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This is an informal dissection of [[:Category:Power-ups]] and its subcategories for a cleanup of these categories, possibly involving a proposal. Subcategories will be listed in parentheses after an article's name, and articles falling under both Category:Power-ups and at least one of its subcategories will have the former in strikeout to indicate that it should be removed due to the subcategories.
This is an informal dissection of [[:Category:Power-ups]] and its subcategories for a cleanup of these categories, possibly involving a proposal. Subcategories will be listed in parentheses after an article's name, and articles falling under both Category:Power-ups and at least one of its subcategories will have the former in strikeout to indicate that it should be removed due to the subcategories.


===Seems fine===
==Should be kept==
===Convential power-ups===
*[[List of power-ups]]: Not a power-up itself, but a ''list of'' power-ups (duh!) entirely from [[Genre#Platform games|platforming games]]. It's standard practice to include list articles at the top of categories, and this list had [[Talk:List of power-ups#Trimming this page|a cleanup itself]] that serves as the basis in my cleanup's criteria.
*[[List of power-ups]]: Not a power-up itself, but a ''list of'' power-ups (duh!) entirely from [[Genre#Platform games|platforming games]]. It's standard practice to include list articles at the top of categories, and this list had [[Talk:List of power-ups#Trimming this page|a cleanup itself]] that serves as the basis in my cleanup's criteria.
*[[Bee Mushroom]] ([[:Category:Animal power-ups]], [[:Category:Flight power-ups]])
*[[Bee Mushroom]] ([[:Category:Animal power-ups]], [[:Category:Flight power-ups]])
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*[[Wings (DK: Jungle Climber)]] (Category:Flight power-ups)
*[[Wings (DK: Jungle Climber)]] (Category:Flight power-ups)
*[[Wings (Super Mario 64 DS)]] (<s>Category:Power-ups</s>, Category:Flight power-ups)
*[[Wings (Super Mario 64 DS)]] (<s>Category:Power-ups</s>, Category:Flight power-ups)
*[[Wonder Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups): Some [[Wonder Effect]]s from this item simply affect the environment, though others transform the player into a (sometimes) beneficial form. I'd count it as fitting for that, but I wouldn't be opposed to removing it, either.
*[[Yoshi Star]] (Category:Invincibility power-ups)
*[[Yoshi Star]] (Category:Invincibility power-ups)
*[[Yoshi's Wings]] (<s>Category:Power-ups</s>, Category:Flight power-ups)
*[[Yoshi's Wings]] (<s>Category:Power-ups</s>, Category:Flight power-ups)


'''Verdict:''' '''Keep''', obviously.
==Could go either way==
===Convential power-ups===
These ''are'' included in the [[list of power-ups]], but have some nuances that keep me from feeling entirely comfortable about having them in both that article and Category:Power-ups.
*[[Luigi Cap]], [[Mario Cap]], and [[Wario Cap]]: While these do fit
*[[Wonder Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups): Some [[Wonder Effect]]s from this item simply affect the environment, though others transform the player into a (sometimes) beneficial form. I'd count it as fitting for that, but I wouldn't be opposed to removing it, either.


===Gives the player coins, extra lives, time, etc.===
===''Mario Party'' items===
*[[+ Clock]]
*[[Bitsize Candy]]
*[[1-Up Mushroom]]
*[[Bloway Candy]]
 
*[[Bowlo Candy]]
'''Verdict:''' '''Remove'''. These don't "power up" the user in any way.
*[[Bowser Candy]]
*[[Bowser Suit]]: The only item here that isn't a [[Candy (Mario Party 8)|Candy]] from ''[[Mario Party 8]]''.
*[[Bullet Candy]]
*[[Cashzap Candy]]
*[[Duelo Candy]]
*[[Springo Candy]]
*[[Thwomp Candy]]
*[[Vampire Candy]]
*[[Weeglee Candy]]


===Non-video game items===
===Non-video game items===
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*[[Hone]]
*[[Hone]]
*[[Hybrid power-up]]
*[[Hybrid power-up]]
*[[Power Pod]]: A power-up in its source game, ''{{iw|nwiki|Solar Striker}}'', but its sole ''Super Mario''-related appearance is in a manga.
*[[Reitō Power-up Kinoko]]
*[[Reitō Power-up Kinoko]]
*[[Super Kōra]]
*[[Super Sushi]]


'''Verdict:'''
===RPG items===
*[[Copy Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Flower (Super Mario RPG)]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Mix Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
 
===Other===
*[[Boomerang]]
*[[Meat]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)


==Should be removed==
===Affects the environment, not the player===
===Affects the environment, not the player===
*[[Binoculars (Yoshi's New Island)]]
*[[Binoculars (Yoshi's New Island)]]
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*[[Speed Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Speed Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)


'''Verdict:''' '''Remove'''. These also don't "power up" the user.
===Exclusively used by antagonistic NPCs===
Power-ups are inherently items to be used by the ''player'', not antagonistic NPCs.
*[[Megamorph Belt]]
*[[Pot of Luxeville]]: I'd like to note that [[Special:Diff/3889494/4490643|this edit]] to the article inspired this cleanup in the first place.
 
===Gives the player coins, extra lives, time, etc.===
*[[+ Clock]]
*[[1-Up Mushroom]]


===''Mario Party'' items===
===''Mario Party'' items===
*[[Bitsize Candy]]
Unlike the items listed in "Could go either way", these don't transform the user in any way and shouldn't be included, lest we include ''every'' usable board item in ''every'' ''Mario Party'' game.
*[[Bloway Candy]]
*[[Bowlo Candy]]
*[[Bowser Candy]]
*[[Bowser Suit]]: The only item here that isn't a [[Candy (Mario Party 8)|Candy]] from ''[[Mario Party 8]]''.
*[[Bullet Candy]]
*[[Cashzap Candy]]
*[[Duelo Candy]]
*[[Slowgo Candy]]
*[[Slowgo Candy]]
*[[Springo Candy]]
*[[Thrice Candy]]
*[[Thrice Candy]]
*[[Thwomp Candy]]
*[[Twice Candy]]
*[[Twice Candy]]
*[[Vampire Candy]]
*[[Weeglee Candy]]


'''Verdict:''' '''Remove'''. Though most of these items transform the user (the Slowgo, Thrice, and Twice Candies being the exceptions), they are too contextually different from conventional power-ups to really be considered the same thing as them.
===Non-video game items===
*[[Power Pod]]: A power-up in its source game, ''{{iw|nwiki|Solar Striker}}'', but its sole ''Super Mario''-related appearance is in a manga.
*[[Super Kōra]]
*[[Super Sushi]]


===Purchasable upgrade items===
===Purchasable upgrade items===
A permanent upgrade purchased from a shop is not quite the same thing as a power-up collected in a level that can wear off with damage and/or time.
*[[Courage Soda]]
*[[Courage Soda]]
*[[Endless Vibe]]
*[[Endless Vibe]]
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*[[Vibe Tea]]
*[[Vibe Tea]]
*[[Whiskered Eggplant]]: The only item here from ''[[Mario Superstar Baseball]]'' rather than ''[[Super Princess Peach]]''.
*[[Whiskered Eggplant]]: The only item here from ''[[Mario Superstar Baseball]]'' rather than ''[[Super Princess Peach]]''.
'''Verdict:''' '''Remove'''. A permanent upgrade purchased from a shop is not quite the same thing as a power-up collected in a level that can wear off with damage and/or time.
===Exclusively used by antagonistic NPCs===
*[[Megamorph Belt]]
*[[Pot of Luxeville]]: I'd like to note that [[Special:Diff/3889494/4490643|this edit]] to the article inspired this cleanup in the first place.
'''Verdict:''' '''Remove'''. Power-ups are inherently items to be used by the ''player'', not antagonistic NPCs.


===RPG items===
===RPG items===
*[[Copy Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Flower (Super Mario RPG)]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Mix Flower]] (Category:Flower power-ups)
*[[Power Punch]] (Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Power Punch]] (Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Rare Fruit (Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)]]
*[[Rare Fruit (Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition)]]
*[[Sneaky Parasol]]
*[[Sneaky Parasol]]
*[[Super Block]]
*[[Super Block]]
'''Verdict:'''


===Other===
===Other===
*[[Block Meal]]: From the RPG-platformer hybrid ''[[Super Paper Mario]]''; unlike the [[Pal Pill]], the Block Meal is not collected in the overworld, but rather is a recipe that must be used from the menu. '''Remove'''; this item definitely leans more towards the RPG aspect of ''Super Paper Mario'' rather than the platformer one.
*[[Block Meal]]: From the RPG-platformer hybrid ''[[Super Paper Mario]]''; unlike the [[Pal Pill]], the Block Meal is not collected in the overworld, but rather is a recipe that must be used from the menu. This item definitely leans more towards the RPG aspect of ''Super Paper Mario'' rather than the platformer one.
*[[Boomerang]]
*[[Frenzy (Mario Kart Tour)]] (Category:Invincibility power-ups): Not even an ''item'', but rather an effect from having three of the same item in ''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''.
*[[Frenzy (Mario Kart Tour)]] (Category:Invincibility power-ups): Not even an ''item'', but rather an effect from having three of the same item in ''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''. '''Remove'''.
*[[Luigi Cap]], [[Mario Cap]], and [[Wario Cap]]: '''Unsure, leaning keep'''.
*[[Meat]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Mushroom]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Mushroom]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Poison Mushroom]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Poison Mushroom]] (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
*[[Wings]]
*[[Wings]]

Revision as of 14:51, February 4, 2025

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Category:Power-ups (cleanup)

This is an informal dissection of Category:Power-ups and its subcategories for a cleanup of these categories, possibly involving a proposal. Subcategories will be listed in parentheses after an article's name, and articles falling under both Category:Power-ups and at least one of its subcategories will have the former in strikeout to indicate that it should be removed due to the subcategories.

Should be kept

Convential power-ups

Could go either way

Convential power-ups

These are included in the list of power-ups, but have some nuances that keep me from feeling entirely comfortable about having them in both that article and Category:Power-ups.

  • Luigi Cap, Mario Cap, and Wario Cap: While these do fit
  • Wonder Flower (Category:Flower power-ups): Some Wonder Effects from this item simply affect the environment, though others transform the player into a (sometimes) beneficial form. I'd count it as fitting for that, but I wouldn't be opposed to removing it, either.

Mario Party items

Non-video game items

RPG items

Other

Should be removed

Affects the environment, not the player

Exclusively used by antagonistic NPCs

Power-ups are inherently items to be used by the player, not antagonistic NPCs.

Gives the player coins, extra lives, time, etc.

Mario Party items

Unlike the items listed in "Could go either way", these don't transform the user in any way and shouldn't be included, lest we include every usable board item in every Mario Party game.

Non-video game items

Purchasable upgrade items

A permanent upgrade purchased from a shop is not quite the same thing as a power-up collected in a level that can wear off with damage and/or time.

RPG items

Other

  • Block Meal: From the RPG-platformer hybrid Super Paper Mario; unlike the Pal Pill, the Block Meal is not collected in the overworld, but rather is a recipe that must be used from the menu. This item definitely leans more towards the RPG aspect of Super Paper Mario rather than the platformer one.
  • Frenzy (Mario Kart Tour) (Category:Invincibility power-ups): Not even an item, but rather an effect from having three of the same item in Mario Kart Tour.
  • Mushroom (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
  • Poison Mushroom (Category:Size-changing power-ups)
  • Wings
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