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#{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}} Well, technically, it is the same console. Only a redesign, and no 3D. You can't say much about it in a separate article, anyway. | #{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}} Well, technically, it is the same console. Only a redesign, and no 3D. You can't say much about it in a separate article, anyway. | ||
#{{User|Scr7}} Per Baby Luigi | #{{User|Scr7}} Per Baby Luigi | ||
#{{User|Glowsquid}} The premise of this proposal is "It's not the same console". The 2DS functionally ''is'' the same console, just lacking the obvious feature. It's as much of a separate system as the Wii mini. | |||
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Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
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If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.
How to
If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
Rules
- Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
- Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
- Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
- If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
- Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
- If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal formatting
Below is an example of what your proposal must look like. If you are unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. When updating the bracketed variables with actual information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]=== [describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue] '''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br> '''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT ====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]==== #{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal] ====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]==== ====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To vote for an option, just insert #{{User|[your username here]}}
at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal".
Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Move Shadow (character) to Shadow (Sonic the Hedgehog) (discuss) Deadline: December 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Move "Rare Ltd." to "Rareware" or "Rare" (discuss) Deadline: December 25, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Make changes to List of Smash Taunt characters (discuss) Deadline: December 27, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Tighten Category:Deceased characters (discuss) Deadline: December 27, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Cascading Stone, vanishing platform, and moon platform with Falling Platform (discuss) Deadline: December 28, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Add to-do tasks on the Main Page (discuss) Deadline: January 1, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Rename the NES Template (discuss) Deadline: January 4, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Merge the list of show hosts in All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros. (discuss) Deadline: January 4, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split the theme songs from the list of Donkey Kong Country (television series) songs (discuss) Deadline: January 5, 2025, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024) |
Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024) |
- ^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024) |
Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024) |
Use the classic and classic-link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024) |
Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024) |
Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024) |
Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024) |
Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024) |
Allow English names from closed captions, Koopa con Carne (ended November 12, 2024) |
- ^ NOTE: A number of names coming from closed captions are listed here.
Split off the Mario Kart Tour template(s), MightyMario (ended November 24, 2024) |
Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024) |
Talk page proposals
Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021) |
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022) |
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024) |
Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024) |
Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024) |
Expand and rename List of characters by game to List of characters by first appearance, Hewer (ended November 20, 2024) |
Determine how to handle the Tattle Log images from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch), Technetium (ended November 30, 2024) |
Merge False Character and Fighting Polygon/Wireframe/Alloy/Mii Teams into List of Super Smash Bros. series bosses, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended December 2, 2024) |
List of Talk Page Proposals
- Merge Mario Stadium (Itadaki Street DS) with Mario Stadium (baseball stadium) (Discuss) Deadline: October 18, 2013, 23:59 GMT. Passed.
- Delete Category:Characters Named for their Species (Discuss) Deadline: October 20, 2013, 23:59 GMT. Passed.
- Split "Propeller Box" from the Propeller Block article (Discuss) Deadline: October 25, 2013, 23:59 GMT
- Split Template:Fakelink from Mario Kart (series) (Discuss) Deadline: October 26, 2013, 23:59 GMT
Writing Guidelines
Create writing guideline for reception and sales sections
- Draft: User:Glowsquid/Brain Palace
Another week, another writing guideline! Kids love those, right?
Anyway, the few sections about the critical and commercial performance of a given game have no consistent format and they are (as usual for "real world" subjects) rather weak. As such, I think it would be a good idea to create a guideline page to give an idea of how they should be organised and pointers on how to write them.
I've made a draft for such a guideline page here. I've been told it looks ok. What do you think?
Proposer: Glowsquid (talk)
Deadline: November 3, 2013, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Glowsquid (talk) - per proposal
- YoshiKong (talk) – Par propusel.
- Iggy Koopa Jr (talk) I think it's fine.
- Yoshi876 (talk) Per proposal.
- Scr7 (talk) Por prapasal.
- Tucayo (talk) - Per Glowsquid.
- Icemario11 (talk) - Per proposal and Baby Luigi's comment.
- Ultra Koopa (talk) - Per Baby Luigi's comment. The table makes everything more organized.
Oppose
Comments
Maybe we could use Wikipedia as inspiration as what to the reception section looks like? This looks nicely organized, and it has a great table to boot. Before y'all shoot me down for saying, "WE'RE NOT WIKI PEDIA BLAH BLAH BLAH" at least take my suggestion into consideration: there's a reason they do this and I don't see why not: I like the nicely organized table and I think it would improve the section more. Baby Luigi (talk)
- It looks great!--Megadardery (talk) 17:09, 20 October 2013 (EDT)
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
Split Nintendo 2DS from Nintendo 3DS
It's not the same console right? The Nintendo 2DS should have it's own article because it's a video game console.
Proposer: Randombob-omb4761 (talk)
Deadline: October 28, 2013, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Randombob-omb4761 (talk) Per Proposal.
- Walkazo (talk) - How is the lack of the iconic stereoscopic 3D technology of the Nintendo 3DS not a significant hardware difference? It seems pretty radical to me - a far cry from a mere change in size (GB Micro) or shape (GBA SP). Plus it got its own unique name, rather than having something affixed like the other remodels, and it's just plain interesting: readers could easily type in "Nintendo 2DS" in hopes we have a page - that hope is not unreasonable. Obviously the page won't have a list of games and whatnot, but Wikipedia's 2DS page is still pretty beefy without that sorta stuff, and we could easily make a read-worthy page here too.
Oppose
- Baby Luigi (talk) The reason we split Nintendo DSi from Nintendo DS and Game Boy Color from Game Boy because they have significant hardware differences. The Nintendo 2DS is simply a redesign of the 3DS, much like the Game Boy Micro and Game Boy Advance SP from the Game Boy Advance and the Nintendo DS Lite from the Nintendo DS (my god I put too much links)
- Yoshi876 (talk) Per Baby Luigi.
- Icemario11 (talk) Per Baby Luigi.
- Kingfawful4321 (talk) Per Baby Luigi.
- Megadardery (talk) It doesn't have many information, and like BLOF said: it is just a redesign, no changes in the hardware.
- Iggy Koopa Jr (talk) Well, technically, it is the same console. Only a redesign, and no 3D. You can't say much about it in a separate article, anyway.
- Scr7 (talk) Per Baby Luigi
- Glowsquid (talk) The premise of this proposal is "It's not the same console". The 2DS functionally is the same console, just lacking the obvious feature. It's as much of a separate system as the Wii mini.
Comments
Miscellaneous
None at the moment.