Talk:Goat

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Given recent rulings on "real-world" species articles (cow, elephant, horse, dog, etc.), this page is ripe for being overhauled. I'd suggest splitting off mountain goat for the MK7 info, keeping the Thing sticker info here, and nixing the rest, as one's a generic background element, and none of these previous proposals have kept mentions of WarioWare stuff anyways. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:27, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

I was just about to make a proposal suggesting the same exact thing! ^(T|C) 18:29, 28 August 2018 (EDT)

Split Mountain Goat from this page

This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit any of the sections in the proposal. If you wish to discuss the article, do so in a new header below the proposal.

rename the page itself to "mountain goat" 2-11-0
This proposal is per mine and Doc von Schmeltwick's comments above. If you're wondering why this looks so generic, let me just clear up that this is about splitting the Mario Kart 7 stage obstacle from this page. Taxonomically speaking, mountain goats are not true goats, instead being more closely related to antelopes and gazelles. It's not like the games necessarily treat mountain goats and true goats as the same thing anyways. That said, I think we should split Mountain Goat from Goat, though I also have the option of moving the page itself and removing the information on generic goats and relocating the remaining info to their respective articles.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: September 11, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Split as proposed

1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) My preferred option.
2. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) The only consistent thing here is that they're colloquially identifiable as goats, but as mentioned, they are only related close enough to all be even-toed ungulates with horns. Also one's a racing obstacle and one's an off-kilter item.

Move the page itself to Mountain Goat and remove/relocate the information on actual goats

1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Second choice.
2. 7feetunder (talk) Per Waluigi Time.
3. Bazooka Mario (talk) I vote for this too.
4. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
5. Waluigi Time (talk) The other goats already covered by this page seem fairly generic to me, and don't need coverage.
6. Mario jc (talk) Per all.
7. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all.
8. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Yeah, we should probably do something about the Things as a whole before creating an exception.
9. rollerC (talk) Per all.
10. bwburke94 (talk) Per all. Real-life animals don't necessarily need coverage.
11. George Jones (talk) Per bwburke94.

Comments

@Waluigi Time & Mario jc: I made the change as requested.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toadette the Achiever (talk).

What do you mean by "relocate"? That seems like the same as splitting. Mario JC 23:42, 29 August 2018 (EDT)

Presumably simply the thing area of the sticker article, despite the goat being uniquely a living thing (and as such rather....distinct. I think as such they should just be split. The game says it's a statue, but it moves rather organically.....it's just weird.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2018 (EDT)

In my opinion, it wouldn’t make much sense to split the Sticker Star Thing into its own article, unless other Things had their own articles. --TheFlameChomp (talk) 08:18, 30 August 2018 (EDT)

And why shouldn't they? This one at least is necessary to continue, not all of them are. Very few, if fact. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:21, 30 August 2018 (EDT)

While this one, unlike some of the others, can be used to complete a level, this one isn’t actually necessary, as any kind of Vacuum obtainable at the time can be used instead. Deciding on whether or not to separate the Things should be a separate discussing, and not decided by this proposal. --TheFlameChomp (talk) 16:47, 30 August 2018 (EDT)

Yeah, it's better to add a proposal to the Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star) talk page than to deal with it here. In fact, the very bottom section on that page from two years ago brings up this issue. ^(T|C) 22:18, 31 August 2018 (EDT)

Names in Other Languages

In Mario Kart Tour, when dashing through them the name appears, and as this game has a lot of languages, can someone add them? (also shouldn't this be renamed to "Goat" since its the most recent/in-game name rather than taken from a manual?) --Magma. (talk) 17:43, May 21, 2020 (EDT)

Name

Shouldn't we move this page to just 'goat' since that's a more recent English name than 'mountain goat' is, and it's from a game rather than a manual? (sorry if I'm doing something wrong, I haven't used talk pages before now) Hewer (talk) 14:03, February 9, 2021 (EST)

Sure. The previous proposal was more about removing overly generic info on goats, so go ahead if that's indeed the current name. ^(T|C) 14:17, February 9, 2021 (EST)

It won't let me move the page because 'Goat' is already a redirect. Sorry if there is some obvious solution I should be aware of but I've never moved a page before so I wouldn't know. Hewer (talk|contributions) 14:24, February 9, 2021 (EST)

Tagged for deletion. ^(T|C) 14:41, February 9, 2021 (EST)