Talk:Magikoopa

Shells

• Magikoopas do have shells! In Mario & Luigi Partners in Time, Kamek says "You guys really chap my shell"... If he had no shell, why would he say that?
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I think it's merely a way of saying he's angry. Kinda like "You are getting on my nerves". There's no real proof Magikoopa's have shells. --Blitzwing 18:23, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Well if they don't there hunchbcks. Random Chaos 22:33, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

Alternative names in foreign languages

I wasn't sure where else to put this, so I used the talk page of an article where it applies. How exactly should alternative names in a language different from English be listed? The German Super Mario World strategy guide includes some names that are different from those that appear in other sources; Magikoopa is referred to as Koopalini (instead of Kamek), Urchin as Aqua-Wummp (instead of Igluk), etc. so I was wondering if there is already a guideline on how to list those.--Vellidragon 12:46, 1 December 2009 (EST)

I don't know a guideline, but there are already lists with more than one name for one language, e.g. Fawful in European Spanish. It should be clear what name is the current one. --Grandy02 12:45, 9 January 2010 (EST)

Jerry

There is a magikoopa in mario and luigi:Bowser's inside story named Jerry.User:Mr bones

Magikoopa or Kamek?

I say we remove the Yoshi's Island artwork and the NSMB Wii info. This article is about Magikoopas, not Kamek. Regular Magikoopas aren't found in those games, Kamek is all you see. Supermariofan14

However, Kamek is a magikoopa, and if she is a magikoopa, then we should add the [general] info about them here as well.

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Tattle!

There is no tattle information for Magikoopa in Super Paper Mario. Could somebody add that?
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I added it in. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Tutankoopa?

I'm pretty sure [[Tutankoopa is not a Magikoopa. He's a koopa spirit
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Mario Party 9

In Mario Party 9, is the playable Magikoopa a Magikoopa or Kamek? Due to translations, the English version labels the Magikoopa as "Magikoopa" and the European version labels this as "Kamek". Now, what should we do? My suggestion is to say that the Magikoopa "is playable in Mario Party 9... However, in the European translations, this Magikoopa is called "Kamek" and we include this information in the Kamek article as well.

I think it's just to avoid confusion, although we base our information on what region the game is first released. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:07, 8 March 2012 (EST)

I think it should say that in the American version Kamek is mistakenly called Magikoopa or something like that as to reference the fact that the playable character is really Kamek but he's called Magikoopa in America. Also policy states that we use the European information since it came out in Europe first. Raven Effect (talk)

If something says it's Kamek, it's Kamek, end of story. It doesn't matter what region it is or which came first. Generic "Magikoopa" is a lack of information, and if one region's lacking but another one has more complete info, go with the more complete set (it's like how we use the region that makes the most sense when it comes to splitting and merging species, or in situations like King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)). All this page should say is that Kamek appears in MP9, but that he was only identified as "Magikoopa" in the American version, with {{main}} linking directly to the appropriate section on Kamek's page. - Walkazo 01:02, 8 March 2012 (EST)

Okay, thanks for clarifying things. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 19:15, 8 March 2012 (EST)

Super Mario RPG

It was said that the American localizers made an error and accidentally named Kamek "Magikoopa". Yet, wouldn't the quote given (That's... my child?) on the Magikoopa article be from Kamek, not a Magikoopa? -NessPeppyTails

His name in Japan isn't "Kamek", it's "Kamezādo". Vent (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2013 (EDT)

Note on Kamek

I think that at the top of the article it should say, for the character sometimes known as magikoopa see Kamek.RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!! (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

I added the {{Articleabout}} template if that was what you were talking about. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:49, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Section Inconsistency

Why is there a sub section "Paper Mario Information" under Official Profiles and Statistics with the Info Boxes for Paper Mario and TTYD? Shouldn't it be there in their respective game section, like the others articles? In fact, the Super Paper Mario info is in the game's section too. Hellmasterbg (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2014 (EDT)

Magikoopa Transforms in Mario Maker

Should we have a proper list of what Magikoopas can transform blocks into in Mario Maker when normal/winged/big/big winged? That seems like something that would be added, but I wouldn't want to just go in without asking first. The Blue Boo (talk) 23:01, 17 September 2017 (EDT)

Mario Party 8?

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This article says 2 of the voices in the fun bazzar of mario party 8 are named after kamek. For some reason, in the copy of the game that i own, they are named magikoopa voices. maybe it's like mario party 9, where the name depends on the region? i have the NTSC version if i'm not mistaken. YoshiEgg1990

Where in Super Mario Party?

Where in the game is the generic Magikoopa present?--Hamshamcart (talk) 21:23, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Alternate colors

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This is an inconsistency that bothers me a bit. While admittedly other enemies in PM and TTYD don't have color variants that aren't a wholly different enemy (barring Red Spike Top in the latter), the other appearances of them do have color variants, and the abilities aren't that consistent anyways. So, I ask: why are the color variants split? Should they not be merged? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:20, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

I feel like the blue-shelled Spike Tops from two of the Paper Mario games could possibly be split into "Spike Top (blue shell)" with Red Spike Top merged into the main article, but that's neither here nor there. My question is, what about Kamek's color clones from Dream Team? LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:33, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

Could probably merge them with Kamek, though given the clone aspect a case could be made for keeping them...for now. (Also Spike Top in the first one did have a red shell, it had a blue one in TTYD and Super...and also there's the blue ones from the Maker games). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:41, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

Honestly, I think it's OK to keep them split, since besides the color they still have unique traits to further distinguish them from the regular Magikoopas, such as their individual skills in the first two Paper Mario games. Other types of species such as Yoshis and Shy Guys probably don't have different colors split because there aren't enough differences. Nightwicked Bowser

Problem is said "individual skills" don't carry. In TTYD, Green Magikoopas got the abilities of yellow and gray ones while losing their original ones to Red Magikoopas. This is therefore very much like Shy Guys since the lack of consistency of abilities is what keeps them merged. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:56, September 3, 2020 (EDT)

OK, I have assembled a helpful table to show how the variance has been, and it's really not been consistent. Red's been closest, but...

	Normal/Blue	Red	Yellow	Green	Purple	Gray	White
Paper Mario	Magikoopa Just magic blasts (Shooting Star Summit) All Magikoopa abilities, along with cloning (Bowser's Castle)	R Magikoopa Magic blasts and POW boosts	Y Magikoopa Magic blasts and electrification	GRN Magikoopa Magic blasts and DEF boosts	Nonexistent	GRY Magikoopa Magic blasts and invisibility boosts	W Magikoopa Magic blasts and healing
Paper Mario: TTYD	Magikoopa All Magikoopa abilities	R. Magikoopa Magic blasts, POW and DEF boosts, and cloning	Nonexistent	G. Magikoopa Magic blasts, elec. and inv. boosts, and cloning	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	W. Magikoopa Magic blasts, healing, and cloning
Mario Superstar Baseball	Magikoopa Great fielder, below-average batter, bad pitcher and runner	Red Magikoopa Slightly better batter, even worse runner	Yellow Magikoopa Better pitcher, worse batter and runner	Green Magikoopa Slightly better pitcher, even worse runner	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Nonexistent
Mario Super Sluggers	Magikoopa Great fielder and pitcher, bad batter and runner	Red Magikoopa Slightly better batter, even worse runner	Yellow Magikoopa Slightly worse pitcher	Green Magikoopa Slightly better batter, worse pitcher	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Nonexistent
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Kamek battle 3)	Kamek Magic blasts, magic rings (last), Thwomp summons while chasing	Kamek (Red) Adds to magic rings (first), summons giant broom to attack High HP, low HP and SPD	Nonexistent	Kamek (Green) Adds to magic rings (second), DEF, SPD, and POW boosts High POW	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Kamek (White) Adds to magic rings (third), healing Low POW
Puzzle & Dragons SMB	Blue Magikoopa/Blue Kamek Water attribute	Red Magikoopa/Red Kamek Fire attribute	Yellow Magikoopa/Yellow Kamek Light attribute	Green Magikoopa/Green Kamek Wood attribute	Purple Magikoopa/Purple Kamek Dark attribute	Nonexistent	Nonexistent
Mario Sports Superstars	Magikoopa Good hitting and speed, average fielding and stamina	Red Magikoopa Good hitting and stamina, average fielding, poor speed	Yellow Magikoopa Similar to normal Magikoopa	Green Magikoopa Similar to normal Magikoopa	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Nonexistent
M&LSS+BM (Bowser Jr's Journey)	Magikoopa (Blue) Magic blasts, fly	Magikoopa (Red) Magic blasts, POW boosts	Nonexistent	Magikoopa (Green) Magic blasts, ACCUR boosts	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Magikoopa (White) Magic blasts, SPD boosts
M&LBIS+BJJ (Minion Quest)	Kamek Magic blasts, flies, is a captain	Magikoopa (Red) Magic blasts, POW boosts	Nonexistent	Magikoopa (Green) Magic blasts, SPD boosts	Nonexistent	Nonexistent	Magikoopa (White) Magic blasts, DEF boosts

...there's still no tried-and-true consistency. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:17, September 3, 2020 (EDT)