Talk:Bob Hoskins

Glowsquid has a point. WE SHOULD CENSOR/REMOVE that part. Max2 (talk)

I was under the impression that articles needn't be censored, seeing as this is a direct quote. -- Booster

Articles need censoring. Max2 (talk)

The No Swearing rules only applies to userspace not articles & direct quotes. Xzelion^ETC

Actually, I am strongly agaisnt censoring quote. I was only pointing out that there is innapopriate stuff, and that Conker shouldn't be excluded because of that. Censoring should be destroyed. Glowsquid

We censor only in userspace. Xzelion^ETC

Well, we should do something. maybe a notice on the top of teh page. Something. Max2 (talk)

No need, as this is a main space article. -- Son of Suns

OMG!!! IT HAS THE "F" WORD IN IT!!! That is horrible, we shouldn't have that there. My Bloody Valentine

Also the whole part containing the F word seems a little pointless. Xzelion^ETC

I think it has a point. It's his views on the movie, although it may be better in the film article itself. -- Son of Suns

Maybe we need a proposal Mr. Guy the Guy Talk!^E To stop spam!

The problem is, where do you draw the line? As I've noted before, Peach and Daisy wear some very revealing soccer outfits. Should that be censored? -- Son of Suns

Maybe Template:Censor might be good saying "Warning: This article contains swearing and/or adult content" or stuff like that. Uh...as I type this I'm beginig to think the wiki went too far. Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!

Isn't adult content is relative? Kids should not be able to read SSB Melee content, as the game is rated teen. The violence is too much for kids under age 13 to handle, and they should be warned. -- Son of Suns

Uh, more like below 8 (just because I'm 10 and I watch South park once and awhile), but I think this is how a template would work say:

This article has content not sutiable for people under the age (?). Preceed with caution.

The (?) is a number we come up with. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!

Just put a note that it has Swearing on it, and be done with it. Yeesh, no need to argue about this. My Bloody Valentine And, SSBM was only rated "T" because they had no better rating at the time, if they did, they would of rated it a bit lower. It isn't even rated PG down under, only G8+ (G is the most child-friendly rating, PG comes right after it).

Whose to say what is mature or not? Many articles may be too "mature" for some people - there is a lot of violence in the Mario series. Should we add a warning template to most every single article in the wiki? -- Son of Suns

OK, so, you are saying that slight violence and minor sexual themes are worse than constant use of the "F" word. My Bloody Valentine Yep, that makes a LOT of sense. (Sarcasm)

Enough. This is getting way out of hand. If a gamee script/quote/screen shot/whathaveyou makes use of profanity, it will be included in any copies of said material we use on the wiki. This is an encyclopedia, we do not censer.

And I personally find the idea of a 'warning' a person that he/she may see mean words and icky pics absurd. -- Chris 23:09, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

Many (including myself) think that the Baby Yoshis singing in Yoshi's Story really sound like they are saying a...ole. Should we put that template on these two pages? Glowsquid

Should we have this "quasi-template" on the DK Rap article too? I mean, someone's gonna find Hell offensive. Same goes if we describe Magikoopa's role in Mario Party 8, a bunch of Europeans found his use of "spaz" (or something) highly distateful, with it apparently being profanity over there or something. -- Sir Grodus

The word was "spatic", it actually got pulled out of the shelves in the UK because of it, it's an abusive word toward those with learning difficulty, apparently.

Glowsquid

We should do this: F**** instead of adding a template or leaving it out, the f word could be censored, they don't even say it on tv!

Master Crash

Maybe not at the times you watch TV, or on the channels you watch. Nothing should be censored in an encyclopedia. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:17, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

Vote for Template:Mature

Add Template

1. My Bloody Valentine The "F" word is a very horrible word, people should be given at least a warning about the page.
2. Peachycakes 3.14 Per DP
3. If this doesn't go through,I at least think it should be censored.(Toadbert101||Give a yell|Sez:I phailz) 02:01, 27 September 2007 (EDT)
4. Explosive Pants Modifier maybe we should do this. its a good idea for young kids (like me).
5. 3D, GOOD GRIEF! Have we gotten so deseisitized that we'd let stuff like this on our pages? Pfft.

No Template

1. Ghost Jam
2. Time Q
3. Glowsquid As Sir Grodus showed, there's a lot of possibly offensive content in the Marioverse. We woud end up with everyone putting this template on every pages. Heck, Mario himself could be considered offensive to Italians since he's pretty much a stereotype/caricature. Glowsquid
4. Son of Suns - Per what I've said, what Sir Grodus has said, what Glowsquid just said. Articles should not be censored. Freedom of speech man.
5. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Per SoS.
6. Per Son of Suns and Sir Grodus. --KPH2293
7. ~Uniju(T-C-E) Per, everyone else.

Results

It's been four days and just about everyone that cares has cast a vote. Consensus is 7-3 on not using Template:Mature.

As a note, someone stated that, instead of using the template, censoring the words. This is an encyclopedia. We do not censer. However, if anyone feels that we should, please make a Proposal. -- Chris 07:05, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

Since the conscensus is to not use this template, shouldn't said template get deleted?

Glowsquid

I'm currently running a few searches to see if there are any other articles that it may be used for. If I find none (which I'm sure I won't), I'll delete it. -- Chris 07:10, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

Thank you. - Glowsquid

Orangeyoshi When you had this vote, I didn't know it was happening. (I'm not even sure I was registered back then!) But then I read this whole page, and I noticed it's true that we should have had a warning template. Everyone who thought so is right, and there's a specific reason why we should have a warning, but it's a little hard to explain. I just want to say, for all of you who voted against the template, I could prove each of you wrong if you wanted me to. But... it's too late. It won't help me at all.

I made a proposal. Go there. BLOC PARTIER.

Wait, who won InfectedShroom and Glitchman's proposal? Is it going to get censored? CrystalYoshi

InfectedShroom withdrawn the proposal before it could pass. So yeah, there's no official status on what to do with the swear words. --Blitzwing 18:23, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Toadette 4evur took action again before there was any consensus *yawn*. So, are we gonna use the template that Porplemontage proposed? Time Questions 19:08, 12 February 2008 (EST)

I want to, or we could leave it censored like that. Whichever one you prefer. CrystalYoshi

Or we could just leave it uncensored :P No reason why this option should be excluded. The old proposal brought no consensus, so either there's a new proposal or we follow the admin's suggestion. Time Questions 20:06, 12 February 2008 (EST)

I'd say use Steve template. this way, the article is censored, but the ``offending`` content is still here. The way it's censored as of now just look retarted. --Blitzwing 20:18, 12 February 2008 (EST)

So, has anyone made the template? Does anyone know how to make the template? And Blitzwing, how come you like to use the infinitive form of verbs when the he/she/it conjugation is needed? You just do it 'cause you think it's funny? Or 'cause you know it'll annoy everyone? CrystalYoshi

Wait, wut? I thought I said to delete it cuz it had expired... The censoring side won by one vote. I didn't withdraw... BLOC PARTIER. AHHH! I'm so confused!

Apologies, I misinterpreted the comment you left on the proposals page. Anyway, the show-hide template sounds like a nice idea to me. --KPH2293 20:23, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Forget it, leave it the way it is, it's better that way. CrystalYoshi

Uh, no CY. And that's OK, KPH. The hide/show box sounds pretty good. Let's do that. BLOC PARTIER.

No, the template should say that the quote contains swearing, so that people know why it's hidden and kids know not to click show. CrystalYoshi

The best solution would be changing the text of the buttom from "show" to "show rest of the quote (contains swearing", however this seems to be impossible due to technical limitations. But adding a text directly into the quoation marks also looks bad. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 18:51, 22 February 2008 (EST)

I'd personally try to find a different qoute to post; then delete the current one. But hidng it sounds good. Let's do do it. 3D, WII

But most people don't want to do that, so I'm okay with censoring (which won the proposal, I don't understand why InfectedShroom doesn't want to do it anymore) or the template they have now, but with a notice telling that there's swearing and that's why it's hidden. CrystalYoshi

Didn't you or someone else say that Wikipedia uses such a template? How do they do it? Time Questions 19:13, 22 February 2008 (EST)

We can't properly say who won the proposal, as the wording was modified and both sides were very close. Consensuses aren't made by winning 50,5% of the votes but a remarkable majority. Currently, nothing is decided, so automatically we should do that what doesn't get any complains. And when the show/hide goes okay with everyone, there's no reason to change it. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 19:34, 22 February 2008 (EST)

But think about it. Not in the point of view of Cobold or Time Q or whoever is reading this, but in the point of view some kid who has never heard of our debate. He'd se this and say, "What the heck is this "show" thing, and editing mistake?" Not everyone knows about the swear words, just us. No one has any reason to say there's something wrong with putting a note of the swearing in the quote, so that kids (good ones at least) know to to click show. CrystalYoshi

Technically, Majority means above 50%. But it doesn't matter. We do need a warning, though, because as CY said, we at the wiki are the only ones who know about the quote. But as Cobold said, we are unable to do that because of technical limitations... Hmm... I'll try editing around a little... BLOC PARTIER.

Hmmm... I added something, but I'm sure someone won't like it... BLOC PARTIER.

"Explicit materials" sounds a little weird. How about just "swearing"? Can I change it? CrystalYoshi

Good. Which is better, "Warning" or "Notice?" CrystalYoshi

Warning is better. ``Notice`` just mean that something is unusual or that you should look at it. Warning is well... a warning. --Blitzwing 20:57, 24 February 2008 (EST)

Good!

Yay! (Confetti falls from the sky, balloons are floating up into the air) The wiki is kid-friendly! Everyone agrees on this solution! I'm really glad, when I first came across this page I thought there would never be a solution to make it kid-friendly. And now there is! - CrystalYoshi 15:50, 25 February 2008 (EST)

Pah, kid-friendly on an Encyclopedia? This Wiki is pathetic. Xzelion tells me that the rules state that cursing is allowed on Articles, just not on Userspace (that said, I'm having a tough time FINDING the rules. ^^;). So, you want to break this rule just to make the Wiki 'kid friendly'? You should get a warning for breaking this rule, actually. All this censorship is pointless. I'm calling for a removal of the "Show/Hide" feature once again, and leaving the article as it was before. My Bloody Valentine

I agree that the Show/Hide feature should be removed... But the swearing itself should be censored. No matter what the rules say. Rules aren't always right you know, and this rule does not work. This may be an encyclopedia, but it is an encyclopedia based on a series of KID-FRIENDLY games. Having this quote included and un-censored will just cause trouble. Snack 22:58, 25 February 2008 (EST)