MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
   • Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
   • Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
   • Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
6. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
7. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
8. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
9. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
10. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
12. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
13. Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
14. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
15. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 03:07, 9 September 2024 (EDT)

New Features

Link to Userpedia in "community"

In the community section of the sidebar on the left side of the screen, there are links to the Chat and Forum. However, there is no link to Userpedia. Although it is on a separate site (Adriels), it is an integral part of the Wiki community. Adding it to the sidebar would attract lots of visitors to Userpedia.

Proposer: Ralphfan (talk)
Deadline: 12 November 2009, 17:00

Link to Userpedia in "Community"

1. Ralphfan (talk) - Per above.
2. GreenYosho (talk) - I totally agree. Userpedia is an integral part of the Wiki, amd despite 2 moves and 1 server failure, it's still going strong.
3. Peachycakes 3.14 (talk) Saying Userpedia is not affiliated with the Mariowiki is one of the most profoundly ignorant statements I have ever heard. I don't see how you can say that with a straight face.
4. Glitchman (talk) Almost all users here are on Userpedia also, so why not have a link.
5. Egg Yoshi (talk) Userpedia is definaterly affiliated with the wiki so I think a link would be very useful
6. Pie Shroom (talk) Per NG below.

Don't Link to Userpedia in "Community"

1. Uniju :D (talk) - Userpedia is not and should not be officially affiliated with the MarioWiki.
2. Super Mario Bros. (talk) Although I would love to see more active UP contributors, I have to concur with Uniju. It is not an official affiliate of the MarioWiki, but the IRC and Forums are. Unless Porplemontage officially affiliates with Userpedia, my vote will stay the same.
3. LeftyGreenMario (talk) I don't think Userpedia should be affiliated with MarioWiki unless it's approved or something like that. (P.S. Keep titles non-biased)
4. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) As much I like this proposal, I have to say no. This site isn't and wouldn't be officially affiliated with Userpedia any time soon.
5. Marioguy1 (talk) - Make UP work for it like all the other affiliates did! No special treatment just because they mention us.
6. userpedia is seperate to us! Lu-igi board 13:13, 6 November 2009 (EST)
7. Yoshario (talk) – Per Uni.
8. Marwikedor (talk)– They are not and should not be affiliated.
9. Time Q (talk): Per all.
10. Gamefreak75 (talk) PEOPLE! Don't you understand, that it has no affiliation with Mariowiki at all. It's like saying: "How about we link KirbyWiki and the GunsWiki. They're both wikis so why not." Unfortunatey, it would be more convenient to link Userpedia to MarioWiki, but per all.
11. Panchito: Per all.
12. FD09: Per everyone.
13. Stooben Rooben (talk) - This is definitely not a very good idea. Userpedia is not an official MarioWiki affiliate; it is closely related to it, but unless Steve says it can be an official affiliate, no. And even then, Userpedia would just need a button in the affiliates template on the Main Page.
14. 4DJONG (talk) Userpedia wasn't and isn't a Mario Wiki affiliate and Steve didn't say anything about affiliating with Userpedia,so to summarize it all up, per all.
15. T.c.w7468 (talk) Per all.
16. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Hey! A user told me that we are a Mario-Based wiki, and that all non-mario wikia places should not be on Super Mario Wiki. Userpedia, even if many users here are a part of it, should not be linked with Mario Wiki. Also, many problems would probably corrupt, so I rather not be there to see that...

Comments

Before opposing voting, I would like to state that when we had all the Userspace thing we were taking them to UP, we even announced it in the Main Page and we have a link to it in {{Userspace}}. Tucayo (talk)

I know I'm supposed to be retired and relaxing in the forums right now, but I'm a little annoyed by some of the oppose votes. Now I'm not on any side for this proposals, but I want to point out that most of these votes sound like they don't even know what Userpedia is. I just wanted to "bring this to light" so to speak:

Userpedia is a sub-wiki of ours. It was created by one of our users and though Steve didn't make it, it serves as the one of the 3 major Mario Wiki user "community areas" (the two others being chat and the forums). It's basicly a big TV station as it is a place where users show thier sprite comics and fanfic. It also hosts all the sprites users make along with pages on the users themselves. It is basicly the wiki with out the Mario articles and has a bunch of stuff made by users. It's the exact "line-up" of users we have here as everyone on UP was at one time an active Mario Wiki user (save for one or two UP-only users).

That's why I'm little peeved at the fact some people are saying things along the lines of "OMG! UP has nothing to do with us, why is this dumb proposal on here?!". I don't really care how this proposal turns out, I just wanted to try to clear up what Userpedia really is. Nerdy Guy (talk) (any argueing with me should be done on the forums since I mostly don't go on the wiki anymore)

New Affiliation

A recent project at Zelda Wiki.org has brought your wiki to our attention. Our users have been sourcing and externally linking to Wikipedia on subjects that are fully encompassed at your wiki site. We have an affiliation with Strategy Wiki to exclusively link to their guides and they have been linking Zelda related topics to our wiki. Thus far we've found this to be a healthy relationship for both wikis. We are beginning to understand the importance of affiliating with more than just Zelda specific Gaming Wikis. Since so many Mario references are in Legend of Zelda games, a Super Mario Bros. wiki is a natural choice.

I'm writing to ask if you(Super Mario Wiki editors) and your staff would accept a similar partnership. We can immediately link your wiki in all of our articles with Mario specific content such as enemies that while normally are in Mario titles, have appeared in Zelda titles. As well as our Cameos pages and SSB articles.

StrategyWiki This link has an info box with our logo and a blurb for more information. We could do pretty much the same thing to one another's wikis and link back and forth instead of linking to Wikia sites or Wikipedia. From my Zelda gaming experience I assume Mario wiki has the most to gain in this partnership. Also we are testing some complex coding for many things such as a Main Page "Did You Know?" section. We are very close to getting this to shuffle automatically and would willfully help set it up here. I read your "Did you Know" template talk page and saw that it was being done manually as well.

                                       In best interests of both wikis,
                                          Mandi & Josh (Axiomist)
                                       Administrators at Zelda Wiki.org
                                       Zelda Wiki.org Main Page

Proposer: Axiomist
Deadline: November 19

Support Affiliation with Zelda Wiki

1. Tucayo (talk) - Per Mandi and Josh

Neutral Comments

This affiliation would be beneficial to both wikis.—Mandi (T) 00:42, 13 November 2009 (EST)

This matter should be talked with Porplemontage (talk), since he is the founder of the wiki and affiliations moderator. Coincollector (talk)

We tried to email Porplemontage but after a few days we started to think he might not check emails (like most people these days :P) and assumed this would be the best way to make contact. I actually wanted him/her to hear it first, sorry if I'm going about it all wrong. Do you know if Porplemontage uses Skype or any other IM? That would be the most ideal way forward to discuss the proposition. Axiomist 01:04, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Sorry I don't know. He barely comes here, but maybe he can get time to reply your question on his talk page when he comes back. Coincollector (talk)

I left him a notice on his talk page about this proposal. - Edofenrir (talk)

Yes - I don't think that these issues should be taken up in the proposals section. Marioguy1 (talk)

I would also like to quote porplemontage himself here on Mariowiki:Links where he says Check out some of our affiliate sites! Interested in becoming an affiliate? Add your button!. It does not mention the need to make a whole proposal on affiliating yourself with the site. Marioguy1 (talk)

I received your email; sorry I didn't reply. We often get offers like this and it's gotten to the point where I've stopped responding to them. Thanks so much for the offer, but I'm not interested in this partnership of linking to each other from articles. If you'd like, you can add the Zelda Wiki as an affiliate as Marioguy1 has described. --Steve (talk) 12:03, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Thank you all for considering it, and thanks for not outright rejecting the proposal in the comments section (I worried that would happen). I don't question your judgment at all; you are running an awesome wiki here. A feat all of you should be proud of.

I'll see if I can get someone to follow suit with creating a tiny Zelda Wiki.org banner and adding it to the page Marioguy1 mentioned. I'm also going to work on getting permission from the rest of the Zelda Wiki staff to allow us to insert a new field and logo linking to this wiki into the character and enemy templates that have Mario Bros. series significance. If approved I'll seek feedback from anyone at this wiki willing to review it. I'm very convinced that independent wikis are a better place to refer our (ZW's) viewers seeking the most information on whichever article they are reading. I also believe Wikipedia gets enough viewers as is, and don't really get their fill of information specific to Goombas, Chain Chomps, Bobombs and other Mario World creations that have appeared in Zelda titles.

And finally, Thanks for leaving this up long enough for me to read and respond to. I'll understand if you need to archive it now to clean the page. Axiomist 20:24, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Removals

None at the moment.

Splits & Merges

Split Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games DS and Wii version.

This is my first proposal so I hope I did this right...

OK so I think that the Wii and DS versions for the Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games and Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games should be separated into two different articles. It seems cluttered with both versions put together and it would be easier to find the correct information if they were split. The articles can be named something like "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (DS)" or "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii)" and the same for the winter olympics M&S.

Proposer: Fawfulfury65 (talk)
Deadline: 16 November 2009, 17:00

Separate the DS and Wii versions

1. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per above.
2. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Your all looking at it wrong. They are techincally two different games, and they have many differences. Events, character stats, stoy modes, etc., I could go on for a while. I would be a lot simpler just to split them (at least the Winter one, with the greatest differences).
3. Vini64 (talk) Per Bloops.

Don't separate DS and Wii versions

1. FunkyK38 (talk) I don't think that this is a problem, personally, the cluttering up. They're both the same game, just on different systems, and if we separate these, we'll have to separate the other games like this. Personally, I really don't think this is neccesary. Sorry, FF65.
2. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! I don't see any promblem with keeping them as one article, just have a section which talks about the Wii version and another which talks about the DS version (I think that already happened). Zero signing out.
3. Stooben Rooben (talk) - Per Funky.
4. Gamefreak75 (talk) - Per all. I see no problem.
5. Yoshario (talk) – Per all.
6. T.c.w7468 (talk) Per all.
7. Glitchman (talk) Per all.
8. Ralphfan (talk) – I don't think there are enough differences between the two.
9. Walkazo (talk) - Per FunkyK38.

Comments

Is there any difference to the versions? If so - what? Marioguy1 (talk)

I want to draw some attention to the question that was just asked! - Edofenrir (talk)

Yes, there both almost different games! DS has a story mode and different events while wii has festival mode. The only thing I believe stayed exactly the same was the character cast. Of course the characters stats differ in both games too. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

In that case why not a "Story" section? Marioguy1 (talk)

What do you mean? Fawfulfury65 (talk)

I think he means make a category in the page for the story mode and/or festival mode. FunkyK38 (talk)

Yes - what Funky said (==Story==) Marioguy1 (talk)