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#{{User:YellowYoshi398/sig}} – We shouldn't go too in-depth, but a quick walkthrough strikes me as fine. | #{{User:YellowYoshi398/sig}} – We shouldn't go too in-depth, but a quick walkthrough strikes me as fine. | ||
#{{User:Stumpers/sig}} Hmm... I'm all for getting rid of the "yous" and all of that, but seriously, that stuff is describing the level. In my opinion, you should only delete what you can rewrite if the information is true. ...and the walkthrough data is true. So what do you do? You describe it and say "how Mario got through it." and now how the player should do it. | #{{User:Stumpers/sig}} Hmm... I'm all for getting rid of the "yous" and all of that, but seriously, that stuff is describing the level. In my opinion, you should only delete what you can rewrite if the information is true. ...and the walkthrough data is true. So what do you do? You describe it and say "how Mario got through it." and now how the player should do it. | ||
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Revision as of 01:12, September 28, 2007
A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~). How To
The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights). So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours. New FeaturesAdd Banjo-Kazooie ArtcilesThe RecentAdd Banjo - Conker Articles proposer was denied, mainly because of Conker. People thought that he was either too mature, or too hfar removed. Banjo however, has no such problems. His games have all been rated E so far, and the inclusion of Tiptup in Diddy Kong Racing, Diddy Kong Racing DS, Banjo-Kazooie, and Banjo-Tooie, Seems to me worthy to merit Babjo for inclusion on this wiki. As previously stated, Tiptup's appearence in BK - BT was not a cameo- he was alive , and tangible. Nor was it a simple cross-over: Banjo's first appearence was DKR, making the series a SPINOFF of Mario. Other series that included Mario characters/enemies (LoZ,F-Zero, Tetris....) were made with there title characters first appearing in one of there own games. Sooo... vote, and all. Proposer: UltimateToad Add Banjo Articles
Keep Them Out
CommentsRemovalsChangesIt's not just AmericaThis is something that upsets me greatly almost everywhere, not just on this site; people seem to assume that the only place where games are released in English is America. In most of the profiles here, things are said to have happened in "the American version." I want this stopped; it's not fair on other English-speaking countries. It should be refferred to as the "English version," or at the very least, "the American and European version." Proposer: Davidk92 Support
Oppose
Comments"Representing"Many articles say they look similar or represent when just because they are the same representing species. For an example, Sidestepper's trivia says that they resemble Dovo, however they don't. Dovos do not like anything like a Sidestepper, and they probably weren't even remembering Sidesteppers when making the game. Sure, some represent other things, but not most of them. I'm saying to remove the trivia that says that they represent these that aren't truly representing. Proposper: Minimariolover10 Support
Oppose
CommentsYes, I know, but in some cases it isn't connecting. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!And about it not being worthy, I want other users to know SOME don't look similar so they could clear it if another doing this job is missing it.
Subsized CategorysEvery once in a while, a category that can have too few enteries shows up. Such as Category:X-Naut's Weapons (Though it's deleted), so I think that those should be prevented like stub articles. Proposer: Lario Prevent Them
Keep Them
CommentsI think we should just do a case by case basis, like new articles. We ask: "Is there enough for its inclusion?" There's no way to prevent someone from creating categories - we just have to decide if they are needed when it happens. I don't think this proposal can do much, so I am not voting either way. -- Son of Suns
Improvement Drive IdeaI think we should have a project similar to Featured Articles and the Pipe Plaza, where, instead of pointing out the best articles, we point out the ones that need Work, so users can all work on one project, instead of everyone editing the "featured article" status ones, and leaving articles like Doopliss un-edited. The process would be similar to Featured Articles. We make a new page about the project, where we come together and list the articles we think are shortest, but have potential. Then, we might make a box on the main page to show what the article is. Each article will get one week on the main page, again, similar to Featured Articles. I know no-one may say yes cause I'm not someone who edits, but I think this would help users, ecspecially new users, who may be nervous making an article. This does not mean we will have stub articles, and I frankly think this project will prevent them. Proposer: Max2 Give it a Try
Nah
CommentsAre you thinking about something like MarioWiki: PAIR; or an Improvement Drive, where we pick one article a week or month, feature it somewhere and encourage all users to work on it? Or are you thinking something else? It would be nice to get a better sense of what you are thinking, cause I am all for helping users getting active and making improvements. -- Son of Suns Yeah, an Improvement Drive. That's exactly what I mean! Max2 (talk) Okay. I think you need to clarify some points. You should state above what this would entaiil exactly. For starters, you can answer these questions and put them in the proposal itself. Would users vote for an article to be improved (the one with the most votes gets featured)? Would the article be featured for a week, a month, etc.? And would the article be featured on the main page (like, This Week (or month)'s Collaboration is: so and so) with a link to that page? -- Son of Suns Ok. Is this clarified enough? Max2 (talk) I added descriptions of the aspects of the project, how to set it up, and why I think it would work.
Well, as most users say, the goal for every article would be to become an FA. i'm ont saying we only improve articles that can be FA articles, this is mainly just to cut back on stubs and short articles. Max2 (talk)
It seems to be sort of popular with the crowd. Except Plumber. Max2 (talk)
I wish more people knew about MarioWiki at MFGG, then we'd sure get a lot of new users! Though I hope kingmetroid doesn't come. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!! While many simillar idea have all been tried (and failed miserably.), this one seem to actually have a decent following, why not give it a try? Glowsquid I guess I would. or let someone else take over it if they want. And, Xz, this wouldn't fail. We might not get every article up to like FA Status, but people will work on it. I also know me being in charge was likely a "no" factor, and I'm not saying to change your vote, only that the whole thing is actually well thought out and simple enough that anybody could join in on it. Max2 (talk) Walkthrougth-style level article.Most article about level's are fine, however a few (BLIZZARD!!! is a big offender.) read like something out of a player guide. Level articles should state:
This is an encyclopedia, an article shouldn't tell where to find that last Flower or how to defeat Koin. If I want that kind of information, I'll go on Gamefaq. Proposer: Glowsquid Prevent the creation of that kind of article and rewrite those already here.
Allow the creation of this style of article.
CommentsSoS: There is a distinction betweeen describing what happen in a level and telling the reader what to do. Describing how the level jump from a fortress theme to a lava theme, forest theme... ect and what happen in each portion is interessing and encyclopedic. However, telling the reader how to get the DK Coin hiden by the Zinger in Castle Crush isn't encyclopedic. How is the fact that the fith Red Coin can only be accessed by geting the key and killing the Coin Bandit behind the door encyclopedic and revalent to the Marioverse? I agree we should describe in-depth, but we shouldn't go overboard. Sincerely, Glowsquid
Also, if we just ignore this, the Wiki will be scrap full because of some levels not like this, while a bunch are, making it a mess! We must get rid of all walkthrough to make it seem more perfersonal, like Wikipedia itself. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!! Lario: Not really, a level article can be detailed without having to read like a walkthrought. I think I'll do an example. Detailled Style (Note, all of this is amde up.): "Grab these Coins!" is the sixth level of World 2 in Yoshi's Revenge. The level initially start out in a castle filled with lava, however, the subsequent section take place in a cave full of Bandits." ect. Walthrought-style: "Yoshi should jump on the raillift paltfrom above to gain acces to a bunch of red-coins, try to avoid the jumping sparky and try to defeat all the Fly-Guys holding the red-coins. Then, jump on all the Para-Troopa to get the flower..." ect. (I think you get the idea.) See? You can have plenty of info without making it seem like a walkthrought. - Glowsquid I am striking my vote through, so it won't count in the end, but I want my original reasonings to stay. Also, others agree with my original assessment, that a walkthrough style article is fine, and their votes are still valid. As Glowsquid stated, articles like this won't be deleted on sight, so I don't mind what the wiki decides on how these articles are written. I doesn't matter to me whether they are walkthrough style or not, just as long as they are not deleted. -- Son of Suns Merges and SplitsRecipes PagesAlmost all of the Recipe Articles are short and state:
All which would be included in a table. Table shown here, Credit to SpikeKnifeNeedleSword for the design. This would work such as the Badges page. Lets face it they're too minor and too many of them. Proposer: Merge
Keep Separate
CommentsSon of Sun: Your example would be a little more convincing if you didn't purposely choose a stub. For normal items, you can talk about were they are found, if they are revallant to the plot (Like the Dried Shroom) ,how you can obtain them apart for beating up random enemy, and how they can be used for cooking. For a recipe, you simply say which item can be used for cooking them and their effects, deffinately a table job IMO. Glowsquid I think there's been some confusion between recipes and food items. As far as I know, Recipes are "Item 1 + Item 2 = Item 3", not the food items involved, which is what seems to be the common belief (Food Items are even categorized as Recipies, which makes no sence). I'll use the Dried Shroom article to highlight my point: The text part is about the item Dried Shroom, and the "Recipes" secion is a list of the recipes it's used in. Make a list of the recipes, but keep the articles about the items. - Walkazo Look at the Shroom Steak article. There's numerous ways to make one. If we were to list all possible ways of making each item, the chart would be huge. Also, a list makes it harder to describe items in detail, such as is it worth the money to cook, or is it unworthy, and should only be made once just for the recipe log? Booster There are problems on with both solutions. The current way, we have a high number of articles that are just a few words shy of stub-status (EX: Fried Shroom). The other way, we end up with a handful of very, very long articles (EX: Shroom Steak). We need to find a middle ground. -- List of Mario Kart SponsorSome day ago, Wayoshi deleted an article about Wario Mall, an organization briefly mentioned on a spot in Mario:Kart DS. The Mario Kart series is FULL of random sponsors. I thought we could create a list of these organization of one page, since they do exist, but aren't major enough to have their own articles. Proposer: Glowsquid Create that list
NayCommentsI've gathered up most of the things. Though, I probably missed some, including Wario Mall. But a huge in order (except for Nintendo and Mario Kart) is:
Is this most of it? I went trough EVERY course and try looking for them. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!! Do'h! I forgot. These are the only ones I found in Mario Kart DS. Sorry! I know they're more! File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!! I could try looking for adds in Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (I already do it for fun anyway), but that's the only Mario Kary game I have other than DS. - Walkazo Do it! And don't pic random order, do it in order, because the past stuff in Mario Kart DS don't advertise. Maybe my bro SonicMario and I can do race to double search in Mario Kart 64. Does anyone have Super Circuit or the first one? File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!
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because there have got to be more. There's no adverts in Super Circuit b/c the stages are flat, just like the original. I just wanna say thanks for going through all of this :) Stumpers! O rly? OK. Now Double Dash, 64, and finish Mario Kart DS. File:MiniMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!! I've seen one thats not on that list in mario kart 64: koopa air.Super Yoshi 10. Should I add it?Super Yoshi 10 MiscellaneousPers, I agrees...Okay every time I go on here I noticed several users say "Per ___" "I agree" or "___ is right" but I think these shouldn't be said all the time because whoever say those are to lazy to think of something. Proposer: Mr. Guy Prevent constant these
Just let them
CommentsAnd by the way, you shouldn't call others "lazy" when you're not adding a "Comment" headline, not making a line break, not even filling in the deadline. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 10:41, 25 September 2007 (EDT) |
I think it's a great idea, and could work.
