Talk:Poltergust

Poltergust, Poltergust, Poltergust

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I have to say, I find the splitting of the different games' Poltergusts a bit silly. I mean, I get why it's the case, and I don't really have any good arguments otherwise. Still, it's splitting the same (fairly important!) recurring element of the series across different pages because of what amounts to a cute naming quirk. A cute naming quirk that only exists in the first place because the original English name "Poltergust 3000" happens to imply that other versions would have different names not ending in "3000". I'm not sure where I'm going with this. I guess I'd just like to read someone else's thoughts on this. Blinker (talk) 18:19, January 4, 2025 (EST)

With the exception of Super Poltergust 3001, which is shown existing at the same time as the 3000 (and has a different JP name, unlike every other one), I agree. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:31, January 4, 2025 (EST)

The only one I personally think is fine being split is the MKDS kart. It's not used in the same way as any of the others. I guess the Super Poltergust 3001 is also fine, Doc's comment on it existing at the same time as the OG model is a point in its favor, but the Poltergusts used in the LM series overall, I feel they could be their own article. I am a bit torn on the fact that they have different functions. Less so for the Dark Moon iteration, all it's functions basically return in the G-00 model, but the 3000 has the elemental functions, the G-00 has the hyper suction thing, so I also agree that it's hard to really say they can be merged. Tails777 Talk to me!20:34, January 4, 2025 (EST)

To be honest, the different functions aren't that big a deal. The games already establish that it's possible to upgrade the Poltergust by physically adding different bits and bobs, like the strobulb, the dark light device, even Gooigi. Anyways, I decided to look into the English and Japanese text in LM2 to see how the thing is introduced, and as usual, it's a mess. I may as well copy that here, although beware of typos. The English version says "Ah, you've found it! Good work, Luigi. That there is the new-and-improved Poltergust 5000!", while the Japanese version says 『ル・・ジくん・・・ルイージくん / わしじゃオヤ・マーじゃ / フェッ フェッ フェッ！ / 無事に見つけられたようじゃのう / さすがは ルイージくん！ / そうじゃ / それがわしの発明した掃除機！ / その名も / 「オバキューム」じゃ！！』, which seems to mean "Lu..gi... Luigi, it's me, E. Gadd. Heh heh heh! I see you found it safely. As expected of Luigi! That's right. That's the vacuum cleaner I invented. It's called the 'Poltergust'!!". Unhelpful. Blinker (talk) 11:32, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I'd support a merge except for the Super Poltergust 3001. Super Mario RPG (talk) 11:44, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I'd be more in support of converting this disambiguation list into a more detailed catchall Poltergust article like we do for Mario Circuit while leaving the individual ones have their own article, because these designs do have extensive history backing them and I think it would be a bit messy to have all-in-one article. Ray Trace^(T|C) 12:09, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I'm confused, what do you mean by "messy"? Blinker (talk) 13:10, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I feel the most messy thing about merging all the Poltergusts is the potential idea that this article on a vacuum cleaner is going to have a handful of sections dedicated to the statistics of a kart (unless that's by default being left out of this conversation). I'm actually on board with Ray Trace's idea of converting this page to a catchall article for every Poltergust. Tails777 Talk to me!

The way I see it, the kart(s) would be left out, yeah. Think Koopa Clown. Blinker (talk) 14:48, January 5, 2025 (EST)

The original was able to become a ride-on vehicle for the PAL Hidden Mansion Boolossus fight, though. And some vehicles do have their pages cover both kart and non-kart appearances. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:44, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I am on the fence about merging the Luigi's Mansion Poltergusts but I am very much opposed to merging the karts and Super as well. A page about a car detailing its appearances as a car and as a kart is not the same thing as a a page about a ghost-catching device and a series of karts, even if the former has an edge-case that could be somewhat qualified as a vehicle. — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 16:53, January 5, 2025 (EST)