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As you created the chat (I'm Italian wiki)--[[User:Wariomoto|Wariomoto]] ([[User talk:Wariomoto|talk]]) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (EDT)
As you created the chat (I'm Italian wiki)--[[User:Wariomoto|Wariomoto]] ([[User talk:Wariomoto|talk]]) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (EDT)
:We use [[MediaWiki.org:Extension:WebChat|this WebChat extension]] along with our IRC rooms. --{{User:Porplemontage/sig}} 17:20, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

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New Super Mario Bros. series

Seeing as there are now four New Super Mario Bros. games, should there be a page for the subseries? Pokemega32 06:56, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

We should, seeing as that we have series articles for the Mario Baseball and Mario Strikers series, despite both of them currently only have two games in the series. GreenDisaster 07:25, 8 June 2012 (EDT)
Apples and oranges. The NSMB series is an extension of the core Super Mario platformer series: split it out and you have to split out the original SMB series, figure out what to do with SMW and SM3DL, and decide whether to include SMG and SMG2 in with the direct-sequel-less 3D platformers or give it its own subseries (and if you include remakes, SMA and SMAS would need addressing too). It's a very slippery slope. By comparison, even if there's only two of each, the Baseball and Strikers titles are completely unique from any other sports title. The only way you could not have them exist as series is by collapsing all the sports games into one mega subseries, but given the number of Tennis and Golf games, that would make organization an inefficient mess. Another thing to consider is that once you have series pages, that means rearranging the Histories too, which would be a huge undertaking, and would necessitate moving a lot of the core series info way far down the Histories. Seeing as these games are the backbone of Mario franchise as a whole, keeping them together, as high as possible on the pages, makes far more sense. Reorganizing Super Mario (series) to lump the different Super Mario branches might be a good idea, however, as long as there's still a bullet-point list at the top showing the straight chronological order of all of 'em, or something like that. - Walkazo 20:47, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Concerning the trivia section.

"Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! (pictured) is the first game in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series which Pauline is giving a voice."

Not only is this grammatically incorrect, it's also wrong. When Donkey Kong '94 was played on Super Game Boy, Pauline's cries of "help!" could be heard in a digitized voice. It doesn't work on emulators, but I recall seeing a video of it some time ago which I can't seem to find again. So if someone else could provide proof, that would be much appreciate it. - SiFi 07:25, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

While she does speak in DK94 (here's proof), the Trivia's about the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series, and DK94 is more of a precursor to the series, so it's not actually wrong. (But the grammar has been fixed.) - Walkazo 18:55, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

Organization of Games?

I'll like to know how are the games in character articles are organized? Like are they organized alphabetically or chronologically or something else? Zero777 (talk)

History sections are chronological, but grouped by series; if there's a stand-alone game or if only one game in a series appears, don't bother with a series sub-header. Templates are supposed to be purely chronological, with any series-wide template being placed at the point in which the series first appears. Categories are alphabetical. Non-game-based templates and categories go before the game-based templates and categories, except for merchandise-based categories, which go at the very bottom. Here's a (hypothetical) comparison chart:

           

History
  • Super Mario series
    • Super Mario Bros. - 1985
    • Super Mario World - 1990
    • New Super Mario Bros. - 2006  
    • Super Mario Galaxy - 2007
  • Mario is Missing! - 1992
  • Paper Mario - 2000
  • Mario Kart series
    • Mario Kart Wii - 2008
    • Mario Kart 7 - 2011
  • Mario Sports Mix - 2010
Templates
  • {Humans}
  • {Super Mario Bros.} - 1985
  • {Super Mario World} - 1990
  • {Mario is Missing!} - 1992
  • {Paper Mario} - 2000
  • {New Super Mario Bros.} - 2006  
  • {Super Mario Galaxy} - 2007
  • {Mario Kart Wii} - 2008
  • {Mario Kart Series Characters}
  • {Mario Sports Mix} - 2010
  • {Mario Kart 7} - 2011
Categories
  • Humans
  • Mario is Missing! Characters
  • Mario Sports Mix Characters
  • Mario Kart 7 Characters
  • Mario Kart Wii Characters
  • New Super Mario Bros. Characters
  • Paper Mario Characters
  • Super Mario Bros. Characters
  • Super Mario Galaxy Characters
  • Super Mario World Characters
  • Chess Pieces
All this applies to all types of appearances, not just games: in other words, movies, comics, books and TV shows would all be mixed in with the games in the Histories, templates and categories. And just in case you're wondering, cameos go at the bottoms of History pages (under an overall "Cameos" subheader), and a "Background" section is sometimes included at the top, i.e. for characters that had history as babies (such as Bowser, who also has a "Cameos" section, by the way), or one-off characters who have backstory set before their game starts (like the Shadow Queen). There can even be a "Creation"/"Creation and Development" section placed before the History section, which covers the characters Real Life history; Luigi has an example of this sort of section. Finally, for the record, the polices themselves can be found here for the Histories, here for the Templates, and here for the Categories. - Walkazo 20:59, 19 June 2012 (EDT)
But wait! What about {Mario Party Characters}? king bill in position MEGAMUSHROOM82 that's me MP
I didn't use Mario Party in my example, so that's not applicable. It also wouldn't be a proper template if it even existed: templates should be about everything in a game, not just one aspect, and templates about one aspect across an entire series are also highly dissuaded (I just included a "MK Series Characters" template in my example to show how the odd acceptable series-wide template would be placed). - Walkazo 20:53, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

False trivia

Henry Ford did not create the automobile; that machine was first created by German engineers in the mid 1870s. It should be noted that Henry's name is based on the misconception that the car was invented by Henry Ford. BNK [E|T|C] 23:34, 14 July 2012 (EDT)

Good call: I tried to make it a bit more historically accurate - Walkazo 20:03, 15 July 2012 (EDT)

New section

Hello mario wiki staff i couldnt help but notice that your news paper doesnt have a comic section i figured i could partake in said missing section i(think) i have a preview for your viewing eyes


[[File:C:\Documents and Settings\Malik Due\My Documents\M&L TIP\Delfino airstrip
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marioman64100 (talk).

You mean File:Mario and luigi ep 1-1.PNG? I was under the impression that they do have a comic, but either way, if you want to contribute to The 'Shroom, you have to talk to The 'Shroom staff: their names are listed here. - Walkazo 18:19, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

it should be mentioned

I realized that nowhere mentions that Donkey Kong is a reference to King Kong.

also in the original Donkey Kong game, the ape kidnaps pauline and takes her to the top of a building (which is under construction), similar to how king kong did
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonickirbyfanno7np10 (talk).

Actually, the storyline of Donkey Kong was originally based off of Popeye. King Kong's influence was mostly an afterthought.--Vommack (talk) 19:25, 12 August 2012 (EDT)
oh! well shouldn't that be mentioned?


The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonickirbyfanno7np10 (talk).

Please sign your comments, I probably should be mentioned.Fuzzy in New Super Mario Bros. UYoshiGo99Artwork of a Yoshi egg on a tilt. It is unknown whether this artwork was released with a certain game or not.

Mushroom Arena

Why don't we make an arena like SmashWiki and Donkey Kong Wiki!!! The Awesome 12:48, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Chat

As you created the chat (I'm Italian wiki)--Wariomoto (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

We use this WebChat extension along with our IRC rooms. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 17:20, 27 August 2012 (EDT)