties (2002+) and Super Mario Makers, and the latter only when the pipe leads somewhither. And can we talk about the Super Mario Bros. name? I was first confused by SMB as the manual calls the pipes flower-pots! But Mario Bros. properly calls them pipes, water pipes, or waterpipes.

Likewise Nintendo don't use a D-pad or d-pad but a (huge white plus icon, or maybe white crux quadrata)Control pad, Control Pad (in Game Boy, not GameBoy, material), or +Control Pad (in newer material), besides arrow buttons. A D-pad sounds like a bunch of D buttons, like D1, D2, etc. You could call the + pad the arrow pad. Lysdexia (talk) 14:55, June 28, 2021 (EDT)

Well, this is something I've been meaning to bring up: Warp Pipes are sometimes called pipes, but regular, non-transporting pipes are never called Warp Pipes, if I'm not mistaken. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:09, October 18, 2021 (EDT)
Additionally, Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. only attributes the name 「ワープ土管」 (Warp Pipe) to the ones in the Warp Zone, and uses 「土管」 (pipe) to refer to both decorative and traveling ones. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:53, December 14, 2021 (EST)
If this is about splitting warp pipe from pipe then I'm going to have to oppose. Not only are they visually identical, share a name most of the time, and have only one functional difference(warping vs. not warping), someone searching for a pipe article is most likely just going to search one of the 2 terms and expect to find any pipe, not specifically the warping/non-warping ones. Somethingone (talk) 20:42, March 9, 2022 (EST)
The takeaway is that the wiki currently defines "Warp Pipe" incorrectly: all warp pipes are pipes, but not all pipes are warp pipes. LinkTheLefty (talk) 06:09, March 10, 2022 (EST)
Aaaaah, this is about moving to a better name. Sorry I jumped the gun there, yea I'd agree to a move to pipe. Somethingone (talk) 18:07, March 10, 2022 (EST)

Super Mario Run[edit]

Where is Super Mario Run information on the Warp Pipe? There is many a time a Mario Run player will see a green tube, even if it can't get you anywhere. You can place them in Kingdom Builder, there are many different types and colors of them for Kingdom Builder, certain ones will grant you acess to special courses. You touch them to acess the different modes aside from Kingdom Builder, they appear in many levels, they are one of the few elements to be featured in the how to play course. They are even featured in the Super Mario Run category. All this and no Mario Run info in the Warp Pipe article? How does that make any sense? Broque 18:43, July 22, 2021 (EDT)

Um, hello? Broque 13:47, August 16, 2021 (EDT)

Why is nobody answering? Broque 13:41, August 30, 2021 (EDT)

If you have the information about Warp Pipes in Super Mario Run, you're more than welcome to add it to its own section on the article by yourself. That's why this is a wiki, after all. It must have not been added before simply because no one thought to do so.A Strollin' Stu in Super Mario Sunshine. 0blivion 16:09, August 30, 2021 (EDT)

Merge blue pipe and yellow pipe here[edit]

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merge 10-0
The blue "pipe" item is apparently the only pipe in Mario Pinball Land, and blue pipes in the early Paper Mario games are just color variants used to distinguish the sewer shortcut pipes from the other pipes in the game. Plus, there are blue pipes in other games like Partners in Time that aren't split.

The same goes for the yellow pipes in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. The color is specifically used for pipes that lead to the Oho Ocean Seabed or Teehee Valley's underground. They have that mechanic where you have to hold up, B, and A to climb out of them, but that's it. It's just color coding to distinguish them from the "green pipes" which are used as shortcuts for fast travel between locations, much like the blue pipes in Paper Mario.

Proposer: 7feetunder (talk)
Deadline: October 10, 2021, 23:59 GMT

Support[edit]

  1. 7feetunder (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Somethingone (talk) They're just color variants, per proposal.
  3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per. I'd also like to point out that the PM blue pipe's case is really no different from the uniquely textured pipes that lead to places like Petal Meadows or Twilight Town.
  4. Archivist Toadette (talk) There's no real distinguishing features for either of those subjects for them to warrant their own articles. Per 7feetunder.
  5. Hewer (talk) I didn't realize this was split but it makes no sense at all so per all.
  6. Swallow (talk) Per all
  7. Bazooka Mario (talk) All per.
  8. RHG1951 (talk) Per all.
  9. Waluigi Time (talk) Per all.
  10. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.

Oppose[edit]

Comments[edit]

Rename to "Pipe"[edit]

Shouldn't this page be renamed? "Warp Pipe" isn't used nearly as often, and most major in-game appearances that actually bother to name then simply call them "pipes". Off the top of my head, both Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and the Super Mario Maker games simply refer to them as pipes. Furthermore, not all pipes actually let you travel to other locations, so the name isn't really fitting. BubbleRevolution (talk) 13:44, January 2, 2024 (EST)

I'm pretty sure Mario & Luigi: Dream Team is the only game I recall the "Warp Pipe" name being used, referring to the ones used to fast travel around Pi'illo Island. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 14:31, January 2, 2024 (EST)
A pretty recent instance of "Warp Pipe" in official media is in this news article on nintendo.com: "Navigate an underground network of Warp Pipes and watch for Piranha Plants in new course Piranha Plant Pipeline!"
Just throwing this out there. I'm all for moving the article to "Pipe", though. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:51, February 1, 2024 (EST)
Yeah, and this would help acknowledge the fact that the main pipes in the Super Mario franchise aren't generic, but rather a specific kind. Super Mario RPG (talk) 18:54, February 1, 2024 (EST)
I agree with BubbleRevolution. Why call every pipe a "Warp Pipe" if only some pipes actually warp you? Artwork of Blue Toad with a Bubble Baby Yoshi in New Super Mario Bros. UMariofan28047Artwork of a Wonder Flower from Super Mario Bros. Wonder 16:08, April 4, 2024 (EDT)

I forgot when I left my previous comment that Paper Mario: The Origami King also uses the name "Warp Pipe", though primarily for the Musee Champignon pipes which role is similar to the Dream Team Warp Pipes. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 17:29, April 4, 2024 (EDT)

Wouldn't it be a better idea to split Pipe from Warp Pipe instead, then? Not all pipes do let you warp, but the term "Warp Pipe" has still been in use as late as last year, so... ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 12:56, April 14, 2024 (EDT)

As I've mentioned here, it seems that "Warp Pipe" was supposed to be "Warp Zone" Pipes or ones that travel great distances. I don't know if they refer to any (usually under/above-ground) transporting pipe. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:38, April 15, 2024 (EDT)

Well in Super Mario Party Jamboree the item's name is pipe, and as BubbleRevolution said the term warp pipe isn't used as much. I literally can't recall a single time anyone used warp pipe and not pipe. So yeah the article should be renamed. Sentient freedom (talk) 05:23, September 24, 2024 (EDT)

Yes, rename. The term warp pipe hasn't gotten use in a LONG time. User:WaluigiMan10000 (talk) 1:19, Oct 19, 2024 (EDT)

"Warp Pipe" popped up in the direct for Super Nintendo World. It's not "gone" per se. Salmancer (talk) 20:18, November 1, 2024 (EDT)