Talk:Kaptain Skurvy

Consider him to be a Kannon

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Current time: Monday, November 4, 2024, 04:53 GMT

Both Klumps, both pirates, similar appearances.

Kaptain Skurvy is a character who appears in everyone's favorite cartoon, Donkey Kong Country. Jokes aside, he is a Kremling pirate who happens to share his model with General Klump, who is based on the Klump enemies. An episode even reveals they are brothers! Now the DKC cartoon is divorced from the game series it adapts, but it's not like they don't include certain elements from the games. For example, most Kremlings make an appearance, although Kritters and Klaptraps are the only ones who are referred to by name. Kremlings are generically referred to as crocodiles in the show. Klump and Krusha are singular members of the enemies they are based on. As a result, the show never directly states Kaptain Skurvy is indeed a Kannon. However, I am at least certain Skurvy is supposed to be based or inspired by them. Firstly, the show was released after the first two games were released and the show uses elements from both games, notably, Dixie Kong appears in it, so the idea the people working on it were given reference sheets of the various Kremling enemies, including Kannon isn't unlikely. But my big piece of evidence goes to design. For one, there hasn't been a case where Klumps wearing pirate clothes is a normal thing, like how Lakitus occasionally use fishing poles, as only Kannons have shown that behavior. As for Skurvy's design, it's mostly pretty faithful. His pirate hat is pretty close. Sure, it uses a Kremling skull and not a human one, but that honestly makes sense as a design point and could be a reference to the Gangplank Galleon's flag design (it's also the emblem of Skurvy's ship). He even has earrings! His belt does look slightly different and his boots are not as big, but the show also has a habit of not being 1:1 on designs either; just look at the Kritters or the Klaptraps for instance. These aren't the same models used in the games, but rather rough recreations of them. He also uses a hand cannon (watch "Legend of the Crystal Coconut") which while not a large cannon, is meant to reference the fact that Kannons used large cannons. As I mentioned earlier, the show has a lot of creative licenses.

My point is that Kaptain Skurvy, based on circumstantial evidence, is supposed to be based on a Kannon and is presumably not a coincidence. The show did come out after the first games were released, so it's not like the creators probably came up with a generic pirate design for a Klump character to wear. While the show never refers to him as such and doesn't give him the name Kannon, not all enemy characters have names based on who they are and the show rarely uses on-point names for these subjects, aside from the aforementioned Kritters and Klaptraps. The goal of this proposal is to consider Kaptain Skurvy to be a Kannon and change his species from Klump to Kannon, as well as stating that Kaptain Skurvy is somewhat based on them. I can't think of too many counterarguments I could get, other than there isn't hard evidence that Kaptain Skurvy isn't based on one and sure, we don't have internal documents stating he was based on one. In that case, oppose the proposal.

Proposer: TheUndescribableGhost (talk)
Deadline: July 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. TheUndescribableGhost (talk) Per proposal, matey!

Oppose

1. Hewer (talk) Mention the similarities sure, but I'd rather we didn't delve into speculation and definitively state that he is a Kannon when it's not officially confirmed, same reason I opposed the recent Grifty and Podley proposals.
2. PrincessPeachFan (talk) Pure speculation.
3. FanOfYoshi (talk) Speculation.

Comments

Speculation pure and simple. He just looks like that because of the art in the show and it was never confirmed either. I deleted what the Supper Mario Broth thinks that the lyrics are for the Battery from Paper Mario: Color Splash because it contradicts what's given in-game. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 12:43, July 1, 2024 (EDT)

What do you mean by, "because of the art in the show?" I don't think what the opposition is saying is completely invalid; they are making good points. I just don't understand what this argument means exactly. Like, the artstyle accidently makes him look like that? I mean, there is an episode where DK becomes a pirate and the assets there don't appear to be the same as Skurvy's. Maybe there's an episode where that belt texture was used? I did try to do some research and did see that the boots on Klump do happen to be the same as Skurvy's, so there's that. TheUndescribableGhost (talk) 20:24, July 1, 2024 (EDT)