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This would be a huge project for the Sysops and Beuracrats (not one) and our featured articles like the Yoshi one will be reduced.{{User:Storm Yoshi/sig}}
This would be a huge project for the Sysops and Beuracrats (not one) and our featured articles like the Yoshi one will be reduced.{{User:Storm Yoshi/sig}}
Arend, of course we're not making the pages bald, the only images that will be put into galleries are the onse in those sections devoted entirely to images near the bottoms of big pages (i.e. [[Bowser]]). - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]


===Merge Bird Articles===
===Merge Bird Articles===

Revision as of 00:01, January 3, 2008

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~).

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
  8. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 05:33, 14 November 2024 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

Quotes

On really long articles such as Peach, one can see that there are dozens of qoutes, and most of them are completely pointless like:

  • Help
  • "Dear Mario, I'll be waiting for you at the castle on the night of the Star Festival. There's something I'd like to give you. From Peach".

I propose that these either get removed or shortened. I see no promblem with having qoutes, but having so many that arn't even descent (Although that is a matter of opinion) is pointless. What are your thoughts?

Proposer:HyperToad
Deadline: Janurary 5, 2008, 20:00

Remove Them

  1. HyperToad Reason said above.
  2. NMRodo I think quote sections like that should be removed altogether.

Keep Them

  1. User:Pseudo-dino Well, we could probably keep the second one, but we gotta get rid of Help
  2. Walkazo - See my below comment.
  3. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Comments

As you said, deciding what Quotes are decent and which aren,t is purely a matter of opinion. I think we should use a case-by-case procedure, not everything need to be run throught a proposal. Blitzwing

already had this prospoal, that one -_-' GrodenE T C El
Uh?

Blitzwing

Although it is a matter of opinion, how the heck is "Help" a descent qoute, I'm sure anybody could agree that it's just stupid. HyperToad

Rather than argue that it's stupid, you could say it was just one of the exclaimations in SMG put there in order to help guide players rather than significant dialouge. I'd be more willing to delete it then, wouldn't you? That said, I agree with Blitzwing that these things are too varied for a proposal. How about just talking on the talk page? Stumpers! 14:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)
We already had a proposal about quotes to which it was decided (as Blitzwing suggested here) that relevancy would be decided case-by-case. The first proposal was concerning nonsensical things like "Ahhhh!", but we did touch on ubiquitous-sounding quotes like "help" and we decided that since (in this case) Peach screams for "help" so often it actually does shed some light on her character and therefore is in fact a "decent quote". - Walkazo

In my opinion, entire sections devoted to quotes are ridiculous. Sure, the quotes at the top and everything are okay, but these quote sections... Let's see. They clutter the article, they're often written in poor grammar, and sometimes they've been added to the article above the quote section. They're trouble in my opinion, and I think that not only should the "small" quotes like Peach screaming for help should be removed, but the entire quote sections. NMRodo

Splits & Merges

Galleries

So I was viewing the site and noticed that a whole bunch the pages (notably Wario) has a section devoted to images, though recently they've been a little too big. I propose that we create galleries for specific characters and merge the images ove there. For example, maybe we could have a page called "Gallery: Wario" or something similar and merge all of the images over there. Or possibly just make a category called "Category: Wario images" and have all the images there for people to view. It seems like there are over 100 images on the page, and I'm sure many will agree that they should all be merged to their own page.

Proposer: Bentendo.png Talk
Deadline::December 31, 2007, 17:00

Make galleries

  1. Bentendo.png Talk My reasons above!
  2. Blitzwing Save article space.
  3. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Similar to the quotes, those get really to long on articles like Princess Peach.
  4. Knife (talk) 12:41, 24 December 2007 (EST)Category idea seems better than an article just for images.
  5. Walkazo - Those image galleries take up too much time and memory to load, having them on seperate pages like quotes is a good idea.
  6. ~PY Purpleyoshisig.PNG-Per everyone.
  7. NMRodo Sounds like a plan.
  8. Freakatone 18:10, 28 December 2007 (EST) yup
  9. Stumpers! Per Bentendo, and also because we need some order regarding images, so this could help people who are looking for "that one" image. Plus, then we don't have to nitpick about "This image is just of a Bowser suit." or anything.
  10. InfectedShroom.Infectoicon.png |Talk|Reviews| Per everyone. I also think that we should have seperate pages for quotes...
  11. Stooben Rooben There definitely should be gallery pages, that way it doesn't take up so much article space (and maybe they'd load quicker). And if all you were interested in was the gallery, then you could just go to that page.

Nah

  1. HyperToad I don't think that images deserve there own page, but it doesn't matter, because I'm out-numbered.
  2. GrodenE T C El If your that dissapointed about article space, just add less images around one corner, jeez.
  3. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Comments

Knife: Images in a "Wario Image Category" but not on a page will be marked as unused and destroyed by the devorous Unused Image predators. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:32, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Hmmm, would we keep any images on the page? NMRodo

We would only remove the images galleries (official artwork/screenshot galliers), the images in the written article itself stay. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:03, 24 December 2007 (EST)

As an aside, many wiki will create gallery-lists when images are placed in a gallery. I tried this once before, and it seems that it doesn't work around here. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 14:46, 24 December 2007 (EST)

What's a gallery list? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 07:24, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Go to any mushroom image and add Category:Mushrooms. What is supposed to happen, Category:Mushrooms will list all the articles in said category, then have a separate section called Images that will list all images in said category in gallery format. However, I tried this before and it didn't work. It just listed a link to the image. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 21:17, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Sounds like a task for DPL script. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 17:33, 27 December 2007 (EST)

So does that mean I don't have to do anything? Bentendo.png Talk

MiniMariolover10: The problem is: Some article on major characters such as Wario or Luigi have an extensive "gallery" section, which have every artwork/screenshots of the character in question, those pics take up a lot of spaces, but some users are not too happy about removing them. With this proposal, we can cut down the size of some articles while still keeping the images. Blitzwing

But we would still have the images, just on a different page. Bentendo.png Talk
That's what I said.

Blitzwing

Major facepalm! I read it wrong, sorry! Bentendo.png Talk

This would be a huge project for the Sysops and Beuracrats (not one) and our featured articles like the Yoshi one will be reduced.Storm Yoshi sig.pngStorm YoshiStorm Yoshi sig.png

Arend, of course we're not making the pages bald, the only images that will be put into galleries are the onse in those sections devoted entirely to images near the bottoms of big pages (i.e. Bowser). - Walkazo

Merge Bird Articles

The Other night I was looking through articles and I came across the Blue Bird, Green Bird, Yellow Bird, and Red Bird. Yellow and Blue barly make any apperances while Red only makes one. I think these are way to insignificent so I say we merge them into on Birds Article Or Minor Speacies of Island Delfino.

Proposer: Luigibros2
Deadline:: January 5th, 2008, 20:00

Merge them

  1. Luigibros2 My Reasons above
  2. GrodenE T C El Same thing, different gifts.
  3. Ultimatetoad
  4. Celeste 14:46, 29 December 2007 (EST) – they are not different species just because they are colored different and many animals have different colored/patterned coats (like cats).
  5. Walkazo - Their individual articles are three lines each. Merge them and we'll have a decent article. Plus it will be faster to read one page than having to go from one to another, to another...
  6. Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E - Like Red Koopas and Green Koopas, they should be merged, as they're just palettes
  7. Luigifan14 02:21, 2 January 2008 (EST) - There isn't enough about them to merit seperate pages. All of them could be summed up in one ordinary paragraph. Same for the Boards in Super Mario Galaxy (though I could see line breaks on every sign)
  8. Boop Explosive Pants Modifier theyre just palette swaps

Let there be Bird articles

  1. ~Uniju(T-C-E)Although their all rather minor, they are different species', so they each are deserving of an article.
  2. Bentendo.png TalkI like the seperate articles!
  3. User:Pseudo-dino Gotta agree with Bentendo.
  4. papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! papertoycf7.gif What Uniju said. Let's see here: Mini Goomba is similar to Goomba. Merge anyone?
  5. Stooben Rooben Leave 'em alone! If we merge the bird articles, we might as well cram all the different species of Koopas into one big article. Same with any other thing that has sub-species.
  6. NMRodo Per Uniju and Paper Jorge.

Comments

Hmmm... While the birds are rather insignificant, they are all seperate creatures with different purposes. For now, I'm neutral on this.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dodoman (talk).

Uniju: Yes, but they are all birds. They only have 2 differences; one is their colour s and two is their coin they give out/ GrodenE T C El

What about Yoshi's. We have Red Yoshi, Yellow Yoshi etc..... should they be merged? - Ultimatetoad

Probably not, just because they are specific characters when you look at individual Yoshi's Island games. Stumpers! 14:52, 29 December 2007 (EST)
Yeah, but if you look at the Purple Yoshi article it talks about Purple Yoshis in general (the Super Mario Sunshine Purple Yoshis vs. the Yoshi's Island Purple Yoshi). I sorta agree they should all be merged into one article with all the Yoshi subspecies but that would look a bit messy and wouldn't last very long. I think one "Isle Delfino Birds" article will work here because the birds are so minor, whereas Yoshis are real pop-icons when it comes to the Marioverse. - Walkazo

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.