Talk:Banana

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Merge Triple Bananas and Giant Banana into the general Banana article

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I read the articles and Triple Bananas are the same as a single Banana, and The Banana article already explains about Giant Bananas (in the Mario Kart Double Dash section, so I propose we combine them into one article.

Proposer: Red Shell 68066vr (talk) Deadline: 12 February 20:00 Extended:20 February 20:00 Merge Both articles Red Shell 68066vr (talk) Per proposal. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Yes it won't be a bad idea to merge them since the Banana article talks about them to. Zero signing out. Walkazo (talk) - Seeing as other similar items (i.e. Triple Green Shells into plain Green Shell) have been merged to cut back on repetition, save space and streamline navigation, merging the Bananas sounds like the next logical step. Reversinator (talk) Per all. Merge only Triple Bananas Coincollector (talk) - But with a condition in my comment below. Merge only Giant Banana Leave unmerged Comments OK, I don't think that this proposal is right because we have the Banana Bunch article and the triple bananas seem to fit perfectly in it. As for the Giant Banana, I you think that should be merged with the (normal) banana article, then you should merge the other giant variants into their corresponding normal-items' articles as well (IE: Giant Green Shell, Giant Bob-omb, etc). ¢oincoll€ctor That's what I said at the Giant Ninji proposal. It seems more consistent and will knock off a stub at the same time!--FREAK ~Game Freak~ OUT! But aren't Banana Bunches and Triple Bananas different things? --Garlic Man (talk) There is a talk page proposal. It's here: Talk:Banana Bunch. Red Shell 68066vr (talk)

Mario Kart Bananas

I've discovered that, in Mario kart Wii and DS, triple bananas are a good defensive item, seeing as you can survive three shells and still be going at a constant speed J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Split Banana and Banana Bunch

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Bananas are single items, different from 5 or 10 bananas in one. They are found in different areas, and they are worth more than one. I honestly think this should have it's own page. I also know that Banana Bunch is not a section on this page, but it redirects to here.

Proposer: DKPetey99 (talk) Deadline: June 26, 2011, 23:59 GMT Split DKPetey99 (talk) I want to split Banana from Banana Bunch. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) they are different items who appear quite a bit in different games, on a side not we should split giant Banana with Bananas yoshiyoshiyoshi (talk) They are kind of like Blue Coins from Super Mario 64.No reason for them to be merged. SWFlash (talk) Per proposal Keep Mario4Ever (talk) Banana Bunches are merely bananas that happen to be grouped together. That is not a significant enough reason to support their separation from the Banana article. Zero777 (talk) Per Walkazo (talk) - Per Mario4Ever. The triple banana and Giant Banana had less in common with normal bananas, but they were still merged. Keeping them all together cuts back on redundant, repetitive articles. UltraMario3000 (talk) Per MalleoFooreEvahr. Superfiremario (talk) Per Mario4Ever. Supremo78 (talk) Per M4E. There is no reason for a pretty much stub article (a bad thing) to be added, for just really what they are is about 5-10 bananas together. Same things really. Reddragon19k (talk) PA! (That's short for per all) Xzelion (talk) – Per all. Comments Oh, don't forget! Two weeks is the proposal time!!Reddragon19k 16:37, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

Banana and Banana Peel

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Why are these merged? Bananas and Banana Peels are two completely different things.Bananas from the Donkey Kong series are like coins,are not opened,and don't have a face.Banana Peels from the Mario Kart series are completely different.They serve as obstacles and they look different too.They arent even bananas,theyre just the peels.These were never intended to be the same thing.As LGM said,Bananas are used for various reasons,while Banana Peels are always used to slip people.

Proposer: yoshiyoshiyoshi (talk) Deadline: June 27, 2011, 23:59 GMT Split Keep Merged LeftyGreenMario (talk) Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Party, Mario comics, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Tennis, Mario Strikers, and Mario Sports Mix have banana peels. Donkey Kong games, Mario Party, Yoshi Story, WarioWario, and Super Mario Sunshine have bananas not used to slip people. It's too complicated. Bananas are used as a way to get coins in DK minigames, but they can be also used as obstacles in the same games (Mass A-Peel is a great example). You are using a general solution to fix something complicated. Mario Kart 64's item's picture is a full banana anyway. Mario4Ever (talk) Per LGM. Reddragon19k (talk) Per all! Stay merged! UltraMario3000 (talk) Per LaeftehGraenMalleo. Superfiremario (talk) Per all. Walkazo (talk) - Per LeftyGreenMario. Banana peels are just, well, peeled bananas; it makes the most sense to write about all their appearances in one place, rather than forcing people to toggle back and forth to get all their banana-related info. Xzelion (talk) – Per all. Comments This is the an article on bananas in general. If you're going to split the two based on function, you may as well split everything else. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:32, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

Split Giant Banana and Banana

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Giant Bananas have official names appear in multiple games and on top of that split off into multiple bananas when hit i don't see any reason why they are merged with regular bananas and i think they should be split much like how Giant Bob-omb is split from Bob-omb they are different items with similar effects but they are not the same.

Proposer: Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)
Deadline: July 3, 2011, 23:59 GMT July 10, 2011, 23:59 GMT July 17, 2011, 23:59 GMT July 24, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Split

1. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) who votes against there own proposal.
2. UltraMario3000 (talk) Per the size 15 Goomba shoes.
3. Nicke8 (talk) Per Gs15.
4. Arend (talk) Per the fact we have articles about giant enemies.
5. Iamthedude (talk) Per Arend. If we're gonna have articles about those giant enemies, which behave the same except they're bigger, why not have a seperate article about a giant item that DOESN'T work the same as it's smaller counterpart.
6. MarioMaster720 (talk) Per Arend.
7. Shadow34 (talk) Per Arend.
8. Bowser jrs number 1 fan (talk) Per all besides there different items
9. Mario Bros.! (talk) Per all.

Keep Merged

1. Mario4Ever (talk) A giant banana is still a banana. My reasoning is the same for this as it is for the Banana/Banana Bunch proposal.
2. Dr Javelin (talk) There simply isn't enough info to make a whole article on Giant Bananas.
3. Bowser's luma (talk) Since Banana Bunch and Triple Bananas are merged, this should stay merged.
4. Reddragon19k (talk) Sorry, I like it merged! Per all 3!
5. Xzelion (talk) – Per all.
6. Walkazo (talk) - Per all; per the TPP that originally merged the pages.
7. Mariomaster228 (talk) - Per all. A seperate Giant Banana article would just be another stub.
8. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) - Per all, and the original TPP.
9. Supremo78 (talk) - Like M4E said, they're still bananas, and should stay in the article.

Comments

@Mario4Ever yes a giant banana but is Climbing Koopa not a Koopa Troopa the answer is yes but they aint merged Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

The reason Climbing Koopa is split because they have completely different attack patterns. The only difference Giant Bananas have is that they are bigger, block most hits, and split into three when run upon. Ray Trace^(T|C)

Side note i am in no position to make this article if this TPP passes for i own exactly zero games that the giant banana is in Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

Then you should not have proposed it. Rule 11: The original proposer (underlined here for emphasis) must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help. Mario4Ever (talk)

In the interest of preventing his ignorance of the rules from leading to this proposal's failure, I will volunteer to write the article for him, if such is necessary to carry out the proposal. I have had the game giant banana appears in for about 6 years now, so I should think I have sufficient knowledge to write the article. Iamthedude

My apologies, GS15. I forgot the margin of victory rule, and proceeded to write an article immediately when I saw that nobody else had voted, leaving the score 7-6 in favor of split, causing me to believe it was passed. Iamthedude

Also, is there a rule for this situation? there has not been a vote in 12 days. the consensus is SLIGHTLY in favor of split. However, if we wait for one side to get 3 votes ahead, we need at least 2 votes, and that becomes at least 4 if one of them is an "oppose" vote. that could take a while.. we needed 2 weeks just to get the first 13 votes, and you can expect the next few to take a lot longer, especially after the 12-day pause in voting (because you can assume nobody who has an opinion has seen it in the last 12 days except the 13 of us.)
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iamthedude (talk).

No, but the deadline can only be extended one more time. If there's still no clear majority, the proposal fails by default. It's always possible that more users will vote before it comes to that, however. - Walkazo 16:25, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

I just noticed Dr. Javelin and Mario Master voted to oppose because they believed it would create a stub. if you'll look on the Giant Banana Redirect page, in the history, you'll see I accidentally wrote an article for it early, because I forgot about the clear majority rule. as you can see for yourself, 3 1/2 inches of writing can be made on this subject, and that's on my computer, which has a wider screen than most, making the article seem shorter than it actually is.. I dont know where the cut-off for stubs is, but this is a good bit longer than most of the stuff I've seen labeled as stubs. Iamthedude

...I still don't understand why people don't get the meaning of "stub" -_- Ray Trace^(T|C)

To whom it may concern: A stub is an article that, regardless of length, either lacks information or concerns a subject about which little information can be provided. This latter case generally applies in situations in which it is difficult to provide information to sufficiently differentiate two subjects, that is, their similarity makes it difficult to prevent an article from being a rehash of another in terms of content (such as this situation). Mario4Ever (talk)

@BabyLuigiOnFire well, excuse me for thinking we were using the common meaning of the word stub, which is synonymous with unusually short. I just noticed that all the stub articles I had seen were very short and assumed that was the case

@Mario4Ever: and as you can see on this page: [[1]] there is enough information that you cannot just say that it is the same as a regular banana. Here are some examples of differences: Only 4 characters can access it, it has a different facial expression, can be used to completely block narrow paths, splits into 3 smaller bananas when destroyed, has more slow-down effect than normal banana, blocks green and red shells without breaking. as you can see, there are at least 6 Differences between banana and Giant banana. if that isnt enough to say that it wouldn't just be a rehash, I really dont know what you're looking for.Iamthedude