Talk:Pre-release and unused content
I think we add sources these beta elementsKnife (talk)
Good news everyone, I found a site with tons of images of Mario Beta Elements, among others. -- Sir Grodus
Since all the images on the page seem to be kind of, crowded together maybe a gallery should be made for them or something. -- Sir Grodus
Super Mario RPG
I thought it's save space putting all Unused Enemies together instead of individual. Two new ones discovered, Juju and Chompweed. Chompweed was in the game, but as an obsticle and the game data shows it was going to be a enemy you fight.
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Well, putting them all on one image makes the image smaller on the page Mr. Guy the Guy
Talk!
That's where clicking on it works, I got some real good finds in it.
I recently discovered a Battle Stage not used in the game, but in the data.
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Super Mario Sunshine
Is there really a different human girl or is someone getting Peach confused? If there is a girl, could someone please provide a picture or a link?--
Aipom 
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There was a link to a video once. Someone removed it? Anyway it's not Peach. Paper Jorge
Is there any chance you could find it for me? I'm curious about what she looked like or if she was doing anything important.-- Aipom --
Nothing important she was just looking at Mario. But it's a video, so you need a good computer to see it. Paper Jorge
No one removed it. It's still there. Click where it says "Source". Paper Jorge
Wow! That was very missable! Thank you.-- Aipom --
You're welcome :p. Paper Jorge
Donkey Kong Beta Elements
Inspired by this page I decided to create a Donkey Kong Beta Elements page, check it out if you want[1]... and yes this is a small cry for attention. -- Sir Grodus
??? and the Laser Suit
According to the Super Mario World section of the article, there's a hidden level in Donut Plains called "???" and with it comes an item known as the "Laser Suit". It isn't that I don't believe that or anything, but its source is a broken link (probably just a mistake). It also sounds more like a game secret than a Beta Element, but I suppose I don't know exactly what the article means by "hidden level"... I suppose it could be a beta/test level featuring an unused item... I sort of want to know if it's legit, and, if so, get a good link to the source. --YellowYoshi398 21:54, 19 January 2007 (EST)
- Well, it's definately not a secret in the final version of the game. I was wondering about this too. It seems pretty out there. -- Son of Suns
- fake --Galvanic 08:06, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Beta Delfino pictures
I found tons of pictures of "Beta Delfino" but I can't add them. (Don't know why). Google Super mario beta images to find them. Guy who is NOT signing his comment on purpose. 14:47, 16 February 2007 (EST)
I see you got bailed, Max.. Why can't you upload them? 
3D, th3 pic m4st3r!
Don't know. always says the text, not the pic.
Click the red text. 3D, SIGN COMMENTS!!!!!
OK, I'll try... Maxlover2 20:36, 19 February 2007 (EST) Ha! I signed!
This is a page where citing sources is VERY important..Mada Mada Dane
Is the flying screenshot actually beta?
I know for a fact that in multiplayer, everybody can fly. Klaus Kratchet
For which game?-- Aipom --
Whoops! Super Mario 64 DS. Klaus Kratchet
not like that. Max2 read the talk.
That picture is more like a promotional screenshot rather than a beta one. I would still consider it beta though. Confused
P.S. I've played Mario Circuit in MKDS (w/ Action Replay) It also has more Item boxes, and the Chain Chomp is gone. Max2 (talk)
Luigi's Mansion
I've heard that there are a ton of Beta things... but can't find a reliable source. Anyone know of one? I want to make a new section. Max2 (talk)
Search Luigi's Mansion Beta on Youtube.Knife (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2007 (EDT)
Ok... not exactly what you'd call "reliable" :P but OK. Max2 (talk)
Fix Super Mario World!
MINIMARIOLOVER10: Some guy made a link for the Lakitu and blue bird on the overworld source just shows a white background with text saying "OH SNAP!.
D'oh, it was working when I added it. Gofer
MINIMARIOLOVER10: Well fix it!
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I can't fix a website I don,t own. Gofer
MINIMARIOLOVER10: I meant try to find another site that has this. That or get rid of the source before people like me begin thinking it was a prank.
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'Kay, found it. Gofer
The Yoshi Shroom
Judging by a third sprite of the Yoshi Mushroom, I think it was going to be used as a parachute making falls alot slower. PP (walkazo's brother)
The Ladder Pixl
It seems to me like the Ladder Pixl might be a beta version of Carrie. After all, it does slightly resemble a platform and has Carrie's wings. While I know it isn't be possible to obtain Carrie at that time, Tippi is also in that same screenshot despite that she should be kidnapped. --Akruru
Idea
why miamoto don't use the unnameds kongs on DK Bongo Blast a rumor of DK Barrel Blast
Look in some games.
There could be beta elements just hidden around out of reach. Like the train set in Toy Time Galaxy.
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I fixed the Glad and Calm Goomba Part.
Normal Enemies don't have HP in the game.
Glad Goombas would probably move around and bounced (or dancing as the glossary says about most Glad Enemies)
Calm Goombas would just sleep, until Princess Peach gets near them and act like a normal Goomba afterwards.
Mewtwo
Can anybody source the Mewtwo in original SSB romour? --HyperToad 14:07, 7 December 2007 (EST)
Mario Galaxy Note
I saw in a pre-release demo video for Galaxy that there was a hidden Life Mushroom at the beginning of Honeyhive Galaxy. In the game itself, though, it was a 1-Up Shroom. --Galvanic 08:09, 3 January 2008 (EST)
melee
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/1005/index.html Thats were i found the zelda locked image --Blue Koop 21:31, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
In Super Smash Bros. Brawl
When I play the Super Smash Bros. Brawl, It was Princess Peach that transformed into a trophy by Wario and Zelda and Kirby on the Warp Star. Does that count as a Beta Element? 
Could someone please put in that DK's symbol for Brawl was originally going to be different?
http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl/Archive_2#Change_the_DK_symbol.21
Sources
Does anyone know souces for all of the information, besides just the ones shown? Some of the facts don't have any sources, and you never know what's spam, so I think we should find more sources. Does that seem good? -DonPianta
Paper Mario
Um... http://themushroomkingdom.net/pm_pre.shtml
I found some more beta screenshots of Paper Mario Superjustin 17:20, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
Beta Items in Paper Mario
Um... I'm working on an article about beta items and key items, which is here until I'm done. But it's sorta long, so I don't know whether to put it here or to give it a new article. Opinions? - 2257(Talk) 21:34, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Fix Super Mario World!
It's there, but can only be seen when editing the page <_> KingMario (talk) 9 June 2008 05:52 (GMT +01)
Fix this page !
Someone should put the games on this page in order in order. 
Bob-omb buddy
- Instead of whining that something isn't right, why don't you fix it yourself? There's a reason for why the wiki can be edited by anyone -_-. --Blitzwing 07:23, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Music
Where it is said that a beta piece of music is probably a boss theme, the likelihood is that, in actuallity, is is a beta 'File Select Screen' theme. The name for the file in-game is 'sys_mmc1_32K'. The 'sys' denotes a pre-game sequence, such as Title Music, or the prologue, and I'm guessing the 'mmc' stands for memory card.
Has anyone solid evidence that the music is a beta boss theme?
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Nope, not as far as I know. Anyway, plz sign comments with ~~~~.GreenKoopa - Comments or questions?
error
as a matter of fact, donkey kong is playable on mario and sonic at the olympics --
15:38, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
uh...no. #Yoshitheawesome
BETA PARTNER?
can anyone tell me how to get this beta partner in paper mario the thousand year door? User:Mario rex33
- I'd be willing to bet that no one really knows, since it isn't sourced and User:BLiZZ, who added it here [2] is inactive. Also, that was his/her only edit. [3] Furthermore, Google isn't giving me any results. I'm thinking this is fake, so I'm going to remove it ... Incidentally, there was a Beta Partner in the first Paper Mario. - 2257(Talk) 17:47, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Realy? add the info to the article(Paper Mario). -Nerdy Guy
- It's already there. O_o It's only Goombaria though, not a new character. - 2257(Talk) 15:06, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, I didn't know that's what you ment. -Nerdy Guy
64 Beta
I found this video of many Super Mario 64 Beta elements [[4]] Should we take note of the differences in the video? -Nerdy Guy
- Go nuts, but be careful of Toad's Tool 64 users making fakes. (The first of those videos is an obvious fake, #4 and #5 also look pretty dodgy to me.) - 2257(Talk) 20:27, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
Debug Rooms of PM
Could someone who has the info please add how to access the rooms? I assume it's only possible by hacking, but I don't actually know, and I don't want to add unsourced info. Thanks! .
Super Mario Galaxy Beta Models
If you have any questions/issues about it, ask me here.
The Super Mario Sunshine model I found is exactly the same model in Super Mario Sunshine. The model in Super Mario Sunshine also has the tropical shirt, and it is removed from the model in-game- the shirt is not separate. Also in Super Mario Sunshine, FLUDD is separate from Mario in the models. And the Geniehand's blue color and yellow band is exactly the same as the Disney's Aladdin genie, and the name "Geniehand" is just common sense.
Girrrtacos
Is This Beta?
File:Lmbetathing.jpg -Nerdy Guy
And these? -Nerdy Guy (Again)
Super Mario 64 Almost completely incorrect
While I'd like to say some of this is true, 80% is wrong, wrong, wrong. Now I'm no expert, so I need sources to back up these claims. Especially for the Luigi and the FX chip thing; those are really sketchy and probably incorrect. Notes:
textures with lava outside the castle instead of water; Never heard this one. Proof? two text-circles; Wtf does this mean? a leaf; leaves come off of trees, doofus! strange stars and moons symbols; these are found in the TTM slide... loads of unused wall and floor textures; more proof please? a strange unused palm tree; this one is used in SSL. I can't believe people are this stupid. And if it's different, pictures of TT64. an scary looking door with a bat alá Bowser; it has a jolly roger (skull and crossbones) on it. ;P and a beta tree; They already said this. Pictures? Quate 21:12, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
- I've removed that. FINALLY. Also, the FX Chip and Luigi things IS correct. KingMario 16:13, 29 October 2008 (EDT)KingMario (talk)
SM64 DS Beta.
I found a beta element in Super Mario 64 DS, but I want to see what others think before I add it. When using my AR, I put in a code that makes all Goombas into Koopas. I went into Bob-omb battlefield, and some of the Koopas were red! They acted like the green ones when I first saw them, walking normally until you get close, but when I attcked on, instead of running franticly trying to find it's shell, it just kept on walking like normal until I got close. Also, you can't ride the red shell, if you dump on them or attack them, they roll in the direction you hit them in, killing anything in their path until they hit a wall.--Kirbychu 15:20, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
What code is that? - 2257(Talk) 19:35, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
- It must be something that Nintendo forgot to remove, or coulsnt remove. So I would say add it. uper-Yoshi
Super mario sunshine test level
What banana-like creature? None of the youtube videos showed it. Sure they showed something that looked like a soccer ball and could be kicked around, but I couldn't see anything moving other than some piantas and a yoshi egg with thought bubble.--YourBuddyBill 21:03, 25 November 2008 (EST)
Diddy Kong Pilot
Should we move the Diddy Kong Pilot section infromation to it's page, because the game was canceled and never released. So basicly, it's redunent to have info on a cancelled game on the Beta Elements page. Plus we have all the info we have on this page, on the Diddy Kong Pilot page, plus a screenshot of K. Rool we don't have on the Beta Elements page. This will also make room for futre games once they get relesed. 
Nerdy Guy (Let's do it!!! Please?)
Super Mario Advanced 2 to...4? O_O
I saw who someone changed the title of the section to "Super Mario Advance 4", I changed it again ;) 
D e i J i ~ Is a Mario addict
- No, it was correct before. Would you really be surprised to find SMW graphics in an SMW remake? - 2257(Talk) 14:04, 2 January 2009 (EST)
DK64 Glitch Reveals Beta Room?
Everybody pretty much knows how the under island glitch in DK64 leads to being able to find a secret room, but is that room beta? I think it is, because it seems unfinished because you can jump over the computers in the room and fall onto a "black floor". Nerdy Guy (But does anyone else consider it beta?)
Galaxy Codes
What are the cheats in Super Mario Galaxy in the Purple Coins of the Deap Dark? - Lewa159
bata brawl
what do you think of this? is ir real? note that characters that arn't unlockable are missing and wario is in the wrong slot. can someone please tidy this up (cut out tv, etc) and add to article. thanks :) Lu-igi board 12:17, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
PM: TTYD Beta Item Shop label reappearance
The beta labels for item shops in TTYD are the same as the final ones in Super Paper Mario, so I edited that in. Ninja Mario 19:10, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
How to play 0xXXXXXX levels?
--Bowser the Shredder 11:55, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
Meaning the Super Mario World levels? - 2257(Talk) 09:45, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
Yes. --Bowser the Shredder 07:29, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
Beta Mario Kart Wii Items
http://www.spriters-resource.com/other_systems/mkwii/sheet/23542 I think I just found some items from the prototype MKWii. Superjustin 19:06, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
- Very strange. Someone should should also check this out.
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I also found this: http://www.spriters-resource.com/other_systems/mkwii/sheet/23874 http://www.spriters-resource.com/other_systems/mkwii/sheet/23541 These were all made by Girrrtacos, and since he's a member of the wiki, i think he's the one we should ask about these, but they look all like beta stuff+ actual stuff combined (since are rips) MasterBlaster3000
- In fact, the "beta items" you're considering (fireballs, wiggler and, possibly, chain chomp) are found in the game, although they appear only in a game mode, the tournaments (or hacking). Girrrtacos has added other characters on such sheet from other games.
Beta Riverside Station Song
That first unused Thousand Year Door song, when its file name is translated, it says something like "train station". This could be a beta song for Riverside Station. Someone else should look into this
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Onestop (talk).
- Indeed. The filename is "stg eki1 32k.stm", and 駅 eki means station. Riverside station's indoor areas are referred to with "eki" by the game. Outdoor areas get "hom" instead. The final riverside station theme is called "stg hom1 32k.stm". So, I'd guess that the music was intended to change to this when you moved indoors. ...I'm glad they didn't go with this music, it really doesn't fit.
- Incidentally, the other unused music is "sys mmc1 32k.dsp", which I'd guess stands for "Memory Card. - 2257(Talk) 17:32, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
Very slow...
On my PC the scrolling slow down. Propably because these all PM:TTYD beta things.
Can somebody split this?
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Beta Super Mario World
This very large glitchy bush depends of type of level... (it's still a background but it's look other way)
I decided to list all of these effects (also - ignore these 1/2/3, this is because of SMW programming to make more objects):
- Grassland: very glitchy bush
- Castle 1: the middle of the Stone Block
- Lineguide/Mushrooms: the background from lineguide fragment
- Undergrounds: really glitchy background (this because it's use block reserved to "Castle 2", which isn't look good with Undergrounds)
- Switch Palace: ???, this look with sense, even the blocks used by this background are unused. This really looks like BETA. It looks like net. It's depends of background color setting. (most of these "backgrounds" use foreground or shared colors).
- Ghost House 1: Yes... it's background with sense... but the graphics of it are used... looks best with black backdrop. Maybe it has to be used in falling Sunken Ghost Ship because it look. But this falling part uses Castle graphics... strange... (it's sense because SMW vertical background bug). Wait... in the background levels take two screens... maybe it's use of this...
- Castle 2: Fragments of canvasses
- Forest: It's only bush fragment. Bushes looks glitchy in forest tileset, even through they can be inserted...
- Ghost House 2: Tile used by this isn't meant to be used by foreground/background, but by sprites.
Era64 09:55, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
false characters
It said marth, mewtwo, ash ketchem, diddy kong, gooe (sic), james bond, mr. saturn, mew, ganondorf, wario, toad, banjo and kazooie, and sukapon were supposed to be in super smash bros. I removed them. Was I wrong? Plasma12 00:50, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
I am Zero! What the hell are you even talking about!? Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)
The James Bond franchise isn't even property of Nintendo, so you're right, unless it had references from a reliable source. --YosharioFile:Yoshi wearing mario's hat.jpg
I am Zero! Ok, I know what your'e talking. Who the hell put all those stupid and random characters in the beta elements!? Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)
