Talk:List of Mario Party: The Top 100 minigames

Add transparency to all the logos

-- (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

I began doing it, some formats will need to be changed. -- (talk) 12:20, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

Current organization of minigames

There are several reasons I prefer my version of the page over the one Marius has proposed:

• Tables are far better presentable and organized than a gallery. Galleries are bare-minimum formatting and display information in a less ideal manner. Minigame distinctions between game entries are not as easily distinguishable.
• Tables can be sorted and organized in various ways through the sortable function, grouping minigames easily (you can group them by name, category, etc), galleries cannot be sorted at all.
• The format feature of the galleries means less information can be on it, so therefore, a huge chunk of minigame information is awkwardly sanctioned off to the bottom of the article rather than integrated.
• Information is better fit, and is more legible, since galleries center text by default.

Every other Mario Party article should actively follow suit, and follow the example of either this article, or WarioWare microgame lists, as they both are far better organized than the Mario Party ones. Ray Trace^(T|C) 18:57, January 3, 2022 (EST)

First of all to answer to your comment on your last revert Summary, as per MarioWiki:General disclaimer#The wiki contains copyrighted material the moment you submit the information to the wiki it stops being your design, further edits done by other users are a collaboration, myself included, that only build upon it.

Second, "List of Mario_Party:The Top 100 minigames" has a lot more in common with any other "List of Mario Party X minigames" than any "List of WarioWario X minigames" which in itself is a different genre of games with the most important difference in this context is that Mario Party is a multiplayer game and WarioWare is for the most part a single player game. Here you can't even categorize them the same way because the number of teams in each minigame becomes the most important aspect which is not shared with WarioWare. Third of all, if you see my contributions to the wiki you'll see that I'm the first to advocate for a good table over any other form of information organization, to the point where some may say I overdo it. And even then I can say that this table organization just isn't useful for these pages, specially for the main line Mario Party games that don't include Top 100 and Superstars. The game icon headers quarters the ability to sort all the games and you have 10 different tables that you can just watch all at once and offer nothing new from sorting. On the second design the descrption is well integrated, any additional information is already contained in the minigame's mainpage. MariusM (talk) 21:43, January 3, 2022 (EST)

The article you linked in regards to your reverted content is simply a legal disclaimer. I am still free to revert your revision as I see fit, as I believe it significantly hinders readability for readers, and page's creation also stops being yours as well. Secondly, it's generally courteous to ask people around before you do drastic overhauls to pages, especially considering that the decision I made to made this article distinct from others has been deliberate, as the way the other articles are kept I find very outdated. The current way it's organized for the minigame pages I find suboptimal, it has been unchanged ever since I decided to make it a gallery format almost 8 years ago (prior to that, it was a simple list of just names), and to me, it's skeletal in terms of organization and I should have fixed it up too, extended my work on the Top 100 articles to the others. I've asked other editors what they prefer in the Discord, most prefer my revision because it looks cleaner, better organized (because it's by series, which is communicated much more clearly than tiny images in thumbnails) and much easier to read (information for individual minigames for your revision are cluttered and way too busy, everything is too scrunched and mashed in one spot that the thumbnail accomodates, plus center text is more difficult to read than left-to-right text). Plus, you mention that the game icons impede the ability to sort whereas, gallery format is not sortable at all. There are improvements that can be made for the table, yes, but I still don't think that justifies a change to using galleries to present the information.

I don't really understand the point about WarioWare being a single player game vs Mario Party being multiplayer. They're still both minigame formats and both are categorized by genres ala types of minigames/microgames they are (Mario Party uses team players, WarioWare uses employees). They're still very similar to each other, except WarioWare microgames are much simpler and smaller in scale compared to Mario Party but in terms of organization, you can both organize them similarly and get more satisfying results.

And never once did I question your ability to create tables nor did I say that you don't like them so I don't know why you brought up your ability to advocate tables to be frank. Ray Trace^(T|C) 22:18, January 3, 2022 (EST)