MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Super Mario Land

Super Mario Land

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Super Mario Land was nominated to be a featured article at 18:14, May 21, 2021 (EST) and passed at 19:17, 17 July 2021.

When I first looked at this article, I saw it had a lot of potential. I have since added a pre-release and unused content section as well as a section for the items found in the game, in addition to other minor improvements and miscellaneous changes. I have also looked over the requirements for nominating an article to be featured, and everything seems to be an order.

• The article is well-written and the sections are detailed. I have looked over the page and found no grammatical or spelling errors.
• The references to earlier and later games are provided.
• Any information appears to belong to its appropriate section/s.
• The article is not tagged with any improvement tags, not even for more media.
• The article has a good lead, noting a majority of the basics, including characters, the gaming system, the date, the producers of the game, and more. Can be condensed to one paragraph, if necessary/requested.
• I have only found one red link on the article, for a staff member.
• Many of the images and sprites are of excellent quality.
• The article is certainly long enough to be nominated.

Support

1. The Mansion (talk) Per my reasoning above.
2. Somethingone (talk) This article seems good enough to be a featured article.
3. Ray Trace (talk) I don't see any major issues any more, good work!
4. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk) Most of the flaws seem fixed now. Good work.
5. Power Flotzo (talk) This article has been fixed up enough that it has my vote for it.
6. Scrooge200 (talk) Has been improved enough, article is now FA quality.

Comments

I think for world images, if you look in the game's gallery page there is at least one image of each level. The manga images could be replaced with one of those which best represents that world. Nightwicked Bowser 15:03, May 22, 2021 (EDT)

That sounds like a good idea. Green Star 17:56, May 22, 2021 (EDT)

Many of the issues and suggestions have been implemented or added, including this one. The world and levels section is much more visually appealing, at least to me, manga images are fully replaced with sprites, glitches section revised, reception section expanded, and an obstacles/objects section added. Since I have acquired more free time as of late, I will continue to revise this article, and add any objects or items I may have missed or forgotten. Green Star 22:07, May 31, 2021 (EDT)

Good job! But I think the world section is awkwardly organized, the worlds part blends in too much with the levels. Ray Trace^(T|C) 00:34, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Also, the reception section could be expanded a bit, I feel. ^(T|C) 01:45, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Both suggestions have been implemented, though I will still be focusing on them as well as a few other sections during this time. How are the worlds/levels sections? Is the reception section of decent length? Green Star 11:08, June 5, 2021 (EDT)

Sorry, been busy lately. Anyway, that GameStop line could use more information than just a number. What were common praise for the game? Common criticisms? Ray Trace^(T|C) 18:01, June 7, 2021 (EDT)

The worlds/levels section looks outstanding. Sometime tonight I'll go through the enemies section to make sure the sizes are consistent and the table resembles more of the others, as well as the objects and obstacles section to ensure none are missing and also for consistency. I was considering adding a characters section, but there are really only two, so I wouldn't find it necessary. Green Star 18:07, June 9, 2021 (EDT)

As a side note, I'd recommend splitting some of the double sprite images to a single sprite each, and also not enlarge the sprites (especially by amounts that are not direct multiples of the images' actual sizes; inconsistent pixel size is distracting and doesn't look good). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:54, June 9, 2021 (EDT)

I think there should be some references in the reception section, such as for the sales part. Nightwicked Bowser 19:19, June 9, 2021 (EDT)

@Archivist Toadette "The worlds and levels section doesn't need to add details on each level." Really? I don't see why it shouldn't. Giving a short summary on the levels here on the main SML page and having a link to the level article where it gives the full summary seems fine to be honest. I don't see why we wouldn't do that. Somethingone (talk) 08:05, June 15, 2021 (EDT)

I think Archivist Toadette wants it consistent with other articles of its nature like Super Mario World or Yoshi's Island. Though I think with the limited amount of levels it has, I do agree that some leeway can be given for increasing content to make up for the less amount of levels here. Ray Trace^(T|C) 17:33, June 19, 2021 (EDT)

Thus why I added the Removal of Oppose, there aren’t that many levels and the level descriptions look brief but good, so “all level descriptions are bad” is a bad reason. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk) 19:10, June 20, 2021 (EST)

We still need an admin to remove Archivist Toadette’s oppose, thus I would encourage any admin or higher rank to look at this FA nomination and the reasons I stated both in the Removal of Oppose and the Comments section to see why I think it should be removed (unless Archivist Toadette drops the “level descriptions are automatically bad” reason) despite opposing fairly strongly the article being featured AORN. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk), 19:37, June 21, 2021 (EST)

@Ray Trace You said you could help with the admin required part of Removal of Opposes in the 3D World + Bowser’s Fury nomination. Is there any way you can help pass the removal of oppose here? TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk), 15:39, June 22, 2021 (EST)

Anything else or comments? Green Star 17:57, July 1, 2021 (EDT)

@TasteTheFiresOfHelp: If you're talking about the subpage, those are not taken into account for featured status. Ray Trace^(T|C) 19:44, July 1, 2021 (EDT)

Alrighty then but I’m still not adding my support vote until this gets addressed, regardless of whether or not this passes without me. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk), 19:51, July 1, 2021 (EST)

I added some images to the subpage, is this better? Somethingone (talk) 20:12, July 1, 2021 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with the article. Please keep the subject pertaining to the Super Mario Land article, handle subpages in another area. Ray Trace^(T|C) 20:22, July 1, 2021 (EDT)

Yes, that looks better. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk), 9:16, July 2, 2021 EST

It'll be interesting whether this passes considering how narrowly it will fail if it fails, at least as of right now since the voting is 4-0 for it. It just doesn't have the 5th vote. TasteTheFiresOfHelp (talk), 9:06, July 10, 2021 EST {{User