MarioWiki:Proposals
Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. This page observes the No-Signature Policy.
How To
- Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
- Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
- Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
- Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
- Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
- Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
- At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
- "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
- All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
- If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
- Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
- There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
- Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.
New Features
None at the moment.
Removals
Remove Featured Image Template From Main Page
Well, I'm am removing my other proposal and replacing it with this. Although I don't think we should get rid of the F.I. completely, I think that we should instead put it on the 'Shroom, which I would be glad to put it under my section (The Music & Artwork Team). We could still have the voting, and we could possibly link to the voting page on the sidebar, but it should go off of the Main Page (it will reduce loading time as well as get rid of some of the clutter on the Main Page). A link to what the page would look like after can be found here.
Proposer: Super Mario Bros. (talk)
Deadline: Thursday, 13 August 2009, 17:00
Remove Template
- Super Mario Bros. (talk) Per my reasons above, as well as the second sentence of Time Q's first comment below.
- Baby Mario Bloops (talk) Sure, I'll support Super Mario Bros.! Never really liked it.
- Jdrowlands (talk) Per SMB.
- DoctorWho 1995 (talk) I think the featured picture will suit it just right in the shroom. Much better than in the main page, anyway.
Keep Template
- If we take the featured Image off the Main Page it will look very boring and I like having it on the main page SO KEEP IT! GalacticPetey (talk)
- Lu-igi board (talk) per all. also, who keeps removing my vote!?
- Lewa159 (talk) Other professinal wiki's have a Featured Image, and it really brightens up the Main Page
- Jardim (talk) I love the Featured Image. Such artistic wonders... It always makes me feel proud of being a Mario fan.
- Koopalmier (talk) Per Jardim.
- Bleh (talk) Having information and Mario related subjects actually tells newcomers that we are a Mario Wiki. It also shows them the best of what this Wiki has to offer. By doing that, it gives a good first impression, as well. And as we have already scrapped the quote of the day, we don't exactly want the main page to be that bare, do we?
Comments
I'm not sure. On the one hand, unlike the Featured Articles, what we're featuring here is NOT an achievement of our wiki and our editors, but rather of Nintendo, or whoever made the images. So the FIs are a bit pointless. On the other hand, I think they do make the main page more attractive, and we shouldn't undervalue that. They could attract new editors. If we wanted to clean the main page of all things that are not directly useful for the wiki, not much would be left. So I'd say, before removing the FIs, rather get rid of the Poll and Tournament thingies. Time Q (talk)
per Tucayo. the whole consept of the FI would need to change. You can't have a monthly FI that would kill it! Lu-igi board 16:59, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
A couple of responses. Time Q: The Tournament template can't be ridden of (it has not been a month, so no one is allowed to make a proposal to delete it). Perhaps it can be moved to the Pipe Plaza (or the 'Shroom, whichever one). Tucayo: What do you mean? Lu-igi board: When did I ever say there would only be one FI put on there? If there are four from each time the 'Shroom is released, then 4 can go on there. I could run the section, but the users can still vote. I would post them up there on the 'Shroom (in my section), and I'd still mark the images with the FI Template that I made. Super Mario Bros. (talk)
- I meant what you said to Lu-igi Board :) Tucayo (talk)
- Oh, okay. :) Super Mario Bros. (talk)
Ok, do any of the oppose votes even state a good reason? All they look like to me is 2 users saying that they like the template and it should stay for that reason. They don't mention any reasons of how keeping it will benefit the wiki. I think they should be removed. Anybody agree? Super Mario Bros. (talk)
- Tough one. I'm not sure about some of the votes. I think GalacticPetey (and thusly Lu-igi board, who "pers all") has a valid reason: "The Main Page will look boring." He states why taking it off the main page would be bad for the wiki in his opinion, and that's ok. Egg Yoshi's reason seems to be: "Another thing has just been taken off the main page." I don't think that's valid. SMB, you say "per my reasons above", but there are no reasons. BMB just says "I never really liked it." Well, it's his opinion. But is it a valid reason? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't say so. Wayoshi's reason is not valid. By taking FIs off the main page, we wouldn't feature images other than artwork and box art either, so... Time Q (talk)
- It's not up to them to make the super convincing point for it to stay; it's up to you to make the point that it should go. You give the reason that you want it in your 'Shroom section, and that's it. The "loading issue" is ridiculous--there's got to be a balance between acceptable content and how quickly the page loads. If all we cared about was load times the main page would simply say "Wiki Hi." The quote thing made a big difference because the wiki was having to do work to pull up a quote; remember this is just one image we're talking about here. Porplemontage (talk)
- Ok, I also added another reason, read it carefully, it is only a couple of more words added on. Also, that can make my vote valid, as well as BMB's, as he said "Sure, I'll support Super Mario Bros.!", which I think means that he is in agreement with me. Now that I look at it, GalacticPetey's (and Lu-igi board's, who voted after I put my comment) vote are valid, and I agree that Wayoshi's and Egg Yoshi's vote are not valid, and that they should be removed. Super Mario Bros. (talk)
Why don't we have an 'image of the day' thing a bit like Random Quote? Jdrowlands (talk)
wunt work. alot of images are boring/blury. No one wants to see rubbish images on the front page. Lu-igi board 04:05, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
If we do move the FI to the Shroom, wouldn't that mean just moving the extra loading time to it? I daresay that the Shroom has enough content already, without it having to bear an extra template. I think things are fine the way they are. Some of the comments above may be invalid, but they count as a vote overall. If the users returned to this and posted a valid reason, then maybe we can actually debate on this issue, rather than talking about invalid votes and invalid reasons. After all, isn't the Proposal page for talking about proposals, not just the additional nuggets of information that come with it? But if that's the way this Wiki is run, then that's fine by me.
Splits & Merges
None at the moment.
Changes
No proposals at the moment
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.
