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Split Waluigi (Super Mario Land 2: 6-tsu no Kinka 2)

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Current time: Wednesday, January 29, 2025, 10:11 GMT

Like Warudeijī from the same volume of the Kodansha adaptation of Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins, it's an evil alter ego of an existing character. I'm using the same argument as the one from my Warudeijī proposal, this character should see a split since Bowser's alter egos from the same manga series have separate articles from Bowser. They have the same Japanese name as Waluigi (even the exact same characters), so their name could be Waluigi (X) given precedence of directly translating some Japanese names that lack official English romanization or Waruīji (with or without an identifier) if going by Mekakuppa.

Proposer: Pizza Master (talk)
Deadline: January 30, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Support (Split as Waluigi (Super Mario Land 2: 6-tsu no Kinka 2))

1. Pizza Master (talk) Per.

Support (Split as Waluigi (Super Mario Kodansha manga))

1. Pizza Master (talk) Secondary.
2. Camwoodstock (talk) Personal preference; we haven't really distinguished between issues in these articles, mostly since there hasn't been a need to do so yet. This should be sufficient enough disambiguation.
3. SComic (talk) Per Camwoodstock

Support (Split as simply Waruīji)

1. Pizza Master (talk) Tertiary.
2. LinkTheLefty (talk) We currently use Mekakuppa over Mechakoopa (insert manga identifier). Different subject, different name.
3. Arend (talk) There's no official English name, nor an official romanization of Waruīji.
4. Jdtendo (talk) Per LinkTheLefty and Arend.

Support (Split as Waruīji with an identifier attached like (KC Mario) and Waruīji being a redirect to Waluigi)

1. Pizza Master (talk) Per Arend's comments.

Support (Split as Waluigi (KC Mario))

1. Pizza Master (talk) Per Mariuigi Khed's reasoning in the comments.
2. Mariuigi Khed (talk) proposer, following the logic of "Goro (KC Mario)"
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Secondary option, per Mariuigi Khed.
4. Rykitu (talk) Per Mariuigi Khed

Comments

Do we actually use nested parentheses in identifiers? I think the second option should be "Waluigi (Super Mario Kodansha manga)" rather than "Waluigi (Super Mario (Kodansha manga))", just like we have "Star (Mario Party series)" rather than "Star (Mario Party (series))". Jdtendo^(T|C) 03:53, January 16, 2025 (EST)

When I created the Goro-chan page, I just named it "Goro (KC Mario)". It's still standing with no problems. Just call this Waluigi as "Waluigi (KC Mario)" Mariuigi Khed 04:17, January 16, 2025 (EST)

@Mariuigi Khed @Jdtendo @Camwoodstock I added Waluigi (KC Mario) and changed the identifier in the second option. Thanks for the idea for the fourth option, Mariugi.-- Pizza Master 05:17, January 16, 2025 (EST)

Shouldn't all options be "Waruīji (identifier)" (and the "Waruīji" one without an identifier be a redirect to THE Waluigi) because this evil version of Luigi has no official English name? I mean, your other proposal calls the evil Daisy "Warudeijī" instead of "Warudaisy", so uh... rend (talk) (edits) 11:45, January 17, 2025 (EST)

But "The" Waluigi's Japanese name Romanization it's the exact same. The identifier is kinda needed, anyway. Mariuigi Khed 16:58, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Not to pile on or anything but Maruigi is right. The katakana used for both names is the exact same which is what I poorly tried to explain in the proposal explanation. Also, if the Japanese name gets used, then there will not be a need for an identifier since you'd be typing different characters to get to the "KC Waluigi". Admittedly, an ambiguation page and some redirects should be added either way.-- Pizza Master 18:00, January 17, 2025 (EST)

But as I said before, the thing is that evil Luigi Waruīji doesn't have an official English name or romanization. LinkTheLefty already pointed out Mekakuppa as an example of this, who isn't called something like "Mechakoopa (Super Mario-kun)" despite its Japanese name being the exact same as Mechakoopa, because there's no English or Romanized name for Mekakuppa. "Mekakuppa" is the closest official name we have for this character, and the same goes for "Waruīji". rend (talk) (edits) 18:04, January 17, 2025 (EST)

But Mekakuppa's case is semi-different, since it's technically intended as "Mecha-Bowser", but that's not the point. We do directly... "translate" pre-existing names (see Jackie), despite never being an official Romanization for them, but since it derives from a English name... Or see Luigi Kong, and not "Ruīji Kongu". Granted... those ARE names we saw being officially Romanized left and right... but so we did with "Waluigi". Mariuigi Khed 18:31, January 17, 2025 (EST)

As a compromise, I've changed the proposal a bit.-- Pizza Master 18:48, January 17, 2025 (EST)

Split Warupīchi (KC Mario)

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Current time: Wednesday, January 29, 2025, 10:11 GMT

Same argument as my Warudeijī proposal. Using the identifier, (KC Mario), because Warupīchi also refers to a scrapped character from Mario Power Tennis.

Proposer: Pizza Master (talk)
Deadline: January 31, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Support (no identifier)

1. Pizza Master (talk) Per.
2. Mariuigi Khed (talk) Following the logic of Mr. X
3. LinkTheLefty (talk) Might as well go for the whole works even though we all know there'd be zero interest in splitting these if there wasn't already a Waluigi or planned Walpeach lol.
4. Rykitu (talk) Per all
5. Camwoodstock (talk) Per consistency. At this point, we're surprised the manga didn't have a joke where Wario possesses Mario to create, like, Wamario. We're learning some things about Wario's powers we didn't think we'd learn, these past few days.
6. SComic (talk) Per.

Comments

Actually, thinking about it: this doesn't need an identifier. The MPT's Warupeach is just Beta content, never released, therefore, not covered in her own page. Like we don't have a Mr. X, the ghost pirate Kremling, page, therefor his namesake from the Saturday Supercade doesn't need an identifier. Mariuigi Khed 18:38, January 17, 2025 (EST)

@Mariuigi Khed Removed identifier. You didn't need to change your vote, you could have just asked me to change the proposal.-- Pizza Master 18:53, January 17, 2025 (EST)