Talk:Rocto

Rename to Octopus discussion

In SMG, a Toad refers to them as "octopuses". Should it be moved? Pseudo-dino (talk)

But there's already an article called octopus. Haven't their names been mentioned in the prima guide? -FourPaperHeroes 18:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Their names aren't in the Prima guide for SMG2, but for SMG, it refers to them as "squid". However, said Toad is the most official source. Pseudo-dino (talk)

So should they be moved to Octopus (Super Mario Galaxy)? -FourPaperHeroes 18:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

That's about right. In fact, I'll do it now. Pseudo-dino (talk)

Rename to Ota Rock discussion

I don’t think the article should be moved to “Ota Rock,” because that’s not what these things are called.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThunderWeegee (talk).

It's the only specific non-generic thing they've been called. And the generic decriptors were indeed lowercase. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:27, 21 February 2019 (EST)

Where, exactly, is 'Ota Rock' coming from in terms of sourcing? Trig - 21:01, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Parent and derivative species

This honestly seems to be the true "base" Octo, due to the fact that both of the bosses take more after it than Octoomba, and that Octoomba's name seems to indicate that it's just a weaker, Goomba-like derivative of this. Octoomba itself is certainly not a Goomba. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:50, 12 March 2018 (EDT)

If we're going off the idea of these being generically-named, I suppose that makes a bit of a difference, but the fact that the bosses are still these things makes me think that either they should just be classified as related, or this should be the parent species. It's closer named to their inspiration, anyways. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:09, 21 February 2019 (EST)

I agree. They seem like the parent species to me. --Seandwalsh (talk) 07:31, September 13, 2019 (EDT)

Kind of old, but I'd say that "OtaJack" is akin to the "kug" here: that is to say, Ota Jack would've likely had Ota Rock and Octoomba as its parent species, making Ota Rock and Octoomba sort of a degree away as relatives, if that makes sense. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:33, November 28, 2021 (EST)

I'd like to know Jack's actual behavior before assuming that. Every source I find just says "waiting to be picked up," not specifying what that means. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:32, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Move?

Should we move this page on how poorly was this handled? SMH, it could potentially affect the Jellyfish. -- FanOfYoshi 02:35, June 7, 2019 (EDT)

Also, we can't cite the encyclopedia, which is why it should be moved. -- FanOfYoshi 13:58, June 13, 2019 (EDT)

"Using a name that the Encyclopedia also happens to use, and did so after we did" is not the same as "citing the encyclopedia." That being said, it should probably be moved regardless. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:59, June 19, 2019 (EDT)

Yeah, this should be moved. That Toad calling him an "octopus" is no different than the various generic descriptive terms that SM64 uses (big bird, sea dragon, etc.). 17:13, December 9, 2019 (EST)

Support per all Superbound (talk) 11:37, August 6, 2020 (EDT)