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Unable to Edit own Userspace

I tried editing my Sig only to find that:

This page has been protected from editing, because it is included in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option turned on:

• MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XVIII
• MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XVI
• MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XVIV

[etc... I won't include all the pages]

You can view and copy the source of this page:

What does it mean those pages are protected with the "cascading" option turned on? --Garlic Man (talk)

Obviously those pages shouldn't have a cascading protection. I changed it to a regular protection. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:53, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Thanks. Does cascading mean that pages included in the protected page also become protected? --Garlic Man (talk)

Yes it does. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:58, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Edit Count bug

While checking my edits through Special:EditCount, I decided to see if there was a user called "Mario". There was, and he had no edits. Yet the page said the total amount of edits was 16. Is this some kind of glitch in the server? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Weird...I checked it too, same thing happened, and I checked contributions, and there was nothing there. – Ralphfan>>Organized Chaos

It's probably because those edits were vandalism and have been removed from the affected pages' edit histories (and the vandal's Contributions) by a Sysop. These edits are still in the database, and so they still get counted, but I suspect they are somehow disassociated from the pages they were made on, and therefore, don't fit into any of the subtotals in the Special:EditCount chart. I don't know exactly how or why this happens, but I can assure you it's not a glitch or any other cause for alarm. - Walkazo 23:37, 18 February 2010 (EST)

^That's also what I suspected at first, but then looked at his block log, only to find that nothing was listed. If he made valdalism edits that were so bad for them to be deleted, you'd think he would have been blocked, but nothing is listed there, which puzzles me. Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Maybe the IP address itself was blocked. - Walkazo 18:58, 23 February 2010 (EST)

The user would of been banned first. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

I don't know if that is the case. When I added my total along with other users (how they don't mind in my experiment) the total was off, varied by how many edits a user had. For example, mine says 2136, while when I add them on a calculator, it is truly 1896. In percent wise, it would be about 12-16% in difference. So I think that there is a problem or glitch in it. Baby Mario Bloops (talk)

I found another cause for the discrepancies: when a page is deleted, the subtotals in the chart no longer register the edits, but the total at the bottom does not go down. Moving pages might also change things (it messes up Oversight's records), but I haven't tested that yet. Again, this is nothing to get worried about: it all makes perfectly logical sense. - Walkazo 22:40, 23 February 2010 (EST)

Well, I checked the block log and found a user named Mario was blocked. KS3 (talk · contribute)

The Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance

I apologise if this is in the wrong section, however I couldn't find the right article to discuss it. On the niwa section on the sidebar to the left of the wiki there is a link to the Metroid Wiki, however on the Main Hub for the niwi site the Metroid Wiki isn't mentioned there does it still belong here? Thanks, --Chickasaurus 17:07, 19 February 2010 (EST) =)

THe current situation of the MetroidWiki is complicated... However, unless indeicated otherwise, the link should be there :) --™ The 'Shroom 22:46, 19 February 2010 (EST)

Nintendo Media Summit 2010

If you guys didn't know -- Nintendo had announced that it will host a Summit to show off their new games or possibly new trailers this Wedesnday and Thursday (Feburary 24, and 25) with one from CA, and one from Europe. So if you catch any Mario related info, including possibly new info of SMG2 (so people can collaborate the differences between last year and this year for the beta pg). http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=15684 Additionally, if there are new games, please add them in the Mario & Nintendo News, or add this info as well. :o RAP... 15:41, 23 February 2010 (EST)

I found out a rumor.. Nintendo may have possibly leaked the SMG2 boxart. [1] [2] --™ The 'Shroom 15:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Utter speculation. (I don't even think it was a "leak"; it is the boxart, and it's not like Nintendo was trying to hide it or anything)Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Scrollboxes on Talk Pages

For settled Talk Page Proposals, we use {{scroll box}} so they don't clutter the talk pages. There's one problem about that, though. For example, look at Talk:Midbus: If one attempts to edit the section called "Pig" by clicking on the "edit" link next to it, one will be taken to the "Keep it the same" section which is actually included in the scrollbox above. This is because sections included in scrollboxes are not counted in the "edit" links (which end by "edit&section=x", x being a number), but are counted when an actual section is selected. It's hard to describe, but I think you'll know what I mean. Time Questions 06:48, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

Oh yeah, I remember this. I think we had the same problem when we decided to go for scroll boxes on some other pages. I'm not sure what to do, I think being able to edit the page properly is more important than it being too long though. Maybe replace the sub-headers inside the scroll boxes with <big></big> tags. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 08:47, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

Or perhaps the fake headers used in "MW:Chronology"? After all, there is no real need to edit them. --™ The 'Shroom 13:46, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

In any case, the system should be straightforward and easy to apply for every user. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:15, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

I agree. I tried to use it, and is not as simple as I thought. --™ The 'Shroom 16:52, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

Using <big></big> seems the best option to me, it's relatively easy and we can keep the scrollboxes. Time Questions 07:08, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

Using the fake headers will also be easy if we put a note in the TPP rules to replace all the "==="s with <div id=fh3 class=mw-headline> and </div> - anyone can cut-and-paste. The fake headers look exactly the same as real headers, whereas just making things big wouldn't mimic the look as well; or at least, I'm assuming it doesn't look the same, since <big></big> doesn't actually make the type bigger on my computer... - Walkazo 23:13, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

Do they really have to look the same? I don't know, I just think that copying and pasting that coding is still too intricate. Time Questions 06:49, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

(Un)Used images

If one goes to Special:Unusedimages, he can see that there are some "unused" Bowser images. And I use unused loosely, because all those Bowser images are actually used, but for some reason, are listed as unused images. Anybody know how come this happens? Hello, I'm Time Turner.

That is really odd. The unused images page is known to glitch quite often. Maybe we should add some kind of template notice to the images in question so that they are not deleted by accident. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 09:20, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

I agree with Cobold. We should have a template to protect those files from deletion. Fawfulfury65

Made one, {{not-unused}}. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 10:10, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

Thank you. KS3 (talk)

Walkazo (talk) told me one day that the glitch may come from a syntax error in the image, I mean, if the link has an space between "image" and the filename - [[Image: Example.JPG]], this will cause that this (as well as other images in the article) don't be registered as used. ¢oincoll€ctor

But that's not the case in the Bowser article. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:39, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

There's probably some sort of coding snafu buried in the article that's responsible for the glitches. It's a huge page, so I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least one little mistake hiding in there... - Walkazo 20:27, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

WarioWiki

Shouldn't the WarioWiki be merged into the MarioWiki now because of this??? If yes, then why do we still have this [wario.wikia.com] ??? KS3 (talk)

WE don't have that at all. We are completely independent from Wikia. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 19:52, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

NIWA

Is SMW's relationship with NIWA detailed in any article on the wiki? Culex 14:41, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Not yet :/ --™ The 'Shroom 19:26, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

The other wikis have articles about the alliance. While we should probably not have a mainspace article about it, perhaps we can create a MarioWiki article or add on to another MarioWiki article. A prominent link to or mention of the main NIWA site might be a good idea as well. Culex 20:41, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Seems like a good idea. I will bring it up to the otehr admins :) --™ The 'Shroom 15:49, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Just for reference, ZeldaWiki.org has an article about NIWA in their Template:Zw, while Bulbapedia has its own NIWA article and even features a NIWA box linking to the other wikis on their Main Page. Culex 16:14, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

And they have a page for the MW :O --™ The 'Shroom 16:25, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Where??? KS3 (talk · contribute)

Template:Bp :) --™ The 'Shroom 17:47, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Shouldn't we create a page for it in here?? KS3 (talk · contribute) 16:50, 12 April 2010 (CST)

We are discussing it with the admins. --™ The 'Shroom 20:03, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Prob.

I was just trying to edit Talk:Birdo, when this came up. It seems to only happen when I try to edit the last section on the page. Then I clicked on the [edit] icon in the section above. I was taken to the section below it instead. Is this just some weird glitch or something? I don't even see any scrollboxes or anything on the page. Fawfulfury65

It's fixed. Don't ask me why, but the glitch was caused by a sig that was put right on the same line as a header. Time Questions 18:39, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Image overuse?

I've noticed that, especially with characters, images are used as often as possible, regardless of their relevancy. I think that there should be something done to edit this down. Images should only be used if they are addressing something in the article's contents. To use Bowser as an example, we see a section on his common sense accompanied by Bowser in front of gold, with a caption reading that he is typically lacking in common sense. What does Bowser having money and roaring have to do with his common sense? Personally, I would think that someone who is that rich would be much more likely to have common sense in abundance. Also, I've found that several images are used multiple times in the article. I understand that the Mario Wiki does not follow the same rules that Wikipedia must follow, but restraint never hurt anyone. - NARCE 17:17, 13 April 2010 (EDT)

MarioWiki: Community

Shouldn't the "More wiki projects..." link in the Community section link to the MarioWiki: Maintenance page? Culex 00:02, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

Sig Prob

~~~~ always put us in EDT format, but I live in the Central Standard Time section. Since we switched to GMT, we should put the 4 tildes in GMT. KS3 (talk · contribute) 18:26, 21 April 2010 (EDT). See, I typed 4 tildes and it turned out to be EDT.

I, too, have a problem with my signature. I randomly went to edit it, and I was unable to because it was included in 'Shroom articles with cascading protection. I would like to request that cascading be turned off for the following pages to avoid future problems: MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XIII, MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/XI, MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XIV, and MarioWiki:The 'Shroom/Single/Issue XV. Thank you. BLOC PARTIER. 22:42, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

@KS3: I have no idea how to do so, I think only Steve can. @BP: Whooops, sorry. I thought I had already removed the cascading thing, but apparently I didn't. I will remove it now. --™ The 'Shroom 10:56, 24 April 2010 (EDT)

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