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::::I think you misunderstood. The Gold Shell is unnamed in official materials for ''[[New Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' '''specifically'''. It is called a gold shell in official materials for ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP DX]]'', and ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]''. It's even referred to as a "gold shell" in-game by [[Coach (Super Mario Galaxy)|Coach]] in Galaxy. Not meaning to be condescending, just clarifying. -- [[User:Pizza Master|Pizza Master]] ([[User talk:Pizza Master|talk]]) | ::::I think you misunderstood. The Gold Shell is unnamed in official materials for ''[[New Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' '''specifically'''. It is called a gold shell in official materials for ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP DX]]'', and ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]''. It's even referred to as a "gold shell" in-game by [[Coach (Super Mario Galaxy)|Coach]] in Galaxy. Not meaning to be condescending, just clarifying. -- [[User:Pizza Master|Pizza Master]] ([[User talk:Pizza Master|talk]]) | ||
:::::So it turns out the ''Mario Kart World'' item is actually called ゴールデンこうら (''Gōruden Kōra'') in Japanese, which doesn't match up with its previous names in that language either, but ''does'' match up with the Japanese name for Gold Koopas (ゴールデンノコノコ, ''Gōruden Nokonoko''). Given that I'd now be inclined to say that it's likely meant to be the same object as the Gold Koopa shells from ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'' at the very least. Though it doesn't feel right to me either to treat the gold shells from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and the ''Mario Kart Arcade GP'' games as necessarily the same item. However, while I think the Japanese name they went with for the ''Mario Kart World'' item is potentially relevant, I don't think it actually matters much what they decided to call it in English and other languages either way. ("Coin Shell" strikes me as another arbitrary NoA/NoE change more than anything.) [[User:PaperSplash|PaperSplash]] ([[User talk:PaperSplash|talk]]) 18:15, April 23, 2025 (EDT) | :::::So it turns out the ''Mario Kart World'' item is actually called ゴールデンこうら (''Gōruden Kōra'') in Japanese, which doesn't match up with its previous names in that language either, but ''does'' match up with the Japanese name for Gold Koopas (ゴールデンノコノコ, ''Gōruden Nokonoko''). Given that I'd now be inclined to say that it's likely meant to be the same object as the Gold Koopa shells from ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'' at the very least. Though it doesn't feel right to me either to treat the gold shells from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and the ''Mario Kart Arcade GP'' games as necessarily the same item. However, while I think the Japanese name they went with for the ''Mario Kart World'' item is potentially relevant, I don't think it actually matters much what they decided to call it in English and other languages either way. ("Coin Shell" strikes me as another arbitrary NoA/NoE change more than anything.) [[User:PaperSplash|PaperSplash]] ([[User talk:PaperSplash|talk]]) 18:15, April 23, 2025 (EDT) | ||
::::::I mean, Gōruden Kōra or ゴールデンこうら (Golden shell) isn't that different a name from ゴールドこうら or Gōrudo Kōra (Gold shell) (The item's name in GP DX). On the point regarding the differing functionality between Galaxy and the GP series, think of the [[Ice Flower]]. It functions differently in ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' and ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' but doesn't get split pages because it's clearly the same item. -- [[User:Pizza Master|Pizza Master]] ([[User talk:Pizza Master|talk]]) |
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Hummm, why is this article written as a story? Supermariofan14
What kind of effect does the gold shell have when its thrown underwater? Does it home in or not? wow it's Kiryu (TC)
- It looked like it did for me. I'm pretty sure it does, yeah. I watched it follow an eel round a corner. Avengah 08:00, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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The Gold Shell in New Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario 3D World, and Mario Kart World appears to be a different object from the Gold Shells in other games. It has a different function, and as of Kart World it has a different name too ("Coin Shell"). I think it should be split. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 13:35, April 7, 2025 (EDT)
- Let's wait until the game is released first, please? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:55, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
- This merge is comparable to the Mario Kart Lightning Cloud and Thunder Cloud merge. The Thunder Cloud (MKGP) and Lightning Cloud (the one from MKWii) look the same but are differently named and function differently from each other, yet they are merged since the identical appearances alone is enough to consider them the same item. The Gold Shell from MKGPDX and Coin Shell from MKWorld look exactly the same so I'd argue they're the same item. I'd say this article should instead be moved to Coin Shell and be rewritten to fit that name as that seems to be the new name for the Gold Shell. -- Pizza Master (talk)
- Also worth mentioning is that the Coin Shell from Mario Kart World looks almost completely identical to the Shell worn by Gold Koopas in New Super Mario Bros. 2. The 'Gold Shell' from NSMB2 goes unnamed in official media related to the game including the files of the game itself but would presumably be called a Gold Shell given the game's naming pattern of "object X" + "Gold Ring Effect" = "Gold X" or simply Gold Koopa Shell given that it's worn by a Gold Koopa. -- Pizza Master (talk)
- Well, it went unnamed in official materials for a while, until Mario Kart World, in which it reappears with the name "Coin Shell". jan Misali (talk · contributions) 00:03, April 22, 2025 (EDT)
- I think you misunderstood. The Gold Shell is unnamed in official materials for New Super Mario Bros. 2 specifically. It is called a gold shell in official materials for Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, and Super Mario 3D World. It's even referred to as a "gold shell" in-game by Coach in Galaxy. Not meaning to be condescending, just clarifying. -- Pizza Master (talk)
- So it turns out the Mario Kart World item is actually called ゴールデンこうら (Gōruden Kōra) in Japanese, which doesn't match up with its previous names in that language either, but does match up with the Japanese name for Gold Koopas (ゴールデンノコノコ, Gōruden Nokonoko). Given that I'd now be inclined to say that it's likely meant to be the same object as the Gold Koopa shells from New Super Mario Bros. 2 at the very least. Though it doesn't feel right to me either to treat the gold shells from Super Mario Galaxy and the Mario Kart Arcade GP games as necessarily the same item. However, while I think the Japanese name they went with for the Mario Kart World item is potentially relevant, I don't think it actually matters much what they decided to call it in English and other languages either way. ("Coin Shell" strikes me as another arbitrary NoA/NoE change more than anything.) PaperSplash (talk) 18:15, April 23, 2025 (EDT)
- I think you misunderstood. The Gold Shell is unnamed in official materials for New Super Mario Bros. 2 specifically. It is called a gold shell in official materials for Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Arcade GP DX, and Super Mario 3D World. It's even referred to as a "gold shell" in-game by Coach in Galaxy. Not meaning to be condescending, just clarifying. -- Pizza Master (talk)
- I mean, Gōruden Kōra or ゴールデンこうら (Golden shell) isn't that different a name from ゴールドこうら or Gōrudo Kōra (Gold shell) (The item's name in GP DX). On the point regarding the differing functionality between Galaxy and the GP series, think of the Ice Flower. It functions differently in Super Mario Galaxy and New Super Mario Bros. Wii but doesn't get split pages because it's clearly the same item. -- Pizza Master (talk)