MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
   • Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
   • Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
   • Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
6. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
7. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
8. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
9. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
10. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
12. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
13. Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
14. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
15. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 01:32, 20 November 2024 (EDT)

New Features

Alert templates for article discussion

I find it increasingly annoying when I put something on an article's talk page, and it gets ignored because nobody knows about it. I propose that we create a template similar to the one that alerts you of your new messages, but alerts you of new material on the article's discussion page. Maybe it could say something like: "there are new messages pertaining to this article".

Proposer:Electrobomber (talk)
Deadline: September 19, 2009, 20:00

Support

1. Electrobomber (talk) Per above.
2. FunkyK38 (talk) I think it's a good idea. Half these articles need information, but leaving a note on the talk page is about as good as doing nothing.
3. GalacticPetey (talk) This happens to me all the Time! per above also while we are on the subject of Alert boxes I say we get rid of fake new messages boxes the are so bleeding annoying!
4. Dry Luigi (talk) I definitely agree because people don't generally look at the article's talk page.

Oppose

1. Marioguy1 (talk) - So you're proposing that every single time a talk page is changed every single user gets a giant yellow box in the middle of their screen? I don't think I want that, no.

Comments

Geez, I hope this goes better than my last one. Electrobomber (talk)

I fear this is not possible technically. (I could be wrong though.) Time Q (talk)

I think {{Talk}} is the most similar thing we have. Tucayo (talk)

GalacticPetey: We've already passed a proposal to get rid of fake new messages boxes, tell the user to get rid of the box and they will have to. Marioguy1 (talk)

So, the proposer wants us to have to see a box like the new messages boxes every single time a talk page is changed. That's thousands of users who will all see a bright yellow box leading to one talk page. What about those guys on hiatus, they will get a giant box listing thousand of articles whose talk pages have been changed and will be overwhelmed. Plus, why get the opinion's of lots of users, just talk to one user. That's what talk pages are for, tell them you wrote on the talk page and they will respond. I'm fully against this idea, Marioguy1 (talk)

Mario Kart Wii competitions

Ok, i kinda get annoyed when a new Mario Kart competetion comes out and I haven't taken part so i suggest that we say when a Mario kart comp comes out on the news template to alert everyone. Ans since Nintendo news doesn't do it anymore i thimk it would be useful to know when one comes out.

Proposer: YellowYoshi127 (talk)
Deadline: September 16, 2009, 17:00

Allow the MKWii comps

1. YellowYoshi127 (talk) Yoshi! Per Me.
2. Tucayo (talk) - Per YY127
3. Itachi 96 (talk) Per Yellow Yoshi. And why do not put back the tourney template then?
4. Marioguy1 (talk) - This was actually made official in Timmy Tim's proposal earlier but what's a second opinion going to do, per my reasoning in the proposal to put minor news into the template.
5. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! I like the idea to post it on the main page but it would be better to post it on the competition template, and it would be a great idea to also do this with SSBB. Zero signing out.
6. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) I'm always curious, so I'll be going for it
7. PT PRANA (talk) I don't even have Wi-Fi - I'm totally gutted!
8. LeftyGreenMario (talk) I don't really care about the tournaments, but why not?

Comments

Is this for competitions among the wiki community or something more official? If it's for competitions organized by the wiki, that's what the MarioWiki Community box is for. It would only make the News box if, say, Nintendo was organizing something. The English here seems pretty bad. --Porplemontage (talk) 19:38, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

I believe he's talking about these. Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)

He's proposing to put those competitions in the {{News}} template which should already happen thanks to Timmy Tim's earlier proposal. Marioguy1 (talk)

Removals

Delete Genre Articles

I have encountered a couple of articles in Category:Game Types and have thought that creating an article on each genre is redundant. Has Mario appeared in a lot of genres? Yes. But I hardly think there's a reason to create an article on each one. The only thing that would accomplish is defining what each genre is and what Mario games belong to it.

Proposer: Knife (talk)
Deadline: September 15, 2009, 17:00

Delete Articles

1. Knife (talk) – I am the proposer.
2. Marioguy1 (talk) - Maybe we could merge them all into the article "Game Types"...besides, the majority of those articles are stubs!
3. Edofenrir (talk) - Agreed! I would even say that these articles are superfluous, because all the contents actually belong to the respective game-articles. A short summary of the genre can be given at the top of every game article.
4. Itachi 96 (talk) Per all.
5. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Why need a separate article for each when we can just merge them to one article?
6. Paper Boo Guy (talk) Per all.
7. Dry Luigi (talk) Per BabyLuigiOnFire good good proposal.

Comments

Uh, why keep "Three-Dimensional Game"? --Glowsquid 06:56, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

I was just about to ask the same question :D Time Q (talk)

I noticed that it is the only one of those articles that isn't a stub Marioguy1 (talk)

Well, if this is the reason, I'm against the proposal - keeping this one article while deleting all the others is just inconsistent. I'll wait for Knife's explanation though. Time Q (talk)

When I think about it, you guys are right. I thought we should keep that since technically it wasn't a genre. I retract that statement. And yes Marioguy, I noticed them because they were stubs. Many of these stubs need to be deleted though.--Knife (talk) 14:09, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Why not just merge them together? Timmy Tim (talk)

This seems to be a good solution. Time Q (talk)

Splits & Merges

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment

Miscellaneous

Give Patrollers CheckUser

Before you oppose this, please read it. If I'm correct, we used to have an extension for CheckUser, which means (if we don't have the extension anymore) there is one for our version of MediaWiki. CheckUser would help Patrollers if they are dealing with possible sockpuppets, but they couldn't tell whether they really are. It wouldn't give them major Sysop powers such as oversight, deletion, or protecting of pages; which would give the users in the Patroller group more power/responsibilities, while retaining its place as the "in-between" of users and Sysops without it becoming redundant. I feel this would highly benefit Patrollers in the case of huge spam attacks or when suspicious users sign up.
Proposer: Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk)
Deadline: September 13^th, 2009, 15:00

Give Them CheckUser

1. Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk) My proposal. Also, see my comment below about the extension information.
2. Tucayo (talk) - I would find this very useful
3. Marioguy1 (talk) - So if it wouldn't do anything bad for the wiki then why not?
4. Timmy Tim (talk) If there's no harm in it, why not?
5. FunkyK38 (talk) This would make it easier for the patrollers to do their job.
6. Edofenrir (talk)- If it helps to keep this site safe from trolls, then I second.
7. Coincollector (talk) - It seems reasonable to me and fair for patrolles to use this page.
8. Hyper Guy (talk)- Mah boi, I am seeing exactly where your coming from! If I were a patroller, I'd want a bit more power than the current things available for the patrollers. MORE POWER FOR THEM!
9. T.c.w7468 (talk) Why not? It won't harm the wiki and it'll keep spammers out. Per all.
10. Walkazo (talk) - Per all. It takes too long when the Patrollers have to go and ask Sysops to CheckUser for them.
11. Jdrowlands (talk) - If you are giving them block, give them checkuser. Simple as that.
12. Randoman123456789 (talk) - Power to the Patrollers! This thing will sure reduce the number of spammers.
13. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Per all, I think this is a good thing!
14. Dry Luigi (talk) Great idea per all.

Comments

Here is a link to the extension: [1]. It is also listed in our version information, so I guess we have it. Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk)

How would you go about getting this, would you just ask and Mediwiki gives it or would it be more complicated? Marioguy1 (talk)

That is classified, I will note here though that Porple (the founder and owner of the Wiki) gave his approval for giving CheckUser to them (if this passes). Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk)

As of now, 21:54, 7 September 2009 (EDT), WarioLoaf has created a sockpuppet and has also trolled Userpedia. I feel this incident furthers the fact that it would be very useful for Patrollers to have CheckUser. It would further protect us from trolls like these. Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk)

Actually, a CheckUser is extremely necessary NOW Tucayo (talk)

The proposal must pass in the appointed date. However, if you see any suspicious action (like moving pages into nasty words) don't doubt on giving that guy a permanent ban. Coincollector (talk)

Time Limit Before New Game Spoilers Added to Other Articles

First, I hope I've added this proposal correctly; my apologies if I've messed up somewhere. To the point, I'm proposing there be some sort of time limit, a statute of limitations if you will, before spoilers for an as-yet unreleased game begin to filter their way into other articles. For example, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story is not out in North America yet, but as I was reading over several Partners in Time entries, I came upon numerous spoilers for the unreleased game. I understand if spoilers for BIS would be in the M&L:BIS entry, as that would be a "read at your own risk" situation, but should someone who is just trying to get caught up be forced to find out things they don't want to until they get a chance to play the game?

Proposer: LBD_Nytetrayn (talk)
Deadline: September 20, 2009, 15:00

Oppose

1. Time Q (talk): We're not a random fan site, but an encyclopedia, and as such are our task is to cover everything Mario-related in the most objective and neutral way possible. Thus, hiding information from our readers, no matter for what reason, is bad. If someone doesn't want to know something about Mario, they shouldn't read this wiki, it's as simple as that.